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Post Post #1925 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2023 4:22 pm

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In post 1908, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 1905, Aureal wrote:
I doubt they get any additional information on what they're getting beyond what I say. Why do you bring that up? Do you think I'm lying about what accepting the Amway offer means? What sort of negative effects do you think could happen if I were?
I got no clue but you can never be too careful. I was just asking.
I really don't understand your defensiveness though. Wouldn't you ask the same question in my position?
Well maybe you should go re-read the crap Bingle has been pulling out because you just seem like you're trying to reinforce his "this is SOOOOO BAD no I can't explain HOW" narrative designed to instill doubt in town so they won't care about losing out on the potential from my role.
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Post Post #1926 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2023 4:25 pm

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Post Post #1927 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2023 4:36 pm

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hi
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Post Post #1928 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2023 4:47 pm

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In post 1909, DragonEater70 wrote: Also it just occured to me that if you are scum your role might provide fake info to your target. So even if you do target Ranger it might not fully confirm your role. I really am NOT implying that you ARE scum though.

But I would really, really appreciate a bullet point list. And I gave already said that I'm potentially in favor of you targeting Ranger, so actually me asking for bullet points is NOT "not even bothering to try figuring out how to use the role". I currently think we need more info and that targeting Ranger would be the best use if it works like you say it does.
Yeah, I already acknowledged that you guys can't be sure that my role is actually entirely the same as the abilities I give to others. I understand that and fully expect that I'm not going to be surviving deep into the game, it's just a matter of whether scum or town kill me off first. What is not acceptable is just waving it all away so I can get killed tonight and leave none of it behind for town when they see in the morning that it all came from town in the first place so they didn't need to be paranoid but OOOOOPS TOO LATE NOW. I
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be using my other neighborhood on someone today so it'd be really cool to get some feedback from others on this stuff but that's not happening because Bingle's been yelling about it being scum.

I just looked back at the claim list and realized Ranger is not the place to start under my current plan, unfortunately, because we need her to use her ability on Theta tonight so Theta can be not Desperate and thus use the Amway on town tomorrow. I'll have to ponder that a little more and maybe go out on a limb with someone who's a less confident read like STD or Ircher.
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Post Post #1929 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2023 5:02 pm

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In looking at the claims again though, I've noticed that Nurse's claim is semi-confirmable by my abilities as well though, as a neighborhood is something both parties will know exists. So if I get 3 recruits to get the neighborhood ability, Nurse and I can target the same player, but the neighborhood should fail. If we get a neighborhood anyway, something has gone wrong with Nurse's power- either he got blocked or didn't have it. I don't know that this is very useful, but it's something.
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Post Post #1930 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2023 5:04 pm

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That should be "either he or I got blocked or he didn't have it."
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Post Post #1931 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2023 5:25 pm

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In post 1899, DragonEater70 wrote:Hope you had a good time!
I did, I just feel guilty I'm not here when this game owes my time to be invested.

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Post Post #1932 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2023 6:17 pm

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i'm pretty sure someone said this already but

...do we have any protectives? like, any at all?
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Post Post #1933 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:16 pm

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I'm going to try to get caught up in this game. I have no idea where we are in this game currently.
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Post Post #1934 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2023 8:46 pm

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probably the same place we were three days ago
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Post Post #1935 (ISO) » Sun Aug 13, 2023 11:24 pm

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VOTE: de70
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Post Post #1936 (ISO) » Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:56 am

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In post 1935, KatyKimFanClub wrote: VOTE: de70
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Post Post #1937 (ISO) » Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:03 am

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In post 1932, Cook wrote: i'm pretty sure someone said this already but

...do we have any protectives? like, any at all?
I’m technically a protective, but only for myself.
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Post Post #1938 (ISO) » Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:09 am

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In post 1925, Aureal wrote:
In post 1908, DragonEater70 wrote:
In post 1905, Aureal wrote:
Well maybe you should go re-read the crap Bingle has been pulling out because you just seem like you're trying to reinforce his "this is SOOOOO BAD no I can't explain HOW" narrative designed to instill doubt in town so they won't care about losing out on the potential from my role.
I actually have not given any analysis as to the actual use of your role, which I will, just in case you are town. I’ve been focusing on why burying the claim was fucking scummy as shit. And don’t even try to say that you didn’t attempt to dodge fullclaiming, then when called out on it buried the relevant information about your role in a shit ton of different posts OR that you made the completely nonsense claim that your role needed to be claimed last to prevent counterplay.

What exactly is the counterplay you were worried about?
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Post Post #1939 (ISO) » Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:10 am

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In post 1938, Bingle wrote:
In post 1925, Aureal wrote:
Well maybe you should go re-read the crap Bingle has been pulling out because you just seem like you're trying to reinforce his "this is SOOOOO BAD no I can't explain HOW" narrative designed to instill doubt in town so they won't care about losing out on the potential from my role.
I actually have not given any analysis as to the actual use of your role, which I will, just in case you are town. I’ve been focusing on why burying the claim was fucking scummy as shit. And don’t even try to say that you didn’t attempt to dodge fullclaiming, then when called out on it buried the relevant information about your role in a shit ton of different posts OR that you made the completely nonsense claim that your role needed to be claimed last to prevent counterplay.

What exactly is the counterplay you were worried about?
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Post Post #1940 (ISO) » Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:11 am

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In post 1932, Cook wrote: i'm pretty sure someone said this already but

...do we have any protectives? like, any at all?
Did you define your negative utility modifiers yet?
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Post Post #1941 (ISO) » Mon Aug 14, 2023 2:16 am

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I’ll do a strat write up on your role tonight under the assumption you’re just fucking terrible at claiming and actually town, so if you are somehow town hold off until then on targeting.

Thetas role is not useful unless used on Koba, and only conditionally useful then.
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Post Post #1942 (ISO) » Mon Aug 14, 2023 4:12 am

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why is this game still on day 1 :yawn:
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Post Post #1943 (ISO) » Mon Aug 14, 2023 5:32 am

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In post 1941, Bingle wrote:
I’ll do a strat write up on your role tonight under the assumption you’re just fucking terrible at claiming and actually town, so if you are somehow town hold off until then on targeting.

Thetas role is not useful unless used on Koba, and only conditionally useful then.
if i am given other abilities i can effectively become a cop though
a daycop in this case if i understand correctly since it seems the only part i am likely to get access to is a day ability

also wow i can get prodded and return to basically the same subject as when i left
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Post Post #1944 (ISO) » Mon Aug 14, 2023 5:58 am

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Let's start voting people for death and consolidating and say our lim pool for today.
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Post Post #1945 (ISO) » Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:31 am

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i mean i was going to vote drew and then i noticed they requested to replace out so
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Post Post #1946 (ISO) » Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:33 am

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im tempted to just no lim and see what happens since i heavily doubt we can get mafia d1

maybe we can all list our pools like PC said and figure it out from there (rn on phone tho)
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Post Post #1947 (ISO) » Mon Aug 14, 2023 6:55 am

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In post 1946, camelCasedSnivy wrote: im tempted to just no lim and see what happens since i heavily doubt we can get mafia d1

maybe we can all list our pools like PC said and figure it out from there (rn on phone tho)
we do not no lim day one on mafiascum
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Post Post #1948 (ISO) » Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:35 am

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I'd be ok with no lim, since it is the limited case where we can lock DragonEater into using his cop ability.
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Post Post #1949 (ISO) » Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:40 am

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true
we can just exchange lim for one cop result in this case
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