Veiled Committee Mafia: List Mods Edition [game over]

[camelCasedSnivy]

2000 is mine

[camelCasedSnivy]

oh hi deltabreedy

[Ranger]

it is limited to 3 shots but its not in the name

This tracks with being in my role group. My entire role is one word, with all the powers, limitations, restrictions, etc. within. Modify 1997 with this. (The full list will reflect this.)

[Ircher]

votecount 1.15

it's been two nights in a row that i've had to fully change shirts after i was done exercising because i was sweaty. is this just because it's so hot, or a result of me exercising really good? i honestly have no idea. i'm gonna have so much laundry to do. y'know, in past games, i've used this flavor text area for a lot more just little quotes and references and what have you, and that's not to say i haven't done any of those this time around, but i'm really using it as more of a journal. hope you're enjoying it if you're reading it!

4 players voting for Cook (Ircher, Ranger, camelCasedSnivy, Ircher)
3 players voting for camelCasedSnivy (Political Clout, Cook, DragonEater70)
2 players voting for Aureal (DkKoba, Bingle)
2 players voting for DragonEater70 (Aureal, KatyKimFanClub)
1 player voting for Theta Alpine (Deltabreedy)
1 player voting for Political Clout (AniX)

5 players not voting (Alisae, Random Nurse, Theta Alpine, Save The Dragons, Skygazer)

with 17 votes, it takes 9 to eliminate.

mod notes: Doctor Drew is replaced by Deltabreedy! still looking for an Alisae replacement.

I'm listed as voting for Cook twice. To my knowledge, I am not a doublevoter.

[Ranger]

My role is town sensitive tracker.

Still working on the full breakdown; so far this gives me four, speculative, groups.

nonstandard role with modifier group?

Theta Alpine:

Desperate Treevivor Doomer - Temporary treestump of those investigating as a different alignment to her, must be used within 24 hours of the player's death.
Speculation, nonstandard roles with modifiers paired together.

Skygazer:

Compulsive Loan Shark - Gives people control of vote on even days. Takes control of actions of the player on the following night.
Speculation, nonstandard roles with modifiers paired together.

nonstandard modifier standard role group?

Doctor Drew:

Eternal Universal Backup - inherits the role of the last town player to die, continuously.
Bit speculative here, I think the standard roles with nonstandard modifiers are a group.

Political Clout:

Sensitive(can't act night after targeting different alignment) Tracker.
Bit speculative here, I think the standard roles with nonstandard modifiers are a group.

Bingle:

Immune townie - can't be altered in any way/shape/form, can choose between bp or ascetic.
Might be part of my speculative "nonstandard modifier, standard role" group, with the modifier being the entire role for Bingle.

PenguinPower?

Save The Dragons:

Hotelier - Neighborizes two players, but only for that night. (This is PenguinPower's, presumably. The listmod needed awareness of Community Redux.)
Speculation; given the similarity between Aureal's claim and the Hotelier(which actually

was

a cult), this is probably the same group of roles.

AniX:

Restricted Joat of some kind. Three 1x abilities triggered upon performing certain actions or lack thereof during the day. Delayer (not voting restriction), tracker (vote crazy), vig (tunnel vote).
Presumably, paired with Aureal's group. Speculation; given the similarity between Aureal's claim and the cult-Hotelier, if AniX is also in the group, these three would all be together.

Aureal:

Amway Seller? (Basically a cult without the alignment.) Opens neighborhood with people, who then get to accept, requires a sales pitch (dayplay-related). People in neighborhood gain access to all abilities within, more people = more abilities available. However, people within can't use powers beyond the set offered while within, and must use a night action to leave. One of the powers is a neighborizer, which spreads the powers. Powers:1 in, message; 3 in, neighborhood; 6 in, roleblock + auto-recruit; 10 in, vig. (Being honest, I really don't wrap my head around Aureal's claim. I think the grouping's accurate spec though.)
Presumably, paired with AniX's group. Speculation; given the similarity between this role and the Hotelier cult role, they are presumably in the same role group.

Implosion?

(possible epicmafia player, implosion was an em player)

Ranger:

Passifizer - Disables passives/modifiers for that night and following day, becomes miller during night when using.
I suspect I'm in the {Cook, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub} group by the similar role naming scheme.

Cook:

Modifier - gives random negative utility to target.
(I suspect is in my role group. I believe my group, by the role names as a clue, is {Ranger, Cook, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub}.)

camelCasedSnivy:

Baker - gives out goods which can self-roleblock when eaten, baked goods can be passed on, can only be used three times.
(I suspect is in my role group. I believe my group, by the role names as a clue, is {Ranger, Cook, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub}.)

