Veiled Committee Mafia: List Mods Edition [game over]

[Cook]

i don’t think the listmods have THAT much malice in their hearts to force annoying post restrictions on people

then again i am also

yknow

(my lawyer has advised me not to say anything further to not incur a post restriction)

[Bingle]

Not acting like a newbie, acting like EVERYONE ELSE is a newbie

Nah that's Koba.

It's like me acting like everyone else should learn how to use goddamn power roles.

[Cook]

ooh i keep stealing pagetops

[camelCasedSnivy]

cook is pagetop vigilante ggez

[Theta Alpine]

there are no rules on any mechanic not existing except for any factions beyond town and mafia
post restrictions are thus possible
however if we assume each of the listmods went with a theme and only one of them did post restrictions
that is still only a max of four post restriction roles if all of them got picked which is not a massive amount

and then there is me with effectively vanilla town unless i get turned into a miller somehow
like really
even if i am somehow recruited by scum my ability continues to not really be useful for my wincon in that event
so i do think there are a few negative utility roles out there probably

[DkKoba]

Ranger
AniX
Skygazer
Cook
JasonWazza
DragonEater70
JasonWazza
DkKoba
Save The Dragons

These are my reads so far. If your name isn't present it means you didn't leave an impression.

I am actually scumreading STD.

VOTE: STD

Wazza hasn't even posted mate

[DkKoba]

there are no rules on any mechanic not existing except for any factions beyond town and mafia
post restrictions are thus possible
however if we assume each of the listmods went with a theme and only one of them did post restrictions
that is still only a max of four post restriction roles if all of them got picked which is not a massive amount

and then there is me with effectively vanilla town unless i get turned into a miller somehow
like really
even if i am somehow recruited by scum my ability continues to not really be useful for my wincon in that event
so i do think there are a few negative utility roles out there probably

Yup. I'm in the Miller-esque role category

[Theta Alpine]

there is a role besides something giving me miller that would also make my ability very interesting and useful actually
but i will have to wait and see if that role exists

[DragonEater70]

These are my reads so far. If your name isn't present it means you didn't leave an impression.

JasonWazza
DragonEater70
JasonWazza

Why am I between two JasonWazzas?

I am actually scumreading STD.

VOTE: STD

That's legit, but please explain the scumread cause I can't see it.

[DragonEater70]

the main takeaway from the coffee tell is the premise is that people use the fact that "they havent drinken coffee yet" to excuse poor posting as scum. ergo i was making a joke that you were making an excuse as to why your play may be weaker, ergo less accurate. Like, sorta like "sorry I made that bad post/bad push, i wasn't 100% at the time". hard to explain tbh its a whole vibe

@DragonEater: Coffee tell.

Oh okay thanks.

[DkKoba]

(Ironic that bingle is side pushing me bc that was my second scumread but now it's gonna look like I omgused that read )
I will say the reason is that I didn't get good vibes from bingle thumb twiddling mechs here more than anything after being on a TM team with him and all, wasn't going to say anything bc obviously that's plausibly still town, just something to consider in their holistic play as a minus.

[AniX]

i don’t think the listmods have THAT much malice in their hearts to force annoying post restrictions on people

I don't think it is FORCED. I think it is "If you post in this way, you get access to this ability." with the user free to choose to activate or not activate that as their needs require. I think DkKoba could stop at any time, I think they just want their ability. I think the same about Aureal and the informerial bit they are doing.

how is anix obvtown either

First, we ignore literally every mechpost, because mechposts have nothing to do with alignment, but rather mechanical intelligence, and mechanical intelligence is not AI. Second, we realize that AniX comes from a time when the Earth had yet to cool and the atmosphere was still mostly sulfur, and so their posting also needs to be viewed through that lens where post restrictions and mechsolves are common place and that's just how town is supposed to approach the game. Third, we ask ourselves "Does scum really fake a readslist with two players who haven't posted surrounding a player who has if they're tryharding". Fourth we realize that if we look tryhard up in the dictionary there's a picture of AniX staring at a picture of Taylor Swift.

Ani is crazy performative here, but that's more because it's Ani than any actually alignment indicative thing and Koba pushing the slot as surface level is actually skeevy as fuck.

This is the first game of its kind, to my knowledge, where multiple experts in Mafia were called to each create roles, independently of one another, and then a game was run around those roles but also I suspect were encouraged to be a bit cheeky about it. The mechanics don't go together, the mechanics are wacky, and we can exploit the cracks of both those attributes we'll be in a better place as a town. Especially on day 1, night 0 where few if anyone has any information beyond vibes.

