Veiled Committee Mafia: List Mods Edition [game over]

[Cook]

pagetop

[Cook]

FINALLY

[AniX]

Does Doomed Treestump have a stat block?

stat block?

I am trying to assess what a Doomed Treestump player, so turned, can do (and/or if Theta has access to that information).

I have information that lends itself to me very heavily believing this is a true bill claim, I am aware of another "change/modify someone else's role" mechanic.

[Doctor Drew]

why is your default that I must be trying to 'change my meta'.......and not 'hey this is a different Drew, they might be town'.

I believe you're being deliberately disingenuous.

Bingle believes you're more subdued than your normal scumgame. He wanted to hear my theory as to why. I provided it. I still believe you're in your scum meta. I didn't say you were changing your meta. Quite the opposite. I said you were avoiding doing so, while I live.

wut

Where was I being deliberately disingenuous?

And you literally said I was trying to change my meta.

You are confusing me now.

[Theta Alpine]

actually wait would miller or ascetic fall under that category of negative utility

[Theta Alpine]

a doomed treestump can post in the main thread and any threads they had access to
but cannot vote
and will die once an elimination happens

[Theta Alpine]

ascetic and miller are not things that effect the actors targeting directly
never mind that then

ascetic does affect targeting just not the actors targeting

[Theta Alpine]

anyways i asked a clarifying question of the mod so

[Ranger]

Where was I being deliberately disingenuous?

1135 and now 1153.

I didn't say you were trying to change your meta. I said you

could

.

[Ranger]

So far, I've got this, correct me if I'm wrong.

Fully Claimed?

Doctor Drew:

- Eternal Universal Backup, inherits the role of the last town player to die, for the entire game.

Theta Alpine:

Temporary treestump of those investigating as a different alignment to her, must be used within 24 hours of the player's death.

DKKoba:

Miller of some kind, flips as random role in the game until that role dies.

Bingle:

Immune townie, can't be altered in any way/shape/form, can choose between bp or ascetic.

Alisae:

1x ignite arsonist, can mark one person per night up to two, can ignite once in game killing marked targets.

Cook:

Modifier, gives random negative utility to target.

camelCasedSnivy:

3x Baker, gives out goods which can self-roleblock when eaten, baked goods can be passed on.

KatyKimFanClub:

Revealer, reveals a random player's role if killed. (Sounds like what some call the Oracle role.)

Partial Claimed:

Ranger:

Miller, details beyond unclaimed.

AniX:

Ability triggers upon performing certain actions or lack thereof during the day. Might not have fullclaimed.

Skygazer:

Gives people control of vote on even days. Takes control of actions in some unspecified way.

Unclaimed?

Random Nurse:

Unclaimed

JasonWazza:

Unclaimed

DragonEater70:

Unclaimed?

Save The Dragons:

Unclaimed

Ircher:

Unclaimed

Aureal:

Unclaimed

[Theta Alpine]

oh wow that was quick

all abilities are lost on becoming a doomed treestump except for access to pts

yes doomed treestumps do flip again

[Skygazer]

if we're full claiming i'll just be honest and say i must control my previous target's night action target on even nights. i dont get to see what their action does but they see who i target

[Ranger]

I'll say I believe I'm in the same role group as Cook and camelCasedSnivy. I won't say why yet; their claims seem to have something I believe puts them in the same writing wheelhouse as mine.

[Theta Alpine]

@theta does ur treestump ability generate a death flip?

anyways

yes the doomed treestump would flip again
but would have lost any previous abilities when they became a treestump except for pt access so

[Doctor Drew]

Where was I being deliberately disingenuous?

1135 and now 1153.

I didn't say you were trying to change your meta. I said you

could

.

You know you can use your words instead of pointing?

Also how can you you read me when you can't even read my role claim properly?

[Ranger]

Also how can you you read me when you can't even read my role claim properly?

I'm fairly certain I've read both correctly.

The last role to die, you inherit. If a cop dies N1, you become a cop. If a doc dies N2, you become a doc.

It occurs to me only now I've made a mistake in promoting massclaim; I'm beginning to suspect the scum have access to a list of all the roles not used as fakeclaims. I don't think the listmods submitted roles providing nearly no benefit to scum as exclusively the pool of scum roles. The scum roles I'd expect would be roles providing tangible benefit to scum, yet not explicitly only scum. (Think roleblocker, rolecop. Arson fits this as an example. Most claims don't.)

However, despite having not taken it into account earlier, at this stage regardless of if scum have those discards as fakeclaims, we must finish.

[Doctor Drew]

Fully Claimed?

Doctor Drew:

- Eternal Universal Backup, inherits the role of the last town player to die, for the entire game.

There definitely is something off with you Ranger.

You are being a bit.....weird.

[Theta Alpine]

oohhh

yeah that uh

that would be a really easy way to prevent a massclaim from directly rooting out scum to be honest
depends on what sort of roles town were given and not given though to be fair

[Theta Alpine]

too late to change course now though yeah
everyone must claim

[camelCasedSnivy]

It occurs to me only now I've made a mistake in promoting massclaim; I'm beginning to suspect the scum have access to a list of all the roles not used as fakeclaims. I don't think the listmods submitted roles providing nearly no benefit to scum as exclusively the pool of scum roles. The scum roles I'd expect would be roles providing tangible benefit to scum, yet not explicitly only scum. (Think roleblocker, rolecop. Arson fits this as an example. Most claims don't.)

was that the case for the last game?

[Theta Alpine]

it probably does not change that if there was an imbalance in power it will exaggerate it though

so either a game balanced in towns favor will swing even more towards town
or uh
the opposite will happen

[Ranger]

that would be a really easy way to prevent a massclaim from directly rooting out scum to be honest

Unfortunately, I only thought of it now, when it's too late to change course, after I had evidence suggesting it as so.

Alas, despite my mistake, I believe finishing remains the best option, and we can view the claims with time. If scum did lie, it will show eventually. I still believe we can reasonably deduce real claims from fakeclaims, and town roles from truthful scum roles.

[Ranger]

Fully Claimed?

Doctor Drew:

- Eternal Universal Backup, inherits the role of the last town player to die, for the entire game.

There definitely is something off with you Ranger.

Perhaps my wording was unclear. When I said 'for the entire game', it was to 'inherits the last role to die', meaning the inheriting doesn't stop after having inherited. Ergo, not keeping prior roles.

[Theta Alpine]

yeah

if it had just been one or two claimed we could maybe have walked it back but uh

yeahhhh too late at this point

[Doctor Drew]

that would be a really easy way to prevent a massclaim from directly rooting out scum to be honest

Unfortunately, I only thought of it now, when it's too late to change course, after I had evidence suggesting it as so.

Alas, despite my mistake, I believe finishing remains the best option, and we can view the claims with time. If scum did lie, it will show eventually. I still believe we can reasonably deduce real claims from fakeclaims, and town roles from truthful scum roles.

I don't trust Ranger at all.

Where is the trolling and sly humor?

This is way to clinical and sterile to be townRanger.

This whole post by her feels like it was written by ChatGPT.