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Post #110 (isolation #7) » Sun Aug 13, 2023 1:23 pm
Postby Infinity 324 »
In post 93, Datisi wrote:
not the biggest fan of infinity's weaksauce attention diversion from the main argument (yes this is partly fueled by omgus but i still think it's odd with how little comment they handvawed skitt/shea)
really? like what does it say to you that we don't have much of an opinion on shea's alignment from that interaction
In post 93, Datisi wrote:
not the biggest fan of infinity's weaksauce attention diversion from the main argument (yes this is partly fueled by omgus but i still think it's odd with how little comment they handvawed skitt/shea)
really? like what does it say to you that we don't have much of an opinion on shea's alignment from that interaction
nothing
In post 111, Infinity 324 wrote:
also why as scum do we try to divert attention from a 1v1 that is probably just gonna draw more attention to itself
why not lol
if it's tvt then it might not need your help and will keep drawing attention to itself while you can work on a misyeet elsewhere
if it's tvs maybe you don't know how to position yourself against your partner and/or trust them to handle the situation
like these are just the first 2 thoughts and there's probably more and surely you know how bad of an argument this is
no? like ok let's back up a bit. I come in and say skitt seems towny, don't say anything about shea, and vote you. what exactly are you expecting me to do differently as town there given those are my thoughts about the situation? and I guess I don't exactly get what you meant by "diverting attention", to me that means trying to get the thread to be about something besides shea v skitt. like in your tvt scenario there it still doesn't really explain why I would avoid commenting on the 1v1 more extensively.
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Post #137 (isolation #11) » Mon Aug 14, 2023 4:36 am
Postby Infinity 324 »
"why not" just doesn't make sense as a response to me here given you're the one that claimed it was scummy and I don't understand why you think what I did is either less likely from town or more likely from scum.
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Post #151 (isolation #12) » Mon Aug 14, 2023 5:06 am
Postby Infinity 324 »
UNVOTE: yeah that's kinda how we were expecting town!dats to respond. but also dats did you make anything of 107 having a lot more weirdness associated with skitt than shea? like I know you're voting skitt but it felt a bit weird that you didn't even mention it
we still pretty strongly believe that making a level 0 read and expecting other people to think the same way is in character for skitt
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Post #156 (isolation #13) » Mon Aug 14, 2023 5:14 am
Postby Infinity 324 »
fwiw we're going to be careful about reading shade from shea's posts cause we tend to think about...stuff pretty differently from him and that's part of why we didn't say anything about shea's side of the 1v1. and it probably actually makes sense that dats would pick up on that
pedit: uhh yeah not much I guess we just expected like a line commenting on it but we're coming around to a tr on you anyway. we definitely get how it feels to having people nitpicking your thoughts and calling you scum for it
In post 6, Infinity 324 wrote:
VOTE: atsi too similar to datisi, one of you has to go
Why would you not choose Datisi to go since he is physically incapable of rolling town?
In post 59, Night Shade wrote:
Real talk though I understand the meta considerations re: ari's reaction to ausukas claim but the whole miller claim thing felt a little bit over the top to me.
-Shade
In post 61, Night Shade wrote:
it was specifically the emotive anger part to me that felt a little bit like more than how ausuka would actually as town legitimately react.
In my mind ausuka isn't like some super gambit heavy player though so I guess I'll just tuck that thought away for later.
-Shade
So I actually don't like these posts upon reread. Like they have this neutral sort of tone which at first I thought was typical of TSQ, and then I realized was the same tone he had in Team Mafia, when he was scum. (I don't think I recall playing a game with town!TSQ so this might definitely be a personality thing but for now I sus that)
VOTE: TSQ - I mean Night Shade
this doesn't make sense, if it's a personality thing (which i think it is btw) of course he'd do the same thing as scum.
In post 226, Infinity 324 wrote:
black, did you make anything about the follow up to my questions, and my townread of datisi afterwards?
Not really. I'm not a huge fan of 151, in particular you saying you expect town!Datisi to respond a certain way and then unvoting. Could be a legit thought you're having but it also just kinda seems informed to me
I'm not a huge fan of where our vote is atm but I just discussed internally with Shea and his skitter read seems stronger than mine, so I'm cool with it for now
-Night
ok, I guess I can see that, I just really liked how he was like "here's my read take it or leave it" instead of trying to overjustify himself
i guess lean scum if i had to give a read? the tr on skitt felt a bit surface level and the vote on your slot didn't make a lot of sense to me.
Any thoughts on my slot vs. skitter?
not really anything new? we still feel like skitt being like "scum probably doesn't claim miller like that and you should think that too" is towny for her, and not much has really changed since then except some more townvibes from her. from your&shea's side, i obviously don't agree with the push on her but it doesn't seem particularly scummy or anything, and generally we're having trouble sorting your slot cause we're just out of sync with both of you. there were some things that raised some eyebrows (focusing on our initial questioning of datisi rather than his response and our unvote, the questioning of marci) but it could very easily still be playstyle.