KatyKimFanClub:

Revealer - reveals a random player's role if killed. (Sounds like what some call the Oracle role.)
(Might be in my role group? I believe my group, by the role names as a clue, is {Ranger, Cook, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub}.)

[xyzzy]

votecount 1.15

it's been two nights in a row that i've had to fully change shirts after i was done exercising because i was sweaty. is this just because it's so hot, or a result of me exercising really good? i honestly have no idea. i'm gonna have so much laundry to do. y'know, in past games, i've used this flavor text area for a lot more just little quotes and references and what have you, and that's not to say i haven't done any of those this time around, but i'm really using it as more of a journal. hope you're enjoying it if you're reading it!

4 players voting for Cook (Ircher, Ranger, camelCasedSnivy, Ircher)
3 players voting for camelCasedSnivy (Political Clout, Cook, DragonEater70)
2 players voting for Aureal (DkKoba, Bingle)
2 players voting for DragonEater70 (Aureal, KatyKimFanClub)
1 player voting for Theta Alpine (Deltabreedy)
1 player voting for Political Clout (AniX)

5 players not voting (Alisae, Random Nurse, Theta Alpine, Save The Dragons, Skygazer)

with 17 votes, it takes 9 to eliminate.

mod notes: Doctor Drew is replaced by Deltabreedy! still looking for an Alisae replacement.

I'm listed as voting for Cook twice. To my knowledge, I am not a doublevoter.

fixed!

[Cook]

i'm a little confused by something, ranger

how does your role neatly fit in and boost the power of an entirely separate role bucket?

[Cook]

yknow, assuming that you're in the rolebucket you claim to be in

[Cook]

you opened with a miller claim (something that it seems that you've done in the past) and then don't claim until

after

everyone else has claimed and then your role fits with one bucket and augments the powers of another

[Ranger]

town temporary death miller

That's actually huge, imo, as if my speculation is correct...that gives a second complete group of four.
While 5/24 roles weren't used, any group of four must contain scum.

nonstandard role with modifier group?

-

2/4 names

Theta Alpine:

Desperate Treevivor Doomer - Temporary treestump of those investigating as a different alignment to her, must be used within 24 hours of the player's death.
Speculation, nonstandard roles with modifiers paired together.

Skygazer:

Compulsive Loan Shark - Gives people control of vote on even days. Takes control of actions of the player on the following night.
Speculation, nonstandard roles with modifiers paired together.

PenguinPower?

-

3/4 names

Save The Dragons:

Hotelier - Neighborizes two players, but only for that night. (This is PenguinPower's, presumably. The listmod needed awareness of Community Redux.)
Speculation; given the similarity between Aureal's claim and the Hotelier(which actually

was

a cult), this is probably the same group of roles.

AniX:

Restricted Joat of some kind. Three 1x abilities triggered upon performing certain actions or lack thereof during the day. Delayer (not voting restriction), tracker (vote crazy), vig (tunnel vote).
Presumably, paired with Aureal's group. Speculation; given the similarity between Aureal's claim and the cult-Hotelier, if AniX is also in the group, these three would all be together.

Aureal:

Amway Seller? (Basically a cult without the alignment.) Opens neighborhood with people, who then get to accept, requires a sales pitch (dayplay-related). People in neighborhood gain access to all abilities within, more people = more abilities available. However, people within can't use powers beyond the set offered while within, and must use a night action to leave. One of the powers is a neighborizer, which spreads the powers. Powers:1 in, message; 3 in, neighborhood; 6 in, roleblock + auto-recruit; 10 in, vig. (Being honest, I really don't wrap my head around Aureal's claim. I think the grouping's accurate spec though.)
Presumably, paired with AniX's group. Speculation; given the similarity between this role and the Hotelier cult role, they are presumably in the same role group.

nonstandard modifier standard role group?

-

4/4 names;

must contain scum

Doctor Drew:

Eternal Universal Backup - inherits the role of the last town player to die, continuously.
Bit speculative here, I think the standard roles with nonstandard modifiers are a group.

DKKoba:

Temporary Death Miller - flips as random scum role in the game until that role dies.
Bit speculative here, I think the standard roles with nonstandard modifiers are a group. The mechanics of the Death Miller are slightly unusual, in a way similar to the mechanics of the Universal Backup.

Political Clout:

Sensitive Tracker - can't act night after targeting different alignment.
Bit speculative here, I think the standard roles with nonstandard modifiers are a group.

