Veiled Committee Mafia: List Mods Edition [game over]

[Skygazer]

mine

[DkKoba]

also aureal already claimed
or else i would be on them

ok well to be fair they're also the scummiest slot in the game currently so

[Bingle]

I'm not concerned with de claiming bc he's newer and also transparently towny
The deflection is scummy af

I quite disagree with that assessment of Dragoneater. His overall manner is rather mixed and I've taken note of a couple things that stuck out as rather scummy in addition to this whole dragging out claiming to hound Ranger instead thing.

I don't really give a crap what you think about my 'deflection'. I've already claimed like half of it to AniX in the neighborhood I opened earlier through that interaction in the thread. Guess nobody noticed that they slipped and said my role was related to MLM even though I just gave them a generic sales pitch about food.

It's hilarious(ly infuriating) how DE complained about wanting a neighborhood with Ranger because of whatever he's going on about. Guess what, we can give it to him with my role! I sell Amway, so everyone who accepts my offer to join Amway once I open a neighborhood with them gets a copy of all my abilities, which are obviously based on the amount of people in the chain of my recruits.

I haven't bothered doing a lot of spec on exactly what to do since I know the mechheads are gonna twink, but it clearly seems Bingle's lack of ability to modify his role is confirmable through use of this. Someone just needs to get him to join Amway then he uses a recruitment phrase on another nonAmway person, and if no neighborhood forms that should confirm it to the would be recruit. And the person who 'recruited' Bingle probably doesn't get credit for him either, though that's maybe kinda grey.

Anyone who accepts the Amway abilities gets the whole set, so everyone except Bingle can a have a neighborhood with whomever they want if they take it (and he should still be neighborizeable so he isn't totally left out), now that this is in the open so people darn well know what's up when someone gives them a sales pitch they need to react to for it. They'll get the Amway night actions instead of whatever their actions were, but it seems we have little in the way of useful night actions anyway. (Hence my asking Theta whether that would be a night action)

So, if you all got to pick, who would you want or not want to become a vig?

(There's a roleblock and more neighborhood action too but that's not as exciting)

Ooh, nice, a scumclaim.

[DkKoba]

it would b funny if i died and it flipped that exact ability

[Skygazer]

if koba was scum and their ability was to flip as a random townie's role that would be hilarious

[Skygazer]

not that i think thats whats happening but i wouldnt be mad about it

[camelCasedSnivy]

so who hasnt claimed other than PC

[DkKoba]

if koba was scum and their ability was to flip as a random townie's role that would be hilarious

i mean if anything the claim is to obscure my own flip and pretend i am a town when flipped

but like in future games for sure u cant trust this kind of roleclaim now that its an idea for setups like these lmao

[Aureal]

I find it really disappointing that our mechheads' response to my ridiculously powerful role is just "wow, scummy". No attempts to think through how to use it. I thought the ability to give a bunch of people neighborhoods and vigilante powers seemed pretty obviously something that would come from town, unless you think it's some sort of cult. We could know exactly what abilities basically everyone in the game has available at night, reducing the possibilities of who's resposible if there's say, a suspicious roleblock. Or, y'know, we could literally

end this game on Day 2

with proper use of the role and good reads.

[DkKoba]

this is unreviewed role madness u dont get cleared for role esp since this isnt even like grand idea mafia where theres a list of roles

[camelCasedSnivy]

I still dont understand the role lmao

[Aureal]

if koba was scum and their ability was to flip as a random townie's role that would be hilarious

i mean if anything the claim is to obscure my own flip and pretend i am a town when flipped

but like in future games for sure u cant trust this kind of roleclaim now that its an idea for setups like these lmao

What in blazes are you even trying to say here? Pretend you're town? This sounds like a scumclaim.

[Aureal]

this is unreviewed role madness u dont get cleared for role esp since this isnt even like grand idea mafia where theres a list of roles

YEAH NO SHIT IT'S UNREVIEWED

THIS ROLE IS OBVIOUSLY COMPLETELY UNBALANCED ESPECIALLY IN A DAY ONE MASSCLAIM

[Aureal]

I still dont understand the role lmao

I give INCREDIBLE COSMIC POWERS to anyone who wants them and can get other people who don't already have them to accept the INCREDIBLE COSMIC POWERS.

[camelCasedSnivy]

So the cosmic powers are a vig, a roleblock and a neighborize??

[camelCasedSnivy]

Seems like an Inventor except with multiple inventions at once

[Theta Alpine]

it is a partial vanillaizer+neighborizer but it gives you abilities based on how many times you use the ability
plus also it gives people hit with the ability a copy of the ability
at least if i understand correctly

[Theta Alpine]

it would count as a non-factional cult i think

[camelCasedSnivy]

i have the iq of a truck filled with nuclear waste i dont understand what the fuck "gives you abilities based on how many times you use the ability" means

[Theta Alpine]

it means you get more powers the more you use your base ability

[camelCasedSnivy]

more powers for the person with the given abilites or aureal?

[Theta Alpine]

i believe both aureal and anyone in the chain of recruits if i read correctly

[Cook]

i have the iq of a truck filled with nuclear waste i dont understand what the fuck "gives you abilities based on how many times you use the ability" means

the longer the icon of sin remains on earth the stronger he becomes

does that make any more sense

[Aureal]

it is a partial vanillaizer+neighborizer but it gives you abilities based on how many times you use the ability
plus also it gives people hit with the ability a copy of the ability
at least if i understand correctly

I don't think it really is vanillaizer, you should still have your role and any passive attributes or day actions. You just can't use its night actions, unless you get out of Amway, which is a night action that'll cost you your vote the next day (so it'll be pretty obvious if someone does it).

Like, do you guys not understand what multi-level marketing is? If I recruit Theta right now, Theta can go recruit Koba, who can recruit DE, who can recruit Ranger, etc. etc. etc. all the way through the playerlist. All of you will be in my chain of recruits which will unlock new abilities for me at the appropriate numbers. Everyone after Theta will be in her chain, and she'll get those abilities as well after just one more recruit than me, since she's my recruit so I have one more. Koba will get those abilities with two more recruits in the chain than I have. And so on.

It can do two neighborhoods a day, so we have basically infinite options here- we can have people split their chains if we want to dilute the access to power rather than one long unbroken one.

[Theta Alpine]

okay yeah that is literally just a non-factional cult the way it is described
which does in fact make it potentially extremely overpowered for town especially with the sorts of town powers currently claimed