Mini Normal 2306: Mafia PT

[Random Nurse]

1) Looks like civil war has broken out for Town.

2) Roden's on to me.

3) Should we leave Takutai and Flavor Leaf alive as long as possible? They're at each other's throats.

[Random Nurse]

Zero reason to claim when they did.

Actively antagonistic

Calling out pushes as being bad and worthy of ignoring people fully, yet all of their “scum reads” flipped town.


Threatens the game with inactivity.

This is scum.

Flavor Leaf, despite your experience you should know this can also be TOWN.

Those behaviors do not MAKE one Scum.

[Dunnstral]

3) Should we leave Takutai and Flavor Leaf alive as long as possible? They're at each other's throats.

If we have the opportunity to eliminate them, we should

As for the civil war part, it's felt like that all game for me

[Random Nurse]

Ok, wasnt really planning to tryhard this game, just wanted a nice relaxing game to come back and get back into the swing of things, but with how things are going this game, it seems i'm going to have to do something about it as it feels like there's a chance scum are controlling the game right now.

On the subject of Random Nurse

You probably saw me mention it a few times already, but RN left us a really nice self-meta on their first post:

Meta Data

Just a heads-up: I typically struggle on Day 1 due to not having anything tangible to work with.

I work as a strictly nocturnal night nurse, so am asleep during the day. I also work 60-72 hours each week

As Town I am free to be aggressive because I legitimately don't know who is what, and I don't care about self-preservation.

As Scum I struggle to emulate the above play and frequently try to force myself to forget my role.

As Town I work best by consistent extreme engagement to generate content: it's extremely easy to do as Town and a chore for me to do as Scum because I already have insider knowledge and I'm a terrible liar. As Town it's extremely easy for me to make free-flowing-thought posts on a dime.

I don't quickhammers and appreciate intent to hammer being made first. At this point on I don't quickhammer and instead will announce intent to claim.

I prefer NOT to play using readslists due to my severe time constraints. It's easier for me to tell you how I feel about a player, and as Town if you ask me I should be able to tell you fairly soon how I honestly feel about them. If it takes awhile then I'm possibly Scum.

On Day 1 expect me to be playing based solely on gut reads and gut vibes: I have no tangible evidence to work with.

I'm making it a habit to post this post first at the start of each game, and then start reading.

My main issue with random nurse is that they dont feel aggresive as they mention, while they mention that as scum they struggle to emulate it. I've been giving them a lot of room considering we're reaching the end of deadline, just in case they are legit busy. After their first string of posts then they go into do almost nothing mode as i mentioned before:

VOTE: Random Nurse

Yeah, forgot about them, and then dont like ISO either, and remember them pinging me with the town read on Sakura and Alisae, yet 'FL is a mystery'

seems like a positioning tactic

I support this vote but not for these reasons, but they seemed to be active at first until they got stonewalled by Takutai and then they dissapeared off the thread in terms of sorting.

Spoiler: quotes

Am I crazy or does anyone else here notice that Takutai outright ignores my question?

miki's towns are calling each other town, yaaay~

alisae n sakura hana kinda look like mafia partners in some worlds too yin thinks? probably past history but interactions feel just a lil off

we wanna be buds flavor leaf!

random nurse looks town too at this point? umm, is this game just really easy or something? weird, i have autowin

Is this the same Mikhail?

Is this the same Mikhail?

They are a plural system. I believe Yin is posting right now

Like a Hydra?

I thought those weren't allowed in Normal games?

Votecount 1.7

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to hammer

votes

Takutai (6)

E-1

:

NorwegianboyEE, Saukura Hana, JasonWazza, Firebringer, Alisae, MikhailTal

osuka (2):

Roden, Random Nurse

Not Voting (2):

Dunnstral, Takutai

MikhailTal (1):

osuka

Flavor Leaf(1):

Flavor Leaf

Firebringer (1):

Hu Tao

Day One ends in (expired on 2023-07-28 05:00:00)

Is it possible you could keep those who are not voting separate and at the bottom, please?

Also, despite Takutai being unwilling to explain himself when I asked him a simple question on why he found those two other players Scummy, I don't really see any reason why he's already at L-1. It seems way too easy to me.

UNVOTE: osuka

Rereading Takutai's ISO.

Is everything RN's done in the last 2 IRL days.
VOTE: Real Nurse

After which, they went V/LA and i went "Okay, maybe they are legit busy, i'll see what happens when they come back", so i kept waiting for their V/LA to end, which was supposed to be Sunday morning, on when the posted this:

I'll be poking my head in tonight.

This happened at sunday morning in my timezone so i was under the assumption this was them ending their V/LA and saying they'd post during the night. After which i waited for a post during the night, and... nothing since then.

Could potentially give them more time, but the clock is ticking, and i'm not sure if they stalling until night 1 at this point or just legit busy.

On the subject of Alisae

I keep flip flopping here a lot, but what set me off mostly was when I was trying to reaction test RN, at... sunday night where i assumed is when they would be reading/catching up, and this happens:

Well since FL didnt reply i'll just do it then. Sorry it took a bit.

Dayvig: Random Nurse

when you're so desperate you're faking dayvigs

Like why, why interrupt me from trying to get anything?, They seem to townread Nurse, but despite me commenting on my read being partly based on their first post's self-meta at least moer than once, doesnt seem to be engaging me on it either, feels like they are trying to bury it out or something.

Mostly going by these weird connection i'm seeing between Alisae and RN, but i do admit, i'm not that sure on Alisae being scum, their pivot onto Norwee that came out of the blue and flipped their read is nothing short of suspicious and i dunno if it's something Alisae would do as scum.

On the subject on Flavor Leaf.