Bingle:

Immune townie - can't be altered in any way/shape/form, can choose between bp or ascetic.
Might be part of my speculative "nonstandard modifier, standard role" group, with the modifier being the entire role for Bingle.

In this group, HURT: Doctor Drew

Implosion?

-

4/4 names;

must contain scum

(possible epicmafia player, implosion was an EM player)

Ranger:

Passifizer - Disables passives/modifiers for that night and following day, becomes miller during night when using.
I suspect I'm in the {Cook, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub} group by the similar role naming scheme.

Cook:

Modifier - gives random negative utility to target.
(I suspect is in my role group. I believe my group, by the role names as a clue, is {Ranger, Cook, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub}.)

camelCasedSnivy:

Baker - gives out goods which can self-roleblock when eaten, baked goods can be passed on, can only be used three times.
(I suspect is in my role group. I believe my group, by the role names as a clue, is {Ranger, Cook, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub}.)

KatyKimFanClub:

Revealer - reveals a random player's role if killed. (Sounds like what some call the Oracle role.)
(Might be in my role group? I believe my group, by the role names as a clue, is {Ranger, Cook, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub}.)

In this group, HURT: Cook

[Ranger]

how does your role neatly fit in and boost the power of an entirely separate role bucket?

Coincidence.

I'm part of the single-word-role-title bracket. Discussing the structure has been ruled illegal; still, the formatting within is obvious to all who have it. Modifiers, restrictions, etc., all not listed in the role name, instead laid out in the details of the role PM. (This should be legal to state as sharing role names is legal, and it follows any modifiers not included in the role title must by proxy be within the role itself.)

There are four, and precisely four, role PMs with this structure. Yours among them.

I believe these roles are all reminiscent of EpicMafia roles.

[Ranger]

you opened with a miller claim (something that it seems that you've done in the past) and then don't claim until

after

everyone else has claimed and then your role fits with one bucket and augments the powers of another

Nice try.

Sadly, you're missing critical facts. I've not claimed miller in any past game. I breadcrumbed my role heavily as well. I might not have

shared

these breadcrumbs; they're very obvious when you search. I was on a lookout specifically for negative utility roles to remove their negative utility.

[Ranger]

we have seen evidence to suggest there are some themes going on

Nearly complete on my end, I only need to finish Random Nurse/DragonEater70 claims and see if I can spot a pattern in them compared to the existing groups and Ircher/Alisae.

Given setup math, it's rather likely the remainder don't fit into the existing pattern and are either parts of new patterns or solo. (I'll explain this when giving the full. Essentially, every group of 4 confirmed present reduces the number in other groups by proxy. Since we have at least two full groups of four, we similarly have multiple groups which will be largely unused and empty.)

[Ranger]

personally id like groupings to see how it may differ from mine, but thats selfish and ill let others choose

I'm liking mine. I've placed Random Nurse tentatively, which leaves only Ircher, Alisae, and DragonEater70 unplaced. I'll post once I get to reading DE70's claim.

[Ranger]

Why not full claim?

Speaking of, Ircher, I've got some question marks on your claim; can you clarify your role more specifically?

[Ranger]

REMINDER:
6 listmods submitted 4 roles each: 3 town, 1 scum.
Of those 24 roles, only 17 were used.
There should be six groups of roles in total, with seven roles randomly subtracted from them.
This means there's

theoretically

enough for one group to be entirely absent, and one group to only have a single role. This is the most extreme and would leave the other four groups full at 4/4.
More realistically, most groups should have ~3. However, any group with 4/4 guarantees netting scum. (Every group of 4 increases the odds of other groups being smaller.)

Group 6 -

Leftovers2

-

Alisae:

1x ignite arsonist - can mark one person per night up to two, can ignite once in game killing marked targets.
I don't know, tbh. Arsonist is a standard role, and it has a standard modifier. Nobody else has this.

Group 5 -

Leftovers

-

Ircher:

Day-Neighborizer, loses vote on following day.
Educated guess: there's only six groups, these roles don't fit in the below, but don't match with Alisae's.

DragonEater70:

Cop who loses role when town is eliminated.
Educated guess: there's only six groups, these roles don't fit in the below, but don't match with Alisae's.

Group 4 -

nonstandard role with modifier group?

-

3/4 names

Theta Alpine:

Desperate Treevivor Doomer - Temporary treestump of those investigating as a different alignment to her, must be used within 24 hours of the player's death.
Speculation, nonstandard roles with modifiers paired together.

