Veiled Committee Mafia: List Mods Edition [game over]

[Cook]

do i have to make my own content

[Aureal]

We could try to ping Dragoneater70 some more to get him to claim.

[xyzzy]

votecount 1.12

if you saw me submit this post without changing the flavor text here first, no you didn't

3 players voting for Doctor Drew (Ranger, DragonEater70, DkKoba)
2 players voting for Theta Alpine (Doctor Drew, Cook)
1 player voting for camelCasedSnivy (Political Clout)
1 player voting for Political Clout (camelCasedSnivy)
1 player voting for DragonEater70 (AniX)
1 player voting for Random Nurse (KatyKimFanClub)
1 player voting for Alisae (Aureal)
1 player voting for Cook (Ircher)

6 players not voting (Alisae, Random Nurse, Bingle, Theta Alpine, Save The Dragons, Skygazer)

with 17 votes, it takes 9 to eliminate.

mod notes: still looking for a Doctor Drew replacement. prodded DragonEater70 and KatyKimFanClub.

[Ranger]

someone gonna play or

Apologies. I've a limited amount of free time given wedding prep and friend stuff, plus other irl stressors like work.

I'll finish compiling the claims and give updated thoughts as I can. May not be tonight. Realistically, if it's not within the next 24 hours it won't be until Monday at soonest. As I've no desire for things to stall until then, I'll see if I can squeeze in activity. Sorry for the delays.

[KatyKimFanClub]

Sorry for my shifty activity in this game.

Will catch up in the next 12 hours or so. If we cannot decide on a lim I’m not the worst choice bc of my role

[KatyKimFanClub]

Actually there's no deadline. Don't vote me.

[xyzzy]

Alisae has requested replacement.

[camelCasedSnivy]

ill even it out why not

VOTE: Theta

we arent really getting anywhere

[Bingle]

I have thoughts re: groupings, individual role balance, play, associative tells, and educational reform that all deserve an entire wall, but I’m not sure how many I can get to cause I promised a friend from the other side of the planet I’d be able to hang out tonight.

If people have a preference, I would enjoy hearing which.

For now, aureal has NOT full claimed. We still need number of followers to trigger every individual role, whether role chains are recursive, whether aureal gets to know who has access to each individual’s list of powers.

The role itself has the very distinct characteristic of not benefiting at all from being last claimed, yet aureal was very concerned with going early because claiming after everyone would break the game. In the strongest case, aureal has a role that functionally turns this game into everyone is a vig.

Aureal slipped on part of her role that’s being withheld when talking about me. She mentioned that her role could confirm my role, but prima fasci it does not do that. If I were lying about my role and aureal’s was as claimed, the only thing I’d have to do to not be caught would be not use any visible powers. That tells me there is a significant portion of aureal’s claim that isn’t being said. Based on my role that could be an alignment change mechanic (recruit five people, join scumteam) or a compulsive modifier.

Even then, Aureal doesn’t show any paranoia about scum getting access to vig shots. Vig shots, which I very well believe have utility only in situations where they are known or reasonably certain to be coming from town.

Tl;dr, this is probably a Sakura Hana from RC’s UPick type deal where the role is all about scum convincing town to trust them and then profiting.

AniX should accept the power up and claim the information they get, but no one else should accept a power up from either player aorn.

personally id like groupings to see how it may differ from mine, but thats selfish and ill let others choose

I’ve decided to do my setup spec as all one block. I will say that we’re approaching the groupings in a different way, in that you’re trying to look for themed groups and I’m more trying to pin each role to a modding style, but you’ll have to wait a little longer.

[DkKoba]

VOTE: dragone

[camelCasedSnivy]

VOTE: DragonEater70

I forgot that guy hasnt claimed though they are prodded

[Cook]

VOTE: dragoneater

[Cook]

wooo wagons and content

[Aureal]

Not so sure he's town anymore, are we?

VOTE: DragonEater70

[camelCasedSnivy]

DragonEater70's replacement gonna have a tough ride

[DragonEater70]

You're not concerned with Dragoneater totally blowing off claiming while also trying to say he's not waiting for anything? Because I darn well have been waiting for it, so if he's actually just outright refusing to participate in the mass claim he bloody well needs to say so.

I mean... Other than not realizing he still hadn't claimed?

Dragoneater, is there something in particular you're holding out for before claiming?

/confirmed and waiting.

All the peeps in this post will get pinged by this post.

Claim in your next post, regardless of how gamebreaking you think you claiming last is. You're literally killing the game by dragging this out and I am not above breaking into houses and beating people with a bar of soap if this behavior continues.

Hi, sorry about not posting, I just got really busy irl. I will continue to be busy for the next few days, however I am realizing that I've been dragging the game out so I will claim now.

I am a cop, except I lose my cop ability the first time a townie player is eliminated, which kinda sucks and is the reason I didn't want to vote Koba but meh.

@Mod, I will be V/LA until Tuesday morning.

[DragonEater70]

VOTE: dragoneater

Noice. I feel vaguely motivated to tryhard now. Which is unfortunate timing since I'm busy irl as I said.