Being honest here, literally the only reason i have for this is how he suddenly agrees with Alisae on Norwee, maybe this is some Level 100 play i'm not seeing coz i'm a noob at this game, but it gives me weird feelings about it all the same.

End words

I'm not expecting people to follow my intuition or logic here, since i'm bad at explaining things anyway and i'm not into faking confidence to get my scumreads pushed, but i figured it's better if i let my thoughts out than keep them to myself.

VOTE: Random Nurse

Yeah, so, uh, I should probably tell you more about my personal life because it makes everything make sense. I work a sh*t-ton of hours as a stepdown/ICU nurse, and after work I'm typically a dead husk the night after (I work nights). And that night I said I was going to poke my head in I legit fell asleep at night too and was out cold for another 8 hours. I had worked 10 out of 11 12-hour shifts. So yeah, I'm working like a fiend: ask a nurse how relaxed they feel the day/night after.

I really need to amend that yellow meta post because it is NOT accounting for the wear and tear these shifts and classes are doing to me. WHEN I HAVE TIME AND ENERGY I like to get really into the game and start going nuts with engagement: my main is from 2013 and I COULD share it but I'm not sure that would break any rules. I should amend it to note that my strength is---when I can do it---get really aggressive and into the game. If you want a hint I modded one of the largest games in this site.

I don't see the point of posting your yellow meta post as either alignment honestly. People aren't going to trust your self meta but they will distrust you when you are not matching up to it.

A better angle to take is how do you play as mafia and how is this game different, if you want to self meta. Right now some people are saying this game fits your scum meta but I have not personally (and likely will not) looked at your history to see how you play as mafia vs town.

Yeah, I get this part.

I didn't account for how ridiculously busy I'd be working the floor when making that yellow meta post. If I make it again it'll be changed quite a bit.

Regardless of alignment I'm dealing with too much to even read the game much.

[Dunnstral]

You should respond to me in the main thread instead of here

[Firebringer]

I don't know who would be a good night kill right now.

I think we are doing well with distancing at least for me and dunny

[Random Nurse]

It never fucking fails I get voted on/limmed while I'm V/LA and can barely post. So much fucking bullshit. Beginning to hate this game.

If you have to bus me so we can win go for it you two. I'm preoccupied with two super-sick patients and can't actively play the game right now.

[Firebringer]

thats how it works sometimes.
we will see how this goes, i actually don't think u will get elimmed today
but i kind of don't see us getting that many townpoints for bussing u.
If dunn switched to hard buss maybe, but me? Unlikely

[Firebringer]

Like theres no strong point to bussing if ur not going to look super town imo.
Because people start looking for bussers almost immediately after flips

[Random Nurse]

I knew FL was going to come after me, and for BS reasons no less, and I can't fight back because of IRL work.

Hands are tied at the moment.

[Random Nurse]

Dunnstral, is it possible you could engage more in the thread?

If I keep ignoring it they're gonna get suspicious eventually. I don't want you limmed, period.

[Random Nurse]

I'm happy to kill you because I genuinely believe the thread is better off with you dead and flipped. It's not because you're unpleasant, I don't rly know how to describe it beyond "loud and fucking annoying."

LMAO DAMN.

[Random Nurse]

Ok I actually don't care anymore, I auto launch people who try gas light me. Fuck off with that shit.

FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

[Random Nurse]

I'm thinking I want to lim Flavor Leaf next.

[Random Nurse]

*NK

[Random Nurse]

Alisae,I think it's just Takuta/Random.

I think Roden is just correct this game, and theyre getting targeted because of it.

Definitely need to NK him Night 2.

[Dunnstral]

If I get eliminated they will probably get a lot of flak for that

[Dunnstral]

If Hu Tao lives today we should consider killing Flavor Leaf though. They aren't cop, obviously, but it will look like Hu Tao killed them because they thought they were cop. And then after Hu Tao flips maybe Takutai will take that blame as they also would have motive to kill there.

[Random Nurse]

If I get eliminated they will probably get a lot of flak for that

If Hu Tao lives today we should consider killing Flavor Leaf though. They aren't cop, obviously, but it will look like Hu Tao killed them because they thought they were cop. And then after Hu Tao flips maybe Takutai will take that blame as they also would have motive to kill there.

I don't want to sound like I jerk but I feel both you and Fire should be slightly more active. It's been hellish trying to manipulate the game by myself. Predictably Alisae came right back around to voting me, and I need her to be distracted.

Trying to find this balance of looking Town but I absolutely don't want either of you limmed. I kind of feel the four Millers being in the game is a tad unfair, in that Town for the most part is basically confirming them: Alisae refuses to even look at them, which is SO annoying. Regardless if I die Day 2 or not, I think Flavor needs to be killed off: get rid of the claimed Millers since they're not appropriately suspecting them.

[Firebringer]

i don't manipulate people
i let them fuck up.

much easier

[Dunnstral]

I am hoping that my vote stirs the pot and shifts focus away from Random Nurse.

[Dunnstral]

I don't want to sound like I jerk but I feel both you and Fire should be slightly more active. It's been hellish trying to manipulate the game by myself. Predictably Alisae came right back around to voting me, and I need her to be distracted.

i don't manipulate people
i let them fuck up.

much easier

I'm an opportunist.

[Random Nurse]

Is it too risky for you Dunnstral and me to shift to Takutai? It'd probably look too desperate?

If we power lim Takutai we'd have to fight like hell next Day, but numbers would be more in our favor.

[Random Nurse]

I think Nurse is trying to make it look like they're aligned with me if they're mafia

Fair enough. I need to work on my subtlety.

[Firebringer]

I think sheep is either the cop
Or flavor is and just faking his result for bravodo