Skygazer:

Compulsive Loan Shark - Gives people control of vote on even days. Takes control of actions of the player on the following night.
Speculation, nonstandard roles with modifiers paired together.

Random Nurse:

Non-Consecutive Enforcer - rolestopper for everything except nightkills.
Speculation, nonstandard roles with modifiers paired together.

Group 3 -

PenguinPower?

-

3/4 names

Save The Dragons:

Hotelier - Neighborizes two players, but only for that night. (This is PenguinPower's, presumably. The listmod needed awareness of Community Redux.)
Speculation; given the similarity between Aureal's claim and the Hotelier(which actually

was

a cult), this is probably the same group of roles.

AniX:

Restricted Joat of some kind. Three 1x abilities triggered upon performing certain actions or lack thereof during the day. Delayer (not voting restriction), tracker (vote crazy), vig (tunnel vote).
Presumably, paired with Aureal's group. Speculation; given the similarity between Aureal's claim and the cult-Hotelier, if AniX is also in the group, these three would all be together.

Aureal:

Amway Seller? (Basically a cult without the alignment.) Opens neighborhood with people, who then get to accept, requires a sales pitch (dayplay-related). People in neighborhood gain access to all abilities within, more people = more abilities available. However, people within can't use powers beyond the set offered while within, and must use a night action to leave. One of the powers is a neighborizer, which spreads the powers. Powers:1 in, message; 3 in, neighborhood; 6 in, roleblock + auto-recruit; 10 in, vig. (Being honest, I really don't wrap my head around Aureal's claim. I think the grouping's accurate spec though.)
Presumably, paired with AniX's group. Speculation; given the similarity between this role and the Hotelier cult role, they are presumably in the same role group.

Group 2 -

nonstandard modifier standard role group?

-

4/4 names;

must contain scum

Doctor Drew:

Eternal Universal Backup - inherits the role of the last town player to die, continuously.
Bit speculative here, I think the standard roles with nonstandard modifiers are a group.

DKKoba:

Temporary Death Miller - flips as random scum role in the game until that role dies.
Bit speculative here, I think the standard roles with nonstandard modifiers are a group. The mechanics of the Death Miller are slightly unusual, in a way similar to the mechanics of the Universal Backup.

Political Clout:

Sensitive Tracker - can't act night after targeting different alignment.
Bit speculative here, I think the standard roles with nonstandard modifiers are a group.

Bingle:

Immune townie - can't be altered in any way/shape/form, can choose between bp or ascetic.
Might be part of my speculative "nonstandard modifier, standard role" group, with the modifier being the entire role for Bingle.

In this group, HURT: Doctor Drew

Group 1 -

Implosion?

-

4/4 names;

must contain scum

(possible epicmafia player, implosion was an EM player)

Ranger:

Passifizer - Disables passives/modifiers for that night and following day, becomes miller during night when using.
I suspect I'm in the {Cook, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub} group by the similar role naming scheme.

Cook:

Modifier - gives random negative utility to target.
(I suspect is in my role group. I believe my group, by the role names as a clue, is {Ranger, Cook, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub}.)

camelCasedSnivy:

Baker - gives out goods which can self-roleblock when eaten, baked goods can be passed on, can only be used three times.
(I suspect is in my role group. I believe my group, by the role names as a clue, is {Ranger, Cook, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub}.)

KatyKimFanClub:

Revealer - reveals a random player's role if killed. (Sounds like what some call the Oracle role.)
(Might be in my role group? I believe my group, by the role names as a clue, is {Ranger, Cook, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub}.)

In this group, HURT: Cook

[Ranger]

REMINDER:
6 listmods submitted 4 roles each: 3 town, 1 scum.
Of those 24 roles, only 17 were used.
There should be six groups of roles in total, with seven roles randomly subtracted from them.
This means there's

theoretically

enough for one group to be entirely absent, and one group to only have a single role. This is the most extreme and would leave the other four groups full at 4/4.
More realistically, most groups should have ~3. However, any group with 4/4 guarantees netting scum. (Every group of 4 increases the odds of other groups being smaller.)

Group 6 -

Leftovers2

-

Alisae:

1x ignite arsonist - can mark one person per night up to two, can ignite once in game killing marked targets.
I don't know, tbh. Arsonist is a standard role, and it has a standard modifier. Nobody else has this.

Group 5 -

Leftovers

-

Ircher:

Day-Neighborizer, loses vote on following day.
Educated guess: there's only six groups, these roles don't fit in the below, but don't match with Alisae's.

