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[petapan]

Vote Count 2.02

You've got a friend in me
You've got a friend in me

Shadi1337 (3):

superbowl9, Aristeia, meowmeow

superbowl9 (2):

Doctor Drew, Save The Dragons

Not Voting (6):

Bell, Dunnstral, Malakittens, Shadi1337, sheepsaysmeep, yekaterina

With 11 alive, it's 6 to eliminate.

Deadline for Day 2 is August 31 at 8:00 PM EST.

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(expired on 2023-08-31 20:00:00)

[sheepsaysmeep]

VOTE: superbowl

tied wagons how exciting

[Shadi1337]

Pls be helpful if you're town

it's possible to push other things while parking the vote

i mean i hardly think shadi would be hyperposting if he was town here; i doubt his actual activity patterns are ai

i do get the vibe his posting towards the end of the day felt more, idk, safe and passive? which is what i was referring to

i usually post a lot on both alignments but i'm not entirely sure why i haven't felt this game.
if there was some good excuse/reason i'd be happy coz i could at least just say that
this post amount is very unusual for me .. maybe i am just feeling a burnout

I'm gonna go through players now, for reasons i dont wanna disclose im just gonna go with alignments over whether they could be masons or not
i had hoped dats would be scum coz it would be a lot easier to see how people acted around him (or her idk)
also the list may not make sense number wise as idk if it's gonna end up with 1 or 7 scum - take it or leave it xD


1. Datisi
ded

2. Bell
bell is prolly one of the players i'm most alerted by
there seems to be a lot of posting just to gain a presence, but a lot of it is fluff, it could be more confident town
but from experience when they're longer posts it's usually scum trying to blend in

there's something about the tones in posts like #139 and #140 where the tone just feels shoehorned.

#404 also feels like "look at me im doing town stuff, for town reasons"

that being said some credit is deserved once in a while, #539 feels decent for instance it's just not consistent enough he has posts like those

and imo his iso continues like this same vibe for the remainder of D1

he does seem more relaxed/natural start D2 tho except maybe the very opening post?
he did seem kinda awkward around bulge i did think maybe him and bulge could be possible

the swap from bell on bulge being the hardest read almost felt programmed


3. Malakittens

it's hard to make a lot of their iso
but if you check their iso their general vibe doesn't seem to give a shit about what people think of them
probably means chances of being town are at least slightly higher than scum
altho i don't remember if anybody pushed mala? some colours only show after a push (you may ask how am i reading iso and then also not remember,
well if anybody did push mala then mala has been ignoring it in their iso more or less lmao)


4. Aristeia
ari's analysis on bell #389 and #390 makes me feel like she could be town
chances it's opportunistic scum trying to start something at that point of the game seems a bit low to me that coupled with the fact i can see
what she's saying makes me get a good feel here
i also think her pushes/information extraction remains focused and it actually feels like she's trying to draw info
out of the pushes rather than just push for the sake of it
her questions are concise and not misleading

prolly dumb to say but i also think her jokes seem naturally confident. doesn't feel awkward/overcompensating, i know it's a weird thing to read into



5. sheepsaysmeep**
i think sheep is being odd, it's not a super strong but it's still bugging me
he seems weirdly detached compared to the other game i had with him
his two decent reads were me and meow, and the one on me was mostly just based on meta rather than really looking into it
i do think sheep would prolly be more inclined to try more if he had a team he could communicate tho that's why the
read isn't very strong but it's still leaning scum and considering how weak most of my reads are then yeah

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i kinda don't wanna do the next two but idt i can ignore reading them past D1

6. meowmeow
some of meow's posts kinda bothered me but as the game went on they look better imo
i can't quite explain why i struggle to read
one post that stands out is obv their read list #545
i don't particularly find the post impressive but there's nothing that says scum particularly in it
plus i think it came at a time where it wasn't prompted or pushed, yet the timing was natural/called for


ok maybe once i actually tried to focus reading meow wasn't that confusing lmao
i guess slight TL (?)

7. yekaterina
oh god why is there two pages here, chill homie
imo a lot of her early posts seemed towny, and i kinda stopped reading into her posts later coz they confused me
but the wya her thoughts progress kinda felt like it had to come from someone genuinely pondering about things and
how the thoughts go from A to B doesn't seem disengenious. i can see myself confbiasing this
i'm prolly gonna cherry pick hardcore here

yeah, it stayed consistent i cba pickign out too many posts but like
the amount of pondering and what ifs that go into for instance #811 without seemingly any visible vicious agenda just feels rly towny/pure to me


8. Dunnstral
looking at dunnstral D1 there is nothing that stands out in terms of trying to help the game along
the questions don't really seem to be helping
one i kinda liked was the vote on mala #473, it seemed like the game state seemed boring/unrevealing to dunnstral prolly
sometimes it's about changing the status quo/push new ppl for new results

their thinking D2 seems more focused, more or less i feel like maybe dunnstral is just in similar shoes to my own lol
prolly just gonna be my first null for now

9. Doctor Drew*
#620 is quite towny
but the rest of the posts don't up until then don't seem TOO helpful, just quick on the trigger/short
whereas they got more analytical later
i'm not sure his progression on superbowl feels too normal? at some point the read shifted really hard and later
on he's talking about how obv scum he is etc while yes he did seem to think superbowl was scum D1, considering how strongly he's trying to advocate
bowl now i think this should be kinda looked into
maybe slightly scummy?