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Post #319 (isolation #22) » Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:42 pm
Postby Infinity 324 »
In post 317, Night Shade wrote:
That post gives me townvibes. It feels honest and real. And I may be slightly biased because I started exploring my own Elements/Dragon paranoia earlier today so I liked that Infinity is also feeling that
mmm really? i basically said "this slot is basically null but a couple things pinged me" which feels like a very different thing than paranoia. if you're town and actually felt something related that's ok haha just feels a bit weird
As far as questioning marci, I'm not sure why that's odd, but I sort people better when I engage with them. So yeah maybe it is a playstyle thing
yeah just the way you engaged came off as a bit aggressive, but if you didn't realize they were having trouble getting into the game that's fine. but this response feels a bit diplomatic if you think i was saying engaging with people is scummy?
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Post #350 (isolation #23) » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:34 am
Postby Infinity 324 »
In post 344, Aristeia wrote:
the only people that I can see in thread who expressed "suspicion" of you between infinity's vote and their stepback/pivot are skitter and myself. so if the concern is that there's mafia who is piling on after infinity voted already then why is infinity not trying to sort either myself or skitter?
ausuka too
that wasn't the concern, the concern was that ivy thought it was unlikely that don corleone would come in and immediately get like everyone thinking he feels off
wrt the datisi response, i think scum!him would be much more interesting in defending himself and making his thought process "make sense", especially with so many people suspecting him. instead he was just like "idk that's just the way i felt" which felt towny
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Post #355 (isolation #25) » Wed Aug 16, 2023 4:45 am
Postby Infinity 324 »
honestly i thought you meant ausuka was scumreading datisi before 97 and we skimmed ausuka's iso and believed you. "i also think datisi feels off" contributed to the feeling iirc.
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Post #361 (isolation #26) » Wed Aug 16, 2023 5:49 am
Postby Infinity 324 »
In post 358, Aristeia wrote:
because you expressed net scumread316 on the slot - it became viable and your vote is currently uncast and its a y-2 wagon. You think your position in the game is relatively town-read and it would look bad if you voted so soon after Datisi so you're waiting to see what happens.
why would i not just have a null slight scumlean on the slot though
still wondering about 317, am i getting too hung up thinking it could've been trying to pocket me?
In post 389, skitter30 wrote:
I still find night shade ro be ridiculously scummy
Idk why this is dead
you scumread me when i'm town and townread me when i'm scum. idk what to say but can you figure it out already? i think this game will be 5 for 5
do you think skitt is town atp?
UNVOTE: i don't remember why exactly we voted atsi. I think it had something to do with popping in with those posts feeling very surface level and detached, but some of us can easily see that from town, so.
we liked night's posts on the past couple pages quite a bit.
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Post #411 (isolation #30) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 7:23 am
Postby Infinity 324 »
In post 409, DragonEater70 wrote:
Hi guys sorry for disappearing but I'm back and better than ever!
I'm actually slightly annoyed that I only have like 3 pages to catch up on but oh well, let's go!
haha hope you're feeling better, we're interested if you could skim the skitt scumgame we linked and if you still have the same feeling about her afterwards
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Post #429 (isolation #32) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:39 am
Postby Infinity 324 »
In post 422, DragonEater70 wrote:I don't think you understood what I said? I said that if it was a personality thing it would be NAI but I currently have no indication that it is a personality thing
does me saying that i think it's a personality thing do anything for you
my point was that you had the thought that it was a personality thing, and then you realized he did it as scum. but if it was a personality thing he'd do it as both scum and town. him doing it as scum shouldn't tell you that it's not a personality thing.
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Post #433 (isolation #34) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 8:47 am
Postby Infinity 324 »
i'd probably claim miller in my first post cause that's my impression of what you're supposed to do. i've never thought about claiming late d1 but that does seem fine, i don't see why either is better honestly
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Post #452 (isolation #35) » Fri Aug 18, 2023 9:53 am
Postby Infinity 324 »
In post 450, DragonEater70 wrote:
IDK how it got so late, it was like 19:40 just a few minutes ago and now it's 22:36.
I am going to sleep soon so won't finish the entire catchup right now, but I have looked at the game @Infinity has linked and these are my thoughts:
Yes, I can see that scum!Skitter is very logical, if by logical you mean "devoid of inconsistencies and logical fallacies". But I definitely did not feel that her push on Nacho D1 was sensible and came from a town viewpoint in the same way that he reads this game are.
Like maybe I'm biased because I already know she was scum in that game, but if I try to read her posts from that game then her reads and pushes there don't actually feel townie to me, they feel slightly more scummy than townie. She's definitely good at disguising it though.