DragonEater70:

Cop who loses role when town is eliminated.
Educated guess: there's only six groups, these roles don't fit in the below, but don't match with Alisae's.

Group 4 -

nonstandard role with modifier group?

-

3/4 names

Theta Alpine:

Desperate Treevivor Doomer - Temporary treestump of those investigating as a different alignment to her, must be used within 24 hours of the player's death.
Speculation, nonstandard roles with modifiers paired together.

Skygazer:

Compulsive Loan Shark - Gives people control of vote on even days. Takes control of actions of the player on the following night.
Speculation, nonstandard roles with modifiers paired together.

Random Nurse:

Non-Consecutive Enforcer - rolestopper for everything except nightkills.
Speculation, nonstandard roles with modifiers paired together.

Group 3 -

PenguinPower?

-

3/4 names

Save The Dragons:

Hotelier - Neighborizes two players, but only for that night. (This is PenguinPower's, presumably. The listmod needed awareness of Community Redux.)
Speculation; given the similarity between Aureal's claim and the Hotelier(which actually

was

a cult), this is probably the same group of roles.

AniX:

Restricted Joat of some kind. Three 1x abilities triggered upon performing certain actions or lack thereof during the day. Delayer (not voting restriction), tracker (vote crazy), vig (tunnel vote).
Presumably, paired with Aureal's group. Speculation; given the similarity between Aureal's claim and the cult-Hotelier, if AniX is also in the group, these three would all be together.

Aureal:

Amway Seller? (Basically a cult without the alignment.) Opens neighborhood with people, who then get to accept, requires a sales pitch (dayplay-related). People in neighborhood gain access to all abilities within, more people = more abilities available. However, people within can't use powers beyond the set offered while within, and must use a night action to leave. One of the powers is a neighborizer, which spreads the powers. Powers:1 in, message; 3 in, neighborhood; 6 in, roleblock + auto-recruit; 10 in, vig. (Being honest, I really don't wrap my head around Aureal's claim. I think the grouping's accurate spec though.)
Presumably, paired with AniX's group. Speculation; given the similarity between this role and the Hotelier cult role, they are presumably in the same role group.

Group 2 -

nonstandard modifier standard role group?

-

4/4 names;

must contain scum

Doctor Drew:

Eternal Universal Backup - inherits the role of the last town player to die, continuously.
Bit speculative here, I think the standard roles with nonstandard modifiers are a group.

DKKoba:

Temporary Death Miller - flips as random scum role in the game until that role dies.
Bit speculative here, I think the standard roles with nonstandard modifiers are a group. The mechanics of the Death Miller are slightly unusual, in a way similar to the mechanics of the Universal Backup.

Political Clout:

Sensitive Tracker - can't act night after targeting different alignment.
Bit speculative here, I think the standard roles with nonstandard modifiers are a group.

Bingle:

Immune townie - can't be altered in any way/shape/form, can choose between bp or ascetic.
Might be part of my speculative "nonstandard modifier, standard role" group, with the modifier being the entire role for Bingle.

In this group, HURT: Doctor Drew

Group 1 -

Implosion?

-

4/4 names;

must contain scum

(possible epicmafia player, implosion was an EM player)

Ranger:

Passifizer - Disables passives/modifiers for that night and following day, becomes miller during night when using.
I suspect I'm in the {Cook, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub} group by the similar role naming scheme.

Cook:

Modifier - gives random negative utility to target.
(I suspect is in my role group. I believe my group, by the role names as a clue, is {Ranger, Cook, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub}.)

camelCasedSnivy:

Baker - gives out goods which can self-roleblock when eaten, baked goods can be passed on, can only be used three times.
(I suspect is in my role group. I believe my group, by the role names as a clue, is {Ranger, Cook, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub}.)

KatyKimFanClub:

Revealer - reveals a random player's role if killed. (Sounds like what some call the Oracle role.)
(Might be in my role group? I believe my group, by the role names as a clue, is {Ranger, Cook, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub}.)

In this group, HURT: Cook

It should be noted, each group should contain no more than one scum;
Only 4/6 groups should have scum.

I honestly don't know who the remaining two scum are.
It could be Alisae; I don't scumread em.
It could be one of Ircher/DragonEater; I townread both.
It could be one of Theta/Skygazer/Nurse; I townread all.
It likely is one of STD/AniX/Aureal; of them I'd say Aureal's the most likely.