10. superbowl9
imo reading into superbowl feels kinda awkward
i wasn't that bothered D1 even tho a few bits felt weird (maybe biased but a lot towards me)
he seems to think drew might be it, or at least is reaction testing him but not much comes out of the votes/words
then despite acknowleding he thinks voting me is tooth-pully, he himself votes and "easily" takes the vote off of me
then seems to go for the "easier" option dats (?)
then does a hard shift again D2 early, i'd say it's dodgy and it's generally weird to follow thought process
now again, despite sounding mostly sure on drew, he still thinks he should go on me now?

11. The Bulge
ded


12. Save The Dragons*
kinda too little for me to go on, it's gonna sound dumb af but i do like how he votes without giving a fk about explaining
esp when he did it coupled with vla
i'm definitely interested in trying to get more out of him this round


also clarification about pronouns
i'm not so good at remembering people's pronouns so pls feel free to correct me if anybody feels mis-mentioned in any way

[Shadi1337]

hmmm i knda wanted to hear more from save the dragons but imo these wagons are prolly not gonna yield that much, maybe biased to say as one is me but they've both been tried
is there anyone else anyone is willing to throw some questions towards? except yeka i like yeka

[Bell]

Well of course it’s fluff.
I’m a dog you know.

[Bell]

Why don’t you just ask questions of people.
What is it with people demanding other people ask questions for them. Are you some kind of aristocrat?

[Bell]

Why do you like it when people don’t explain things while simultaneously asking people to ask questions of other people which, presumably, would involve them explaining themselves. *psyduck*

[Dunnstral]

I put forward the notion that The Bulge dying is significant info. Mafia would have been trying to eliminate a mason, and would have used The Bulge's posts to make a judgement call on them. They wouldn't have thought The Bulge could be a mason based on how The Bulge interacted with mafia.

maybe? but personally i feel like they might just target people who are widely townread as masons, rather than specifically trying to find potential mason interactions

Who was expressing a townread on The Bulge yesterday?

Going off of your theory, those people are more likely to be town, as I doubt mafia kill someone only they are townreading.

[superbowl9]

Okay facts: shadi was not limmed. Shadi is not townread (by anyone I'm pretty sure?). "We" as in the collective of the players in the game had a wagon on him, it fell apart, and then it came back for like 10 mins at deadline and died.

If you're saying sentiment was Datisti>superbowl>shadi okay fine I wasnt there at deadline but I didn't see "what about shadi" besides the brief interaction I mentioned (which pinged as not enough for someone who was/is widely scumread). So this is "What about shadi". Does that make sense?

that wasn't the sentiment though, sentiment was superbowl9>shadi1337>datisi and the wagon was still shifted to datisi

so i would think it would be noteworthy to you that you were not eliminated, not solely that shadi1337 wasn't considered if you are town, ya know?

Exactly Exactly Exactly

Idk about your game feel but I thought people were thinking better of me after the whole ari townread thing died off and I was liveposting. If you think I'm scum then who do you think organized the move off me, past shadi and onto datisti?

[superbowl9]

I forgot about the conversation

I guess I really just wanted to yeet superbowl but nobody wanted to so I gave up

... I thought it was my powers of charm and rhetoric

[Dunnstral]

Shadi I am hesitant to push anybody for having a hard change in opinions. Do remember that there are masons and a conversation in a PT could lead to what you are describing.

[superbowl9]

@shadi who would you kill today

[Malakittens]

Oops sorry

So I was right on datisi even tho my read on him was very week.
I’m actually saddened that datisi got limmed even tho I thought he was weak town :/

I kinda wanna say that ari is town tbh
I’m still sticking with my bell townread
Bulge feels town as well.

Yek might be my other weak townread

I’m ok to lim between {drew, Shari & meowy}

[Aristeia]

Bulge feels town as well.

I think you might be right tbh

[Aristeia]

I forgot about the conversation

I guess I really just wanted to yeet superbowl but nobody wanted to so I gave up

... I thought it was my powers of charm and rhetoric

it could be I am weak to charming men

[Doctor Drew]

@Drew, if SB flips town will you let me lim you afterward?

If you want me limmed why not just vote me now? This kinda reads that you know Superbowl will flip town and want to string together mis lims.

And yes I know the possibility they could be masons, but why sacrifice who you know who is town if you are town?

[Aristeia]

VOTE: superbowl

[Aristeia]

e-2

drew do you think superbowl is going to flip town?

[Doctor Drew]

e-2

drew do you think superbowl is going to flip town?

No, I just don't understand the motivation of Bell's post that I quoted because I can't think of a town motivation.

Read it awhile ago, but only now have some time for mafia heh.

[Aristeia]

I would guess he's trying to measure how much conviction you have that superbowl is actually going to flip mafia

[Doctor Drew]

I would guess he's trying to measure how much conviction you have that superbowl is actually going to flip mafia

Are you certain Bell has town intentions?

[Dunnstral]

How much of day 2 have you read, Malakittens?

[Bell]

Yes, absolutely, I’m lining up eliminations.

[Aristeia]

I would guess he's trying to measure how much conviction you have that superbowl is actually going to flip mafia

Are you certain Bell has town intentions?

it is a guess

[Bell]

Aris is pretty close, I’m that plus seeing how you react to a game of chicken. So, you’re not confident you’re just mostly confident. While presenting yourself as supremely confident.