Veiled Committee Mafia: List Mods Edition [game over]

[camelCasedSnivy]

rangers role and thetas could be submitted by the same listmod

[Cook]

does someone want to scumcase ranger

i feel like i'm about to have my arms cut off by a glowing orange sword by suggesting that...

pedit pagetop THIEF

[KatyKimFanClub]

Ranger and DE70 seem town to me.

[Theta Alpine]

hmm

my role description of desperate is actually slightly different from the wiki definition
given the wiki definition is i would say ambiguous as to whether it is caring about investigative results of both or not i would say that makes sense for a list mod to be a bit more declarative about it

disloyal exists for absolute alignment instead of investigated alignment anyways

[camelCasedSnivy]

sucks

i dont have a case to fit the flask in ranger's pfp with

[Theta Alpine]

so in effect your role can only be proven if there are millers

or if scum is willing to cooperate to confirm you

willing to cooperate ahahaha

scum do not get a choice in if they get treevived or not

[Alisae]

@Ranger

- Do you think there are roles that would benefit from being hidden and not claimed d1 in this game? Additionally, do you think the benefits of massclaim outweigh the benefits of those roles staying hidden?

[camelCasedSnivy]

Ranger and DE70 seem town to me.

what makes you think de70 is town

[Theta Alpine]

treevival is generally very loud so people do not think someone is rulebreaking when a dead person speaks

[camelCasedSnivy]

@Ranger

- Do you think there are roles that would benefit from being hidden and not claimed d1 in this game? Additionally, do you think the benefits of massclaim outweigh the benefits of those roles staying hidden?

my role might benefit from being hidden d1 but i dont trust myself enough to not out it on massclaim

[Theta Alpine]

the description of my role made it fairly clear that being a miller would flip it around though

that plus bingles role make me think there might be such a role that can give miller in the game
or at least was proposed

[Cook]

the description of my role made it fairly clear that being a miller would flip it around though

that plus bingles role make me think there might be such a role that can give miller in the game
or at least was proposed

after the game

i'm curious what your pm looks like

not now

i do not want modkills

[Cook]

THE CURSE OF THE ELEVENTH HOUR

IT KEEPS SHOWING UP

HOW

[Theta Alpine]

i mean

to paraphrase
it just worded it so that the hypothetical cop was investigating both me and my target instead of leaving it ambiguous

[Cook]

huh

[Theta Alpine]

and i do think the wiki definition without going further is ambiguous

it could be talking about investigative results of both actor and target
or just the investigative result of the target and the true alignment of the actor

kind of an improvable definition imo though the standard version section clarifies it as being investigative results of both so
it might be on purpose to be ambiguous so it can be used for both variants of desperate

[Theta Alpine]

from the wiki page on desperate

A Desperate action fails if a Cop would get the same result on the player and the target. Roles such as Miller and Godfather interfere with how Desperate works.

[Theta Alpine]

my track record of surviving games to the end is not that great though so you will probably get to see the wording in my role pm before the game ends

though i do have a very provable role once we get a scum flip or if i get turned into miller so
we will see

[Theta Alpine]

well
or if ranger gets killed early
might actually be disincentive for ranger to get night killed if doing it would prove that i am true claiming

[Theta Alpine]

course

if we have a janitor vig then i actually get to be somewhat useful there as well

if we suspect a death framer that can change flip alignment i can also help with that

and uhhh without being miller myself that is the extent of what i can probably actually accomplish in towns benefit

[Ranger]

@Ranger

- Do you think there are roles that would benefit from being hidden and not claimed d1 in this game? Additionally, do you think the benefits of massclaim outweigh the benefits of those roles staying hidden?

Yes to both.

There’s going to be roles which get more value hidden. Preventing early kills, allowing gambits, potentially turning soft guilties into hard, increasing success rate, etc.

I believe the benefits of massage outweigh the downsides of outing them.

Particularly as massclaim has been started already.

Whether you approve or not, once a massclaim is started, it must be finished. A half-complete massclaim is

tremendously

+scum. Because we started, we must finish, or else we get none of the benefits and get all the downsides.

[Alisae]

lazy game!!!

Ranger and Aureal are dying by fire this game

I am an arsonist.
I mark 1 target a night. I can mark 2 targets max.
I can kill all marked targets once per game.

[DkKoba]

im miller but my role doesnt say i investigate as mafia but please treestump me, it will be extremely OP

[Cook]

@Ranger

- Do you think there are roles that would benefit from being hidden and not claimed d1 in this game? Additionally, do you think the benefits of massclaim outweigh the benefits of those roles staying hidden?

Yes to both.

There’s going to be roles which get more value hidden. Preventing early kills, allowing gambits, potentially turning soft guilties into hard, increasing success rate, etc.

I believe the benefits of massage outweigh the downsides of outing them.

Particularly as massclaim has been started already.

Whether you approve or not, once a massclaim is started, it must be finished. A half-complete massclaim is

tremendously

+scum. Because we started, we must finish, or else we get none of the benefits and get all the downsides.

ranger hiding the perfect fakeclaim in her scum pt

[KatyKimFanClub]

Town revealer if I die a random person's role gets revealed to everyone.