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Post Post #4750 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:00 am

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Actually u know that. Let's just end this game.
It's Dunn/Aisa. Has to be. The no kill spews Fire as town.

VOTE: Aisa
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Post Post #4751 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:11 am

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I have put this in a quote to hopefully help MafSilver visibility wrote:
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Aisa (1):
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Not Voting (5):
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Post Post #4752 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:11 am

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Mufufu, you two thought your little no killing scheme would allow you the room to mislim a town player. But you failed to take into account the untold brilliance of i, the greatest detective. Whom have already counter-schemed all of the plans you've thought up overnight.

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Post Post #4753 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:25 am

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So scum no kill to ensure i wouldn't die
i guarded norwee last night
thought i could get scum to think i wouldn't target norwee by saying he wasn't worthy of protection but then they just go no kill.

Looks like they didn't want to take a 50/50.

Anyways Nurse flip all but confirms Aisa isn't miller. 100% scum were informed of amount of millers and tried to hide in them.

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his first post in the scum PT was "yes I rolled scum!"
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Post Post #4754 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:27 am

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In post 4750, NorwegianboyEE wrote: Actually u know that. Let's just end this game.
It's Dunn/Aisa. Has to be. The no kill spews Fire as town.

VOTE: Aisa
only norwee needs night actions to read me smh
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #4755 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:28 am

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You are a scummy dog.
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Post Post #4756 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:29 am

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ill take that as a compliment
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Post Post #4757 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:34 am

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Actually i thought ur interaction with me earlier when i tried to bait you was genuine so i kinda started believing you were town from that point on.
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Post Post #4758 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:36 am

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So like.
If Fire is town then it can ONLY be Aisa/Dunn

It's checkmate for the scumbutts.
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Post Post #4759 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:06 am

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In post 4750, NorwegianboyEE wrote: Actually u know that. Let's just end this game.
It's Dunn/Aisa. Has to be. The no kill spews Fire as town.

VOTE: Aisa
Aaaah backstabbed :’D
In post 4753, Firebringer wrote: So scum no kill to ensure i wouldn't die
i guarded norwee last night
thought i could get scum to think i wouldn't target norwee by saying he wasn't worthy of protection but then they just go no kill.

Looks like they didn't want to take a 50/50.

Anyways Nurse flip all but confirms Aisa isn't miller. 100% scum were informed of amount of millers and tried to hide in them.

VOTE: Aisa
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Post Post #4760 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:17 am

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Very serious rabbit.
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Post Post #4761 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:32 am

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@mods:
how many votes are required to end the day with no elimination?
What happens if there are several no eliminations and no kills in a row?
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Post Post #4762 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:57 am

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Ok, it's always tricky to know what to say to someone who's voting you.

It seems like one of the reasons you're voting me, Norwee, is because of the no kill. I'm not sure how that spews me or anyone scum.

Let's consider a world in which Fire and Titus are scum. What do you think is better for them - no killing, or killing? If they kill you or Hu Tao, maybe the credibility of FB's claim is called into question. If they no kill, the credibility of FB's claim is not called into question. I guess the downside of leaving you alive is that you seemed more aligned with me and Dunn yesterday. But importantly, killing you or Hu Tao is not
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the right choice for an FB+Titus team. It immediately puts the spotlight on FB. It results in nothing near a guaranteed victory for them.

From a different perspective - I've seen different scum players play ELOs differently and probably so have you. Some kill the "obvious" townie - the one who's had a correct solve for 4 game days. Some make the "WIFOM" kill: they leave their worst enemy alive and then try to argue that then never would have left X alive etc etc. This is why earlier I said that I think NKA is wifom. I've seen both sides of the coin play out, so I don't think the night kill / lack of one is a reliable indicator in situations like these.
In post 4757, NorwegianboyEE wrote: Actually i thought ur interaction with me earlier when i tried to bait you was genuine so i kinda started believing you were town from that point on.
I'm also not sure / don't remember what you're referring to, but if you point it out I can try to address this too!
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Post Post #4763 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 9:01 am

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I didn't say the no kill spewed you scum, i said it spewed Fire town.
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Post Post #4764 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 9:06 am

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Also do you think Dunn is town?
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Post Post #4765 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 9:16 am

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In post 4763, NorwegianboyEE wrote: I didn't say the no kill spewed you scum, i said it spewed Fire town.
You also said the words "if fire is town it can ONLY be Aisa and Dunn scum", and you're currently voting me. If you're not sure I'm scum, then you're risking a quickhammer.
In post 4764, NorwegianboyEE wrote: Also do you think Dunn is town?
That is where I'm leaning. I'm not sure but I'm not certainly gonna start arguing for you to vote him instead because I'm not sure that would help haha
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Post Post #4766 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 9:27 am

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I think we still no eliminate here still despite agreeing. To confirm, I have a question.

Mod: How would you resolve it if town no limmed and then scum no killed?
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Post Post #4767 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 9:29 am

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In post 4760, NorwegianboyEE wrote: Very serious rabbit.
I am glad you agree but let's go step by step. I feel better about Dunn being scum. Let's not rush.
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Post Post #4768 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 9:31 am

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In post 4753, Firebringer wrote: So scum no kill to ensure i wouldn't die
i guarded norwee last night
thought i could get scum to think i wouldn't target norwee by saying he wasn't worthy of protection but then they just go no kill.

Looks like they didn't want to take a 50/50.

Anyways Nurse flip all but confirms Aisa isn't miller. 100% scum were informed of amount of millers and tried to hide in them.

VOTE: Aisa
I disagree with your reasoning about the Nurse flip (lol).

1. We do not know what scum were informed of. I guess the fact they were informed of the Millers is credible, but still, uncertainty n all that. I remember that a very wise you once said to me and others to not solve games from mechanics. At least I think that was you. Oh how the tables have turned :D

2. More importantly... the fact scum were informed of the presence of millers does not in any way prove that someone in the scumteam must have fakeclaimed miller.

I, uh, may be sliightly leaning towards thinking that this is just the excuse FB came up with to be able to hop on my wagon

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Post Post #4769 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 9:34 am

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In post 4766, Titus wrote: I think we still no eliminate here still despite agreeing. To confirm, I have a question.

Mod: How would you resolve it if town no limmed and then scum no killed?
Eh ok i guess.
VOTE: No Elimination
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Post Post #4770 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 9:36 am

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If scum no kills another time then let's just kill Aisa.
All in agreement?
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Post Post #4771 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 9:49 am

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In post 4761, Aisa wrote:
@mods:
how many votes are required to end the day with no elimination?
What happens if there are several no eliminations and no kills in a row?
In post 4766, Titus wrote: I think we still no eliminate here still despite agreeing. To confirm, I have a question.

Mod: How would you resolve it if town no limmed and then scum no killed?
No elimination requires at least 50% of living players to vote. In this case, that's three.

If there are four complete cycles with no deaths, I will end the game in a draw, with both teams considered losing. There are otherwise no restrictions on no kills/no eliminations.
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Post Post #4772 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 9:52 am

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So we are unfortunately in the situation where we have to vote first.

VOTE: Dunn
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Post Post #4773 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:02 am

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In post 4765, Aisa wrote: You also said the words "if fire is town it can ONLY be Aisa and Dunn scum", and you're currently voting me. If you're not sure I'm scum, then you're risking a quickhammer.
There is no risk of a quickhammer
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown
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Post Post #4774 (ISO) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 10:03 am

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In post 4772, Titus wrote: So we are unfortunately in the situation where we have to vote first.

VOTE: Dunn
Also a good vote
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His first post in the main thread was "yes I rolled scum!" -popsofctown

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