Mini 2308 | Deal with the Devil Hydra PT

[Deal With The Devil]

I'm going to regret calling FL obvtown, but asking to get sacrificed

is

pretty obvtown.

- Alianna

[Deal With The Devil]

Well. This is going...interestingly.

- Alianna

[Alianna]

I have been adamant I feel sacrifice is really bad today.

I also don't like Aureals subtle defense of Infinity......Penguin clearly was basically mia, don't use a repp out as a defense.

Idk if I missed something, but can you quote the post where Aureal did this? I can't find it.

[Doctor Drew]

I'm going to regret calling FL obvtown, but asking to get sacrificed

is

pretty obvtown.

- Alianna

Flavor is literally playing exactly as he did in Bianco's normal game(the one with the traitor).

Albeit he has to flesh things out more this game.

This just means that I am wrong and he is scum lol(but seriously, lock him town for now)

and I will go find that Aureal quote.

[Doctor Drew]

It'd be a little odd for Penguin to vote her and then dip with her as the lead wagon though, wouldn't it?

Oops mis read it, thought she was saying that Penguin dipped as scum.

Carry on, nothing to see here.

[Alianna]

And i gave you the option to work together with it.

You said you were following the plan, and ya know what, a world of me sees that.

But are you willing to accept you made the mistake of not understanding that it was Day 2 sacrifice with the plan?

Because it seems like you’re targeting me now because you agreed to the plan, and i turned on you, when that’s specifically shown to not be the case.

Day 2 Sacrifice is BAD. It's just mechanically bad. We have to either forgo a main development project or a Bureau project in order to Sac tomorrow and it sets us too far back in gaining town power.

I don't mean I'm convinced to do Sacrifice today when I say this, but this is the only good argument for it that I've seen this game.

[Deal With The Devil]

I like meowmeow, Merlyn, FL for town.

- Alianna

[Deal With The Devil]

I like meowmeow, Merlyn, FL for town.

- Alianna

Maybe Roden too.

- Alianna

[Doctor Drew]

I like meowmeow, Merlyn, FL for town.

- Alianna

Maybe Roden too.

- Alianna

I hate that I always am worried about Merlyn lol, but she can be town for now

[Alianna]

I like meowmeow, Merlyn, FL for town.

- Alianna

Maybe Roden too.

- Alianna

I hate that I always am worried about Merlyn lol, but she can be town for now

Lol. She reminded me a bit of her towngame in Newbie 2120.

[Alianna]

i got my laptop back yippee

@fl yes, i do see why you scumread her, but we just have a very different approach to scumhunting. i'm well aware that we've been townreading a lot of level 0 scummy things, and we do need to decide on a lim pretty soon. we just have a feeling that people like you, meow, or devil are scum controlling the narrative and it's part of why we don't love the biggest wagons right now. we'll finish catching up and decide on a vote tomorrow.

What did you mean by those people are controlling the narrative? I feel like devil & FL have been pushing in different directions from meow

one or more scum players is having an outsized influence on the narrative is probably a better way to put it.

i really don't like this post - it's such a specific feeling for something so like, nebulous. it's at least true most people seem to townread me, but the idea i have control over some kind of narrative feels weird; i was opposed to the three leading wagons for most of the game, including when infinity made this post. like, the leading wagons are snivy, marci and cakez, none of whom i have ever voted or pushed for - why would a feeling i might be pushing a pro-scum narrative make you want to vote for them less, or not more? snivy voted penguin, but for his own reasons; i've never particularly felt like my opinions are being listened to or followed, except a bit of mechanics stuff. similarly, devil has a lot of posts - most of which are mechanic-y or shitpost-y - i don't think they have a lot of control over the game at all. fl could conceivably be driving the narrative, because he's loud and the thread kind of follows what he does, but neither of the other reads make any sense to me and i'm really not sure how you get a 'feeling' for something which is such, like, an arbritary and complex concept, or how you get to that feeling in the first place?

Exactly. What narrative?

Also also Alianna defended cakes again with Marci pushing there in some capacity. I get hydra dissonance but I think the falloff would have been discussed at some point between you two.

in general i'm having a hard time believing that drew and alianna are actually discussing reads outside the thread. it feels like they don't even bring up each others' reads except when asked

Were we supposed to?

958 feels really fake to us

Why though? It feels like they just picked some random post and said "fake."

Am I just OMGUSing or does Infinity's scumread on us feel made up?
I feel like I'd find these reasons weird even if they weren't on us.

[Alianna]

Also...

And i gave you the option to work together with it.

You said you were following the plan, and ya know what, a world of me sees that.

But are you willing to accept you made the mistake of not understanding that it was Day 2 sacrifice with the plan?

Because it seems like you’re targeting me now because you agreed to the plan, and i turned on you, when that’s specifically shown to not be the case.

Day 2 Sacrifice is BAD. It's just mechanically bad. We have to either forgo a main development project or a Bureau project in order to Sac tomorrow and it sets us too far back in gaining town power.

I won't say I'm in favour of D1 Sacrifice, but this is the first good argument I've seen for it this game.

- Alianna

I like the statement too. I’m not a mech person, so I was more just advocating to sacrifice day 2 for alignment reasons on me, but I’m more than happy to just live if y’all want lol

Yeah, we'd prefer you live. Devil Drew considers you locktown.

- Alianna

[Alianna]

So the second point isn't even true.

[Doctor Drew]

Pretty sure we both have said something in thread along the lines of 'let me check in with Drew/Alianna before we blah blah'

I literally was just reading these posts on thread like, wtf

[Alianna]

Pretty sure we both have said something in thread along the lines of 'let me check in with Drew/Alianna before we blah blah'

I literally was just reading these posts on thread like, wtf

Okay, good to know I'm not crazy. I'm pretty sure we've done that too.

[Alianna]

Do you want to bring it up in the public thread or should I?

[Alianna]

Just making an unofficial VC for my reference:

Infinity 324 (5): meowmeow, camelCasedSnivy, Cat Scratch Fever, SirCakez, Aureal
camelCasedSnivy (3): Deal With The Devil, Merlyn, Infinity 324
SirCakez (1): marcistar

Not voting (4): Random Nurse, Roden, Flavor Leaf, RCEnigma

[Doctor Drew]

Do you want to bring it up in the public thread or should I?

I am kinda running errands so don't have a lot of time, you can if you want

[Alianna]

Do you want to bring it up in the public thread or should I?

I am kinda running errands so don't have a lot of time, you can if you want

Will do, in a bit though.

[Deal With The Devil]

Would you vote Infinity?

- Alianna

[Doctor Drew]

Would you vote Infinity?

- Alianna

Just came in here to say their last post seemed defeated, yet still holding onto the read.

They aren't acting in good faith imo.

Hey look, we are discussing reads!! Lol

[Doctor Drew]

So yes, I actually prefer their Lim now

[Deal With The Devil]

Would you vote Infinity?

- Alianna

Just came in here to say their last post seemed defeated, yet still holding onto the read.

They aren't acting in good faith imo.

Hey look, we are discussing reads!! Lol

XD
Are you referring to 1411 or 1412?

- Alianna

[Deal With The Devil]

what are you hoping to gain from this interaction? i think you're more likely to recognize town!me by engaging us on something we haven't tried to explain yet

Why do they think I should be trying to see them as town?

- Alianna

[Doctor Drew]

idk sometimes scum just express their genuine feelings and our gut says this was one of those times ig