The soonest we should need to worry about this is D3, as if I'm right, Drew/Cook D1/D2 give us half the scumteam and six conftown.

[Ranger]

DragonEater70 and Political Clout are in the same group is my guess

This is certainly possible. If so, swap Bingle and DragonEater70 in which groups they're part of.

It depends slightly on the role names. It could be this.

REMINDER:
6 listmods submitted 4 roles each: 3 town, 1 scum.
Of those 24 roles, only 17 were used.
There should be six groups of roles in total, with seven roles randomly subtracted from them.
This means there's

theoretically

enough for one group to be entirely absent, and one group to only have a single role. This is the most extreme and would leave the other four groups full at 4/4.
More realistically, most groups should have ~3. However, any group with 4/4 guarantees netting scum. (Every group of 4 increases the odds of other groups being smaller.)

Group 6 -

Leftovers2

-

Alisae:

1x ignite arsonist - can mark one person per night up to two, can ignite once in game killing marked targets.
I don't know, tbh. Arsonist is a standard role, and it has a standard modifier. Nobody else has this.

Group 5 -

Leftovers

-

Ircher:

Day-Neighborizer, loses vote on following day.
Educated guess: there's only six groups, these roles don't fit in the below, but don't match with Alisae's.

DragonEater70:

Cop who loses role when town is eliminated.

Bingle:

Immune townie - can't be altered in any way/shape/form, can choose between bp or ascetic.
Educated guess: there's only six groups, these roles don't fit in the below, but don't match with Alisae's.

Group 4 -

nonstandard role with modifier group?

-

3/4 names

Theta Alpine:

Desperate Treevivor Doomer - Temporary treestump of those investigating as a different alignment to her, must be used within 24 hours of the player's death.
Speculation, nonstandard roles with modifiers paired together.

Skygazer:

Compulsive Loan Shark - Gives people control of vote on even days. Takes control of actions of the player on the following night.
Speculation, nonstandard roles with modifiers paired together.

Random Nurse:

Non-Consecutive Enforcer - rolestopper for everything except nightkills.
Speculation, nonstandard roles with modifiers paired together.

Group 3 -

PenguinPower?

-

3/4 names

Save The Dragons:

Hotelier - Neighborizes two players, but only for that night. (This is PenguinPower's, presumably. The listmod needed awareness of Community Redux.)
Speculation; given the similarity between Aureal's claim and the Hotelier(which actually

was

a cult), this is probably the same group of roles.

AniX:

Restricted Joat of some kind. Three 1x abilities triggered upon performing certain actions or lack thereof during the day. Delayer (not voting restriction), tracker (vote crazy), vig (tunnel vote).
Presumably, paired with Aureal's group. Speculation; given the similarity between Aureal's claim and the cult-Hotelier, if AniX is also in the group, these three would all be together.

Aureal:

Amway Seller? (Basically a cult without the alignment.) Opens neighborhood with people, who then get to accept, requires a sales pitch (dayplay-related). People in neighborhood gain access to all abilities within, more people = more abilities available. However, people within can't use powers beyond the set offered while within, and must use a night action to leave. One of the powers is a neighborizer, which spreads the powers. Powers:1 in, message; 3 in, neighborhood; 6 in, roleblock + auto-recruit; 10 in, vig. (Being honest, I really don't wrap my head around Aureal's claim. I think the grouping's accurate spec though.)
Presumably, paired with AniX's group. Speculation; given the similarity between this role and the Hotelier cult role, they are presumably in the same role group.

Group 2 -

nonstandard modifier standard role group?

-

4/4 names;

must contain scum

Doctor Drew:

Eternal Universal Backup - inherits the role of the last town player to die, continuously.
Bit speculative here, I think the standard roles with nonstandard modifiers are a group.

DKKoba:

Temporary Death Miller - flips as random scum role in the game until that role dies.
Bit speculative here, I think the standard roles with nonstandard modifiers are a group. The mechanics of the Death Miller are slightly unusual, in a way similar to the mechanics of the Universal Backup.

Political Clout:

Sensitive Tracker - can't act night after targeting different alignment.
Bit speculative here, I think the standard roles with nonstandard modifiers are a group.

Bingle:

Immune townie - can't be altered in any way/shape/form, can choose between bp or ascetic.
Might be part of my speculative "nonstandard modifier, standard role" group, with the modifier being the entire role for Bingle.

DragonEater70:

Cop who loses role when town is eliminated.
Bit speculative here, I think the standard roles with nonstandard modifiers are a group.

In this group, HURT: Doctor Drew

Group 1 -

Implosion?

