Me: anix doesn't have reads
Anix: here are my reads
Me: no those don't count because they are nonsense. You dont have reads.
Anix: you didn't say it in the specific way I require you to say it
W/e I'm disengaging we can continue this stupid argument when I go back to voting you
Just read what this was about and I agree with StD - it's true that if you read what they said in a LITERAL way, then they've said two contradicting things. But what StD was CONVEYING is that AniX does not have any ACTUAL reads - all their "reads" are based on mostly invalid mechanical reasoning (which neither me nor StD would count as reads but more as speculations/mechsolve attempts). Therefore they are not reads, is what StD was saying.
So me using what people said and how they act to try to sort out what their role is invalid and speculation because you don't agree with it...as opposed to scumreads, well known objective standards that everyone has to be on the same page for before they are called reads.
Vote DragonEater70
. I should have stuck with my gut. Too many goofy attempts to deflect from themselves and that whole rage post was WEIRD.
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In post 510, AniX wrote:
DragonEater: Hurt Tag usage as power activator
what is this even based on
The fact multiple people have indicated they have a post based trigger (myself included, so I know there is at least one) and DragonEater's awkward dance for trying to include the tag. It was strengthened when Koba, who I was independently reading as connected to DragonEater in some way, started really getting aggressive with me RIGHT after I pointed it out. I am still not SURE of it, could legitimately be something else or nothing at all, which is why I'm voting Koba and not DragonEater, but it is Day 1 and I don't think I need to be sure of everything to still think it is worthy of bringing up and seeing what sticks.
Awkward dance? Have you been reading the thread at all? This game is STACKED with references to past games, and mainly references to Weird Dreams Mafia. And holy crap are you like blind to context or something? Do you have no sense of humor? What is this shit?
You getting THIS upset about me not believing it was just a reference instead of just being like "sorry, it was goofy to make a reference not everyone would get" (like you already did!) makes me MORE suspicious of you because it makes it seem like you thought this "It's a reference! Definitely nothing more!" was going to be a slam dunk defense of activating your role ability that nobody would possible impugn and are so very upset it got accidentally stumbled upon.
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In post 1069, Bingle wrote:I think that you have a similar enough style and presence to ETL to be able to apply my old skills with her to reading you, and that post was specifically a reach out to show I'm interested in working with you this game. Do you think I'm more or less right about that comparison?
I actually don't know ETL. I vaguely recognize you're referring to EspeciallyTheLies. I know nothing of her, so I wouldn't know if it's apt or not.
Within my capacities (I can't iso, reread, or case people rn due to rl restrictions like helping my friend), I'll work with anyone willing to work with me, you included.
Fair enough. WRT Drew, he feels like a little bit muted version of his scumgame to me. Any thoughts on why he's somehow less than I'd expect from scumdrew?
In post 1074, Ranger wrote:
Small correction, I technically did play with her twice. In the first, I was scum; in the second, she was and killed me N1. So, I've no true familiarity with her, because we never interacted much. I don't remember much from our Blitz days though, unless I actually view the game in question. Was a different us, largely.
Roger. I'm going forward on the assumption that I can read you roughly the same way and reevaluate later if necessary.
i might be warming up to drew + cook with how they both started pushing me the moment i started looking like an option
odd for me since i usually do not push people for making pushes on me but
theirs does not feel right
cooks case does feel better but i think there might be other things tying them and drew together
alter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
In post 1078, DkKoba wrote:theta and dragon are both towny ? not understanding the scumreads
Theta Alpine's playing like she does as scum, and I don't believe her claim. The latter will be more clear after a massclaim.
In post 1079, Bingle wrote:WRT Drew, he feels like a little bit muted version of his scumgame to me. Any thoughts on why he's somehow less than I'd expect from scumdrew?
He knows his scum meta and he knows this game has players who know his scum meta. In particular, I was able to correctly identify Doctor Drew was in his scum meta when other players thought he was out of it. He can try to change his meta, yet as long as I live, he has reason to respect me. My theory; he's muted because he knows he's not fooling me.
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"Interestingly though, town winrate in Blitzes has been really high."
In post 1058, Cook wrote:
now the question comes is that your read on anix
My read on AniX is that the whole "Triggered role" thing is a tinfoil, but it's an unlikely tinfoil for scum to arrive at, yes. I also think the friction between Koba and AniX is a playstyle one, not an AI one and that the push on AniX is scum cheerlead if not outright lead.
In post 1058, Cook wrote:
now the question comes is that your read on anix
My read on AniX is that the whole "Triggered role" thing is a tinfoil, but it's an unlikely tinfoil for scum to arrive at, yes. I also think the friction between Koba and AniX is a playstyle one, not an AI one and that the push on AniX is scum cheerlead if not outright lead.
so who does that make scum?
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I thought STD, but that's fairly incompatible with snivy, I think. Koba/Ali as a pair could make sense? Koba is a strong enough buddy to keep Ali happy and invested as scum, but I'm not really sold there. Youscum seems to be the pet read of everyone and their mothers, which is kind of interesting. It seems like everyone is trying to scumread you as an association with another player, and I should probably check if that's real or just me seeing the one set of trying to link you and Drew and thinking it's more prevalent than it is.
As far as cheerleaders, I haven't really taken the time to look into it.
If scum is pushing AniX, who do you think is doing so?
In post 1086, Bingle wrote:
I thought STD, but that's fairly incompatible with snivy, I think. Koba/Ali as a pair could make sense? Koba is a strong enough buddy to keep Ali happy and invested as scum, but I'm not really sold there. Youscum seems to be the pet read of everyone and their mothers, which is kind of interesting. It seems like everyone is trying to scumread you as an association with another player, and I should probably check if that's real or just me seeing the one set of trying to link you and Drew and thinking it's more prevalent than it is.
As far as cheerleaders, I haven't really taken the time to look into it.
If scum is pushing AniX, who do you think is doing so?
If scum isn't pushing AniX, why aren't they?
i haven't been noticing much of an anix push at all? i know i kinda played up theta's redirect in my scumcase against her but like
i don't see anyone pushing anix right now
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i can prove my claim very easily once we get a scum flip
sucks to whoever it is and i do not imagine they would say much but
if i get turned into miller i can do it much sooner potentially
i can trigger the ability during day even so
alter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
for a desperate modified ability it does have a very loud and public effect which is nice
sucks that it can only be used on dead people though
kind of negates a lot of the positive utility that desperate can sometimes have in other situations
alter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
i know this why do you think i have been asking to be turned into a miller
alter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum
i have only ever made it clear that my role is next to useless on its own
alter of rautherdir
as town won 5 games | lost 6 games | mislimd 3 times | dayvigged once | nightkilled 3 times | vengekilled once | survived 3 times
as scum won 5 games | lost 1 game | eliminated twice | dayvigged once | vigged once | survived once | perfect scum victory once
and if you count large normal 204 then i won that game after replacing out as scum