Mini Normal 2310 | Day 7

[Doctor Drew]

Y’all ain’t ready for this leaf flavored jelly

As long as you bring the beef, we cool

[Random Nurse]

VC 1.05

abnegation (1):

Abnegation

camelCasedSnivy (3):

davesaz, Klazam, Arko

geraintm (1):

KittyTacky

Scorpious (1):

geraintm

Klazam (3):

camelCasedSnivy, Hu Tao, Doctor Drew

Flavor Leaf (1):

Blackstar

Not voting (3):

Scorpious, SzmarzLeek, Flavor Leaf

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to eliminate someone. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-09-13 14:12:57).

If you notice the VC is wrong, please notify me. PM'ing works best, but I'll be screening posts frequently as well.

[Abnegation]

i may have a meta read on leek, but need to check a couple more games.
this post is mainly a note to self to do that tonight.

update: i never got around to this, will do tomorrow.

[KittyTacky]

I'm sleepy rn because I slept very poorly but I'll try to provide analysis in a bit.

[SzmarzLeek]

i may have a meta read on leek, but need to check a couple more games.
this post is mainly a note to self to do that tonight.

update: i never got around to this, will do tomorrow.

do I know you? I can't recall

[SzmarzLeek]

I only played with Camel and he feels towny-relaxed here, we'll see if he keeps that up

[camelCasedSnivy]

Spoiler:

i wont

[BlackStar]

Lol black star is town

[quote=Abnegation post_id=13895959 post_num=145 time=<a href="tel:1693610116" style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">1693610116</a> user_id=36901]
[quote=BlackStar post_id=13895801 post_num=142 time=<a href="tel:1693608610" style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">1693608610</a> user_id=26973]
[quote=Abnegation post_id=13895753 post_num=140 time=<a href="tel:1693608143" style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">1693608143</a> user_id=36901]
[quote=BlackStar post_id=13895690 post_num=139 time=<a href="tel:1693607479" style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">1693607479</a> user_id=26973]
It just seems like all of their posts are joking around instead of trying to do something

what are you trying to do with the vote? do you actually find that scum-indicative or is it more of a pressure vote to try to get them to do something?
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I think it's scum indicative
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i will have to disagree with you on that.
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Me too
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It’s just a feeling

[BlackStar]

Damn, I messed up the quoting bad lol

[BlackStar]

This is what I meant to say

It just seems like all of their posts are joking around instead of trying to do something

what are you trying to do with the vote? do you actually find that scum-indicative or is it more of a pressure vote to try to get them to do something?

I think it's scum indicative

i will have to disagree with you on that.

Me too

It’s just a feeling

[Klazam]

Hah alright.

Hu tao - I dropped that angle because i felt your approach (kinda aggressively refusing to vote) indicated that its a personality thing not a scum thing.

Im still cool with my vote where it is.

RE: self voting, its usually more scummy than not, reads to me as an appeal to emotion.

I have no idea how to read flavor leaf here

Dave im on the fence about.

[Random Nurse]

Scorpious has been prodded.

[davesaz]

I can think of at least three ways for Flavor Leaf to be this way, one each town, scum, and NAI. The town and NAI ones shouldn't be discussed and can't be discussed respectively.
Reserved FL isn't something I see too often, though as I mentioned before it's been quite a while. If I had to guess I'd say it's the NAI version.

Hu and Klaz feel like they're solving, and townleans. If I had to pick one of them to be a scumlean it would be Hu but that's primarily driven by a feeling that voting is the main way of generating conflict to get reads from, which makes me biased against not voting.

I don't see the purpose for Abnegation to still be self voting. It's still the first 1/4 of day so being on the sidelines isn't urgent yet, but it isn't doing anything to advance the game and that's troubling.

[davesaz]

Leek is pretty devoid of content, how did you manage to get double digit posts and hardly say anything?

[Abnegation]

i may have a meta read on leek, but need to check a couple more games.
this post is mainly a note to self to do that tonight.

update: i never got around to this, will do tomorrow.

do I know you? I can't recall

not really. i modded newbie 2125 on my main account, but we haven't played together.
i opened up your iso this game and 67 struck me as a little odd in comparison to the rest of it. you said you like hu tao for pushing the game forward and saying what they don't like instead of fluffposting, but i don't see you doing much of that yourself. you've got a couple of one-liner townreads, a couple of fluffposts, and a few clarifying questions that don't really lead much of anywhere. if i look back to newbie 2125 (iso link), there was more analyzing and pushing people and using your vote in the initial pages. it was pretty clear that you were trying to get reads on every slot. i'm not seeing that from you here. i had a look at the beginning of newbie 2122 as well, and it also seems quite different from this game. for some reason i thought you had more games than that but it seems that's it.
i realize this might seem contradictory with my blackstar interaction (namely 145), so i'll just clarify now. i don't find low-content posting scummy by itself. it's the context of the posting that's pinging me in this situation.

[Abnegation]

Leek is pretty devoid of content, how did you manage to get double digit posts and hardly say anything?

i think you will like 164 then.

[davesaz]

Kitty also isn't saying much. Hope you can engage after getting some rest.

[Abnegation]

I don't see the purpose for Abnegation to still be self voting. It's still the first 1/4 of day so being on the sidelines isn't urgent yet, but it isn't doing anything to advance the game and that's troubling.

now that i have a lead, i can vote. i was occupied with marathon all afternoon so couldn't get to it then.
admittedly not the strongest read in the world but worth pursuing, methinks.

VOTE: szmarzleek

[KittyTacky]

I think camel is town.

Abnegation is town, let's be honest it's fine if RVS votes stay until page 7.

Now that the leek thing is pointed out my tentative TR on him has crumbled. If I vote soon then I'm voting there.

Klaz also town imo.

[Abnegation]

I think camel is town.

Abnegation is town, let's be honest it's fine if RVS votes stay until page 7.

Now that the leek thing is pointed out my tentative TR on him has crumbled. If I vote soon then I'm voting there.

Klaz also town imo.

i don't think you ever mentioned townreading leek?

[Abnegation]

actually that might be a townslip.

[Hu Tao]

I can think of at least three ways for Flavor Leaf to be this way, one each town, scum, and NAI. The town and NAI ones shouldn't be discussed and can't be discussed respectively.
Reserved FL isn't something I see too often, though as I mentioned before it's been quite a while. If I had to guess I'd say it's the NAI version.

Hu and Klaz feel like they're solving, and townleans. If I had to pick one of them to be a scumlean it would be Hu but that's primarily driven by a feeling that voting is the main way of generating conflict to get reads from, which makes me biased against not voting.

I don't see the purpose for Abnegation to still be self voting. It's still the first 1/4 of day so being on the sidelines isn't urgent yet, but it isn't doing anything to advance the game and that's troubling.

So your analysis is that FL posting is either Town, scum or NAI? Groundbreaking.. this post feels like filler. And your reason for your possible scumlean is basically what klazam said

[Hu Tao]

I think camel is town.

Abnegation is town, let's be honest it's fine if RVS votes stay until page 7.

Now that the leek thing is pointed out my tentative TR on him has crumbled. If I vote soon then I'm voting there.

Klaz also town imo.

Why is klaz and camel town?

[Hu Tao]

actually that might be a townslip.

How?

[Abnegation]

actually that might be a townslip.

How?

it points towards kitty having a real read on leek that they just didn't post for whatever reason, as opposed to making up a townread "crumbling" when they'd never even mentioned one.