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4/4 names;

must contain scum

(possible epicmafia player, implosion was an EM player)

Ranger:

Passifizer - Disables passives/modifiers for that night and following day, becomes miller during night when using.
I suspect I'm in the {Cook, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub} group by the similar role naming scheme.

Cook:

Modifier - gives random negative utility to target.
(I suspect is in my role group. I believe my group, by the role names as a clue, is {Ranger, Cook, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub}.)

camelCasedSnivy:

Baker - gives out goods which can self-roleblock when eaten, baked goods can be passed on, can only be used three times.
(I suspect is in my role group. I believe my group, by the role names as a clue, is {Ranger, Cook, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub}.)

KatyKimFanClub:

Revealer - reveals a random player's role if killed. (Sounds like what some call the Oracle role.)
(Might be in my role group? I believe my group, by the role names as a clue, is {Ranger, Cook, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub}.)

In this group, HURT: Cook[/quote]It should be noted, each group should contain no more than one scum;
Only 4/6 groups should have scum.

I honestly don't know who the remaining two scum are.
It could be Alisae; I don't scumread em.
It could be one of Ircher/DragonEater; I townread both.
It could be one of Theta/Skygazer/Nurse; I townread all.
It likely is one of STD/AniX/Aureal; of them I'd say Aureal's the most likely.

The soonest we should need to worry about this is D3, as if I'm right, Drew/Cook D1/D2 give us half the scumteam and six conftown.

[Ranger]

Oops, botched final section.

DragonEater70 and Political Clout are in the same group is my guess

This is certainly possible. If so, swap Bingle and DragonEater70 in which groups they're part of.

It depends slightly on the role names. It could be this.

REMINDER:
6 listmods submitted 4 roles each: 3 town, 1 scum.
Of those 24 roles, only 17 were used.
There should be six groups of roles in total, with seven roles randomly subtracted from them.
This means there's

theoretically

enough for one group to be entirely absent, and one group to only have a single role. This is the most extreme and would leave the other four groups full at 4/4.
More realistically, most groups should have ~3. However, any group with 4/4 guarantees netting scum. (Every group of 4 increases the odds of other groups being smaller.)

Group 6 -

Leftovers2

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Alisae:

1x ignite arsonist - can mark one person per night up to two, can ignite once in game killing marked targets.
I don't know, tbh. Arsonist is a standard role, and it has a standard modifier. Nobody else has this.

Group 5 -

Leftovers

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Ircher:

Day-Neighborizer, loses vote on following day.
Educated guess: there's only six groups, these roles don't fit in the below, but don't match with Alisae's.

DragonEater70:

Cop who loses role when town is eliminated.

Bingle:

Immune townie - can't be altered in any way/shape/form, can choose between bp or ascetic.
Educated guess: there's only six groups, these roles don't fit in the below, but don't match with Alisae's.

Group 4 -

nonstandard role with modifier group?

-

3/4 names

Theta Alpine:

Desperate Treevivor Doomer - Temporary treestump of those investigating as a different alignment to her, must be used within 24 hours of the player's death.
Speculation, nonstandard roles with modifiers paired together.

Skygazer:

Compulsive Loan Shark - Gives people control of vote on even days. Takes control of actions of the player on the following night.
Speculation, nonstandard roles with modifiers paired together.

Random Nurse:

Non-Consecutive Enforcer - rolestopper for everything except nightkills.
Speculation, nonstandard roles with modifiers paired together.

Group 3 -

PenguinPower?

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3/4 names

Save The Dragons:

Hotelier - Neighborizes two players, but only for that night. (This is PenguinPower's, presumably. The listmod needed awareness of Community Redux.)
Speculation; given the similarity between Aureal's claim and the Hotelier(which actually

was

a cult), this is probably the same group of roles.

AniX:

Restricted Joat of some kind. Three 1x abilities triggered upon performing certain actions or lack thereof during the day. Delayer (not voting restriction), tracker (vote crazy), vig (tunnel vote).
Presumably, paired with Aureal's group. Speculation; given the similarity between Aureal's claim and the cult-Hotelier, if AniX is also in the group, these three would all be together.

Aureal:

Amway Seller? (Basically a cult without the alignment.) Opens neighborhood with people, who then get to accept, requires a sales pitch (dayplay-related). People in neighborhood gain access to all abilities within, more people = more abilities available. However, people within can't use powers beyond the set offered while within, and must use a night action to leave. One of the powers is a neighborizer, which spreads the powers. Powers:1 in, message; 3 in, neighborhood; 6 in, roleblock + auto-recruit; 10 in, vig. (Being honest, I really don't wrap my head around Aureal's claim. I think the grouping's accurate spec though.)
Presumably, paired with AniX's group. Speculation; given the similarity between this role and the Hotelier cult role, they are presumably in the same role group.