[DragonEater70]

But just fyi I didn't claim cause I didn't want to be roleblocked/killed and I couldn't thonk of any clever fakeclaim.

[DkKoba]

VOTE: ircher

[AniX]

This really feels like a role that is worthless and just makes me want to vote DragonEater more now. The odds that the town goes 2/2 on lims is...low. So what is the role? A vanilla townie with a 1/17 chance of getting a one-shot investigation ability? That doesn't really fit with the roles we've been seeing, where the goofiness and flaws are more tricky and involved.

[DragonEater70]

I guess I got the single role my listmod designed. What can I say.

[DragonEater70]

We could try to ping Dragoneater70 some more to get him to claim.

Did you claim though?

[DragonEater70]

I'm not concerned with de claiming bc he's newer and also transparently towny
The deflection is scummy af

I quite disagree with that assessment of Dragoneater. His overall manner is rather mixed and I've taken note of a couple things that stuck out as rather scummy in addition to this whole dragging out claiming to hound Ranger instead thing.

I don't really give a crap what you think about my 'deflection'. I've already claimed like half of it to AniX in the neighborhood I opened earlier through that interaction in the thread. Guess nobody noticed that they slipped and said my role was related to MLM even though I just gave them a generic sales pitch about food.

It's hilarious(ly infuriating) how DE complained about wanting a neighborhood with Ranger because of whatever he's going on about. Guess what, we can give it to him with my role! I sell Amway, so everyone who accepts my offer to join Amway once I open a neighborhood with them gets a copy of all my abilities, which are obviously based on the amount of people in the chain of my recruits.

I haven't bothered doing a lot of spec on exactly what to do since I know the mechheads are gonna twink, but it clearly seems Bingle's lack of ability to modify his role is confirmable through use of this. Someone just needs to get him to join Amway then he uses a recruitment phrase on another nonAmway person, and if no neighborhood forms that should confirm it to the would be recruit. And the person who 'recruited' Bingle probably doesn't get credit for him either, though that's maybe kinda grey.

Anyone who accepts the Amway abilities gets the whole set, so everyone except Bingle can a have a neighborhood with whomever they want if they take it (and he should still be neighborizeable so he isn't totally left out), now that this is in the open so people darn well know what's up when someone gives them a sales pitch they need to react to for it. They'll get the Amway night actions instead of whatever their actions were, but it seems we have little in the way of useful night actions anyway. (Hence my asking Theta whether that would be a night action)

So, if you all got to pick, who would you want or not want to become a vig?

(There's a roleblock and more neighborhood action too but that's not as exciting)

I'm honestly not sure ai understand, but basicalky anyone who neighborizers another gives them all their abilities? This is amazing because then I can give everyone cop ability.

[AniX]

16 roles that are bizarre Frankenstein creations, most of them patchworks of different abilities, restrictions, and left-field powers.
1 role that is a one-shot cop but only if the town gets really lucky day 1.

It just doesn't add.

[DragonEater70]

I'm not concerned with de claiming bc he's newer and also transparently towny
The deflection is scummy af

I quite disagree with that assessment of Dragoneater. His overall manner is rather mixed and I've taken note of a couple things that stuck out as rather scummy in addition to this whole dragging out claiming to hound Ranger instead thing.

I don't really give a crap what you think about my 'deflection'. I've already claimed like half of it to AniX in the neighborhood I opened earlier through that interaction in the thread. Guess nobody noticed that they slipped and said my role was related to MLM even though I just gave them a generic sales pitch about food.

It's hilarious(ly infuriating) how DE complained about wanting a neighborhood with Ranger because of whatever he's going on about. Guess what, we can give it to him with my role! I sell Amway, so everyone who accepts my offer to join Amway once I open a neighborhood with them gets a copy of all my abilities, which are obviously based on the amount of people in the chain of my recruits.

I haven't bothered doing a lot of spec on exactly what to do since I know the mechheads are gonna twink, but it clearly seems Bingle's lack of ability to modify his role is confirmable through use of this. Someone just needs to get him to join Amway then he uses a recruitment phrase on another nonAmway person, and if no neighborhood forms that should confirm it to the would be recruit. And the person who 'recruited' Bingle probably doesn't get credit for him either, though that's maybe kinda grey.

Anyone who accepts the Amway abilities gets the whole set, so everyone except Bingle can a have a neighborhood with whomever they want if they take it (and he should still be neighborizeable so he isn't totally left out), now that this is in the open so people darn well know what's up when someone gives them a sales pitch they need to react to for it. They'll get the Amway night actions instead of whatever their actions were, but it seems we have little in the way of useful night actions anyway. (Hence my asking Theta whether that would be a night action)

So, if you all got to pick, who would you want or not want to become a vig?

(There's a roleblock and more neighborhood action too but that's not as exciting)

I'm honestly not sure I understood correctly, but basically anyone who neighborizers another gives them all their abilities? This is amazing because then I can give everyone cop ability.