Not acting like a newbie, acting like EVERYONE ELSE is a newbie

Nah that's Koba.

It's like me acting like everyone else should learn how to use goddamn power roles.

Yeah, but they being artificially nice about it.

[Theta Alpine]

hmm maybe i should not have claimed

cause i am realizing that i would not have claimed what i did in a reviewed game cause i would have an assumption there were interactions with my role that made it
well
actually useful
but i can probably guess whoever submitted my role also made other roles that would interact with it so unless mine was the only one from them that made it in then uh

well anyways i did not claim that much so
i will now not elaborate further on what i am though until it becomes beneficial to do so

and i will make reads in a separate post in a bit

[Aureal]

how is anix obvtown either

First, we ignore literally every mechpost, because mechposts have nothing to do with alignment, but rather mechanical intelligence, and mechanical intelligence is not AI. Second, we realize that AniX comes from a time when the Earth had yet to cool and the atmosphere was still mostly sulfur, and so their posting also needs to be viewed through that lens where post restrictions and mechsolves are common place and that's just how town is supposed to approach the game. Third, we ask ourselves "Does scum really fake a readslist with two players who haven't posted surrounding a player who has if they're tryharding". Fourth we realize that if we look tryhard up in the dictionary there's a picture of AniX staring at a picture of Taylor Swift.

Ani is crazy performative here, but that's more because it's Ani than any actually alignment indicative thing and Koba pushing the slot as surface level is actually skeevy as fuck.

This is true, post restrictions were more commonplace in 2005. There was some crazy ones in games I played back then (and faked ones) but I've only seen one in my games this year and it was optional to activate a night ability.

[Theta Alpine]

though with someone claiming an interaction with inventor or such as well then maybe getting it out that i become a lot more powerful if i become a miller is a good thing

[Theta Alpine]

oh

i thought of a second role that would make my ability useful
hmm

[DragonEater70]

First, we ignore literally every mechpost, because mechposts have nothing to do with alignment, but rather mechanical intelligence, and mechanical intelligence is not AI. Second, we realize that AniX comes from a time when the Earth had yet to cool and the atmosphere was still mostly sulfur, and so their posting also needs to be viewed through that lens where post restrictions and mechsolves are common place and that's just how town is supposed to approach the game. Third, we ask ourselves "Does scum really fake a readslist with two players who haven't posted surrounding a player who has if they're tryharding". Fourth we realize that if we look tryhard up in the dictionary there's a picture of AniX staring at a picture of Taylor Swift.

Yeah, this is why I am not scumreading AniX even though I disagree with 80% of their reads and arguments.

Also I think Bingle is very townie for making this post.

[DkKoba]

First, we ignore literally every mechpost, because mechposts have nothing to do with alignment, but rather mechanical intelligence, and mechanical intelligence is not AI. Second, we realize that AniX comes from a time when the Earth had yet to cool and the atmosphere was still mostly sulfur, and so their posting also needs to be viewed through that lens where post restrictions and mechsolves are common place and that's just how town is supposed to approach the game. Third, we ask ourselves "Does scum really fake a readslist with two players who haven't posted surrounding a player who has if they're tryharding". Fourth we realize that if we look tryhard up in the dictionary there's a picture of AniX staring at a picture of Taylor Swift.

Yeah, this is why I am not scumreading AniX even though I disagree with 80% of their reads and arguments.

Also I think Bingle is very townie for making this post.

What about the post is townie, and can you summarize what Anix has done this game?"
I do not think they have said much of value so I'm frankly confused as hell where people are getting this towny anix vibe unless they aren't really reading the posts ?

[DkKoba]

Like I'm pretty sure the disagreement is likelier to come from the fact they just don't have the same POV as you as an uninformed townie and .. yeah.

Be more critical, don't give free pases for people spewing nonsense takes ty

[Skygazer]

vibes

[Skygazer]

tbh i resonate with what bingle said about anix as well

but vibes

[AniX]

See? Look at this. Every post of theirs is a "Sonic Sez" in this game.

[DkKoba]

name 3 substantive thing anix has said

[DragonEater70]

but now it's gonna look like I omgused that read

The fact that you are worried about that is not +town. In fact, it's very very -town.

VOTE: Koba

Also I don't like that they don't even explain the SR on Bingle.

[DragonEater70]

I will say the reason is that I didn't get good vibes from bingle thumb twiddling mechs here more than anything after being on a TM team with him and all, wasn't going to say anything bc obviously that's plausibly still town, just something to consider in their holistic play as a minus.

Oh nvm I suck at reading comprehension.