Group 2 -

nonstandard modifier standard role group?

-

4/4 names;

must contain scum

Doctor Drew:

Eternal Universal Backup - inherits the role of the last town player to die, continuously.
Bit speculative here, I think the standard roles with nonstandard modifiers are a group.

DKKoba:

Temporary Death Miller - flips as random scum role in the game until that role dies.
Bit speculative here, I think the standard roles with nonstandard modifiers are a group. The mechanics of the Death Miller are slightly unusual, in a way similar to the mechanics of the Universal Backup.

Political Clout:

Sensitive Tracker - can't act night after targeting different alignment.
Bit speculative here, I think the standard roles with nonstandard modifiers are a group.

Bingle:

Immune townie - can't be altered in any way/shape/form, can choose between bp or ascetic.
Might be part of my speculative "nonstandard modifier, standard role" group, with the modifier being the entire role for Bingle.

DragonEater70:

Cop who loses role when town is eliminated.
Bit speculative here, I think the standard roles with nonstandard modifiers are a group.

In this group, HURT: Doctor Drew

Group 1 -

Implosion?

-

4/4 names;

must contain scum

(possible epicmafia player, implosion was an EM player)

Ranger:

Passifizer - Disables passives/modifiers for that night and following day, becomes miller during night when using.
I suspect I'm in the {Cook, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub} group by the similar role naming scheme.

Cook:

Modifier - gives random negative utility to target.
(I suspect is in my role group. I believe my group, by the role names as a clue, is {Ranger, Cook, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub}.)

camelCasedSnivy:

Baker - gives out goods which can self-roleblock when eaten, baked goods can be passed on, can only be used three times.
(I suspect is in my role group. I believe my group, by the role names as a clue, is {Ranger, Cook, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub}.)

KatyKimFanClub:

Revealer - reveals a random player's role if killed. (Sounds like what some call the Oracle role.)
(Might be in my role group? I believe my group, by the role names as a clue, is {Ranger, Cook, camelCasedSnivy, KatyKimFanClub}.)

In this group, HURT: Cook

It should be noted, each group should contain no more than one scum;
Only 4/6 groups should have scum.

I honestly don't know who the remaining two scum are.
It could be Alisae; I don't scumread em.
It could be one of Ircher/

DragonEater

Bingle

; I townread both.
It could be one of Theta/Skygazer/Nurse; I townread all.
It likely is one of STD/AniX/Aureal; of them I'd say Aureal's the most likely.

The soonest we should need to worry about this is D3, as if I'm right, Drew/Cook D1/D2 give us half the scumteam and six conftown.

Fix'd.

[Ranger]

Reflecting, I actually like 2018's sets more.

If I got it correct, then with Doctor Drew and Cook scum, we've got six conftown, scum either shoot among those six conftown or let DE70 investigate, and DE70 if left alive generates a result on one of the unsorted four tiers.

[Ranger]

Cook and Ranger are probably not from the same submitter because of the dichotomy in style. Cook's role is poorly explained and poorly defined, Rangers takes the time to acknowledge that both modifiers and passives are being suppressed.

I strongly disagree. The style's identical if you hold the role and know what it is. Specifying's sadly against the rules so I'd rather not get force-replaced or worse for providing two details. However, I'm 100% certain about the members of my group being precisely those four players.

The other groups are speculation. Speculation I feel is very good, yet speculation regardless. I'm not wrong about Cook being in my group, designed by the same mod.

[Ranger]

{KatyKimFanClub, camelCasedSnivy, Political Clout, DKKoba}

(all on the caveats of Drew/Cook flipping scum)

{DragonEater70}
{Bingle, AniX}
{Ircher, Random Nurse}
{Save The Dragons, Theta Alpine}
{Alisae}
{Aureal, Skygazer}
{Doctor Drew}
{Cook}

Loose reads. I'm confident in the top three and bottom two tiers. The middle four are more flexible.

[Ranger]

if ranger targets me with their ability then if mafia shoots dragoneater then i can just
treestump dragoneater and we get the result anyways

I plan on this.

[camelCasedSnivy]

Ranger took Bingles job cant believe this

[Theta Alpine]

i should note it is guaranteed that at least one role from each listmod is present