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[iamveryhappy]

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[Deltabreedy]

Any chance of some effort from you, happy? A skim of your ISO shows that you've done functionally nothing.

[iamveryhappy]

tbh I shouold
but I'm gonna go sleep first then post after that
see you in approximately 10 hours

[OopsieDaisy]

Only other significant opinion I have is that I'm still upset that Daisy is using a meta read on Page 4 and that it gained traction. Maybe a little +scum as of response to 263?

Would it help your read if I told you that in mini norm 2302 I, as town, also brought up meta points to create/inform pushes at the start of the game?

[Elements]

Daisy, have you ever rolled scum in a forum game?

[iamveryhappy]

would it help you if I told you as town my posting is always erratic?
no
it's just anti-town
same with the post above
no
it's the start of game where we don't have info

[OopsieDaisy]

Daisy, have you ever rolled scum in a forum game?

I think once? But that was in 2014/15 times it's an ancient game that I ended up getting modkilled in cause I accidentally sent a message meant for the scum skype chat in the website's general skype chat lmao

[OopsieDaisy]

Wildly enough I think scum still won that game, but I don't rly fancy going back and looking to check cause my deadname's plastered all over it

[Elements]

Oh damn
That's before you knew me!

[OopsieDaisy]

Oh damn
That's before you knew me!

Yea I said it was ancient :3

[OopsieDaisy]

@Elements Your vote is on RN right now, any particular reason why?

[Deltabreedy]

would it help you if I told you as town my posting is always erratic?
no
it's just anti-town
same with the post above
no
it's the start of game where we don't have info

Can you stop prod-dodging and either contribute or go to sleep as you said an hour ago?

[Elements]

@Elements Your vote is on RN right now, any particular reason why?

I wanted to change it and RN's pfp caught my eye

[PenguinPower]

Why'd you want to change it?

[KatyKimFanClub]

Only other significant opinion I have is that I'm still upset that Daisy is using a meta read on Page 4 and that it gained traction. Maybe a little +scum as of response to 263?

Would it help your read if I told you that in mini norm 2302 I, as town, also brought up meta points to create/inform pushes at the start of the game?

It makes me feel better, yes.

[KatyKimFanClub]

I'm getting some bad vibes since coming off V/LA from KKFC, I don't see much justification for 'openwolfing' which is their justification for scumreading Elements and IAVH and since it's not backed up with a vote, it comes across as cautious scum to me rather than cautious townie.

I don't scumread either really. If you mean justification for why I think they're openwolfing, it just looks to me like neither is trying to look very town. iavh with the setup speculation involving non-Normal roles and then posts like 115 or 141 that get pretty self-referential and play into the existing trope? Elements I just didn't really get the intent to hammer post and then subsequent disengagement from the game (maybe just busy or timing, idk)

If you meant justification for why I scumread them for openwolfing, I don't really? I figure for iavh that he gets scumread regardless of alignment quite often and so there's no need to put energy into looking town. For elements I'm not sure, but the "intent to hammer" post seems brazen enough that I don't know how often scum does it this early into the game.

A lot of people are getting on me for not voting, but I don't really have a counter wagon prepared yet. I'll vote when I'm more ready.

[Elements]

Why'd you want to change it?

No particular reason, just felt like it

[Elements]

I have noticed there's only 3 and a half days left so I should probably get some reads

[OopsieDaisy]

UNVOTE: Kitty
VOTE: Random Nurse

You mentioned how shit was getting serious and that we were moving out of RVS in your last post. Any particular reads you have now that there's content to sink our teeth into?

[KatyKimFanClub]

I have noticed there's only 3 and a half days left so I should probably get some reads

So you intended to hammer me without any reads?

[KatyKimFanClub]

VOTE: Elements

If the idea was to provoke a reaction or a defense, then you should probably have considered the fact that there was already significant pressure on me. Seems like a lazy attempt to get on a wagon with the fallback defense of "reaction farming". Especially after you admit you don't have any reads.

[Elements]

VOTE: Elements

If the idea was to provoke a reaction or a defense, then you should probably have considered the fact that there was already significant pressure on me. Seems like a lazy attempt to get on a wagon with the fallback defense of "reaction farming". Especially after you admit you don't have any reads.

I was never going to hammer you. And there are reactions to look at. E.g. the unvoting from you was quite slow and no one was rushing to your defence.
Daisy unvoted which I expected, and then re-voted you.
PP was the first to unvote you, mid conversation. But again, that was very just "I want to finish this chat" and nothing to do with your slot. (Although with my knowledge of PP I wouldn't put it past him to position himself to be able to do that)
So from the reactions to my "intent to hammer" I don't think that your scum partner was either active, or on your wagon around that time. Which is the majority of the player base. Making me think you're probably just town with an easily scumread play style, as you've been saying. Which is something I can empathize with as someone who used to get regularly voted out day two due to play style

[KatyKimFanClub]

Seems legit enough.

UNVOTE:

[Skygazer]

VOTE: Elements

If the idea was to provoke a reaction or a defense, then you should probably have considered the fact that there was already significant pressure on me. Seems like a lazy attempt to get on a wagon with the fallback defense of "reaction farming". Especially after you admit you don't have any reads.

I was never going to hammer you. And there are reactions to look at. E.g. the unvoting from you was quite slow and no one was rushing to your defence.
Daisy unvoted which I expected, and then re-voted you.
PP was the first to unvote you, mid conversation. But again, that was very just "I want to finish this chat" and nothing to do with your slot. (Although with my knowledge of PP I wouldn't put it past him to position himself to be able to do that)
So from the reactions to my "intent to hammer" I don't think that your scum partner was either active, or on your wagon around that time. Which is the majority of the player base. Making me think you're probably just town with an easily scumread play style, as you've been saying. Which is something I can empathize with as someone who used to get regularly voted out day two due to play style

Plenty of room for a partner in all of that; KKFC's theoretical partner could have just been frozen, bussing, not wanting to be obviously counterwagoning, simply absent, etc. I don't really agree with your gamestate analysis essentially, although I agree KKFC could easily just be scummy looking town. Generally scum don't defend scum that often anyways imo, especially at the point where KKFC was at. With the position KKFC was in me thinks scum would wanna keep their distance which would match the reactions you described.

[Elements]

Any scum partner on the wagon could easily have hopped off saying something like "still a lot of the day left, I don't want a hemmer yet" which is sort of what pp did. But only after there was interaction activity happening