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Post Post #2050 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:10 pm

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In post 2035, Sakura Hana wrote: So anyway, back to Nurse.
Nurse is NOT town.

The case isnt about activity, the lack of activity is WHY i've taken so long coz I wanted to give them time to do something in case i was wrong.
Nothing happened, they've done nothing.
And what did they do when they posted? "Oh im being limmed for inactivity".
How do they know this? And more importantly if they are active enough to know they are being limmed even if they thought is for activity means they are reading, why not do something else? like "X is still scum" or "X is town for Y".
Doesnt seem to be following their supposed town meta.

Was waiting to see their answer because if they were gonna be around then i could engage them and ask them questions but dissapeared again.

This leaves us with the issue of why didnt they do anything when they were here.
Either A) They are too busy to read the thread, then why did they know or assume why they were being eliminated. Possible: A scum partner told them to react.
or B) They were reading... but then why did they do that, if they had time to read enough to notice that, then why not drop a read on someone.

This is mostly what i'm concerned about regarding Nurse atm.
the post right above it is fire voting nurse
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Post Post #2051 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:11 pm

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In post 2044, Alisae wrote:
In post 2033, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2032, Alisae wrote:
In post 2025, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2021, Alisae wrote:
In post 2019, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2014, Alisae wrote:
In post 2011, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2009, Alisae wrote:
In post 2007, Flavor Leaf wrote:

The way they reacted under pressure is not a scum Osuka.
what is town osuka and what is wolf osuka



what purpose does Osuka as a wolf have to react the way they did? it makes no sense.
What is it you're exactly referring to?
the dumb aggro is not coming from scum

like im not positive positive, but enough for me to not really want it day 1.

dumb aggro can be from scum, but it was just dumb dumb aggro if theyre scum
I am missing context and posts
i dont care enough to defend them level with posts, but enough to not want to vote there myself.

is the level of defense im gonna give them.
I mean I think them asking if I am a miller is genuinely suspicious and them playing it off as a reaction test that wasn't really well thought out is also suspicious.
I don't rly get what people see in this player that's townie and I think there are a lot of other players that are just way more townie than osuka
that's fair. I looked back at their ISO and saw that.

I think that mightve been before I realized you were Miller too.
anyway look bro let's say you're right osuka is town
what the fuck is going on in this game
what do you mean?

I really don't think this game's that confusing.

We're just in no flip territory.
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Post Post #2052 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:12 pm

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In post 2041, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 505, Random Nurse wrote: At this point I'm caught up reading.

I'm Townreading Sakura and Alisae due to Scumhunting and engagement, but I am a bit apprehensive because they are voting Dunnstral who hasn't even posted anything yet.

Flavorleaf I can't tell either way.

Hu Tao I'm slightly Townreading.

Mikhail is bizarre. He's not playing to help Town, but he's not necessarily Scum either. Can't read him. He did mention getting policy limmed in a prior game: I'd want to know his alignment in that game.

Osuka slot gives me gut Scum vibes, because he's basically reacting to Mikhail's bizarreness but isn't doing much else, which makes me wonder why.

Dunnstral hasn't posted yet so I can't even form a read.

The rest are Null (Jason, Takuta, Roden, Fire).

I'd like Osuka to actually do something other than react to Mikhail. What are your reads?

VOTE: Osuka

this is the post i didnt really like by Random that really set me off this way.

Everything felt so fabricated like they were positioning their reads.
I liked that post because of everything that lead up to it.
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Post Post #2053 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:13 pm

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Firebringer, Random, Dunnstral, Taku

can contain all the scum and this game makes sense.

or 1 scum is in Norwegian/Sakura/Alisae, and that can just be figured out later.

Either way, I don't think this game is that confusing.


Sheep and Jason are my top town reads right now.
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Post Post #2054 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:13 pm

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In post 2047, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 2044, Alisae wrote: anyway look bro let's say you're right osuka is town
what the fuck is going on in this game
Who are your townreads right now.
Random Nurse
Flavor Leaf
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Firebringer
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Post Post #2055 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:13 pm

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In post 2049, Roden wrote: The wackiest Normal set up I've played in was a Pooky game with nearly unintelligble roles, three Millers doesn't feel all that wacky in comparison
Assuming 3 millers is all we have.

I honestly don't think it is, because i have been getting PR vibes outside of Sheep/Alisae/FL
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Post Post #2056 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:13 pm

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In post 2052, Alisae wrote:
In post 2041, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 505, Random Nurse wrote: At this point I'm caught up reading.

I'm Townreading Sakura and Alisae due to Scumhunting and engagement, but I am a bit apprehensive because they are voting Dunnstral who hasn't even posted anything yet.

Flavorleaf I can't tell either way.

Hu Tao I'm slightly Townreading.

Mikhail is bizarre. He's not playing to help Town, but he's not necessarily Scum either. Can't read him. He did mention getting policy limmed in a prior game: I'd want to know his alignment in that game.

Osuka slot gives me gut Scum vibes, because he's basically reacting to Mikhail's bizarreness but isn't doing much else, which makes me wonder why.

Dunnstral hasn't posted yet so I can't even form a read.

The rest are Null (Jason, Takuta, Roden, Fire).

I'd like Osuka to actually do something other than react to Mikhail. What are your reads?

VOTE: Osuka

this is the post i didnt really like by Random that really set me off this way.

Everything felt so fabricated like they were positioning their reads.
I liked that post because of everything that lead up to it.
if they are scum and you are town, they were playing up to you and Sakura, so that makes sense.
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Post Post #2057 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:14 pm

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In post 2048, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2042, Takutai wrote: Flavor you're either scum or actively sabotaging town at this point and I don't think I really care which. I'd rather hammer flavor leaf over random nurse because right now I'm seeing him as an obstacle to get where we need to get.
i'm not even the one who got the wagon moving. only person who sheeped me was osuka.

Where's your heat for Sakura? She got Firebringer and Roden to follow her onto it.

You're targeting me for pushing when there are 4 other people doing so.
I'm targeting you for wanting an elim outside of the winnig POE of sakura, firebringer, norwee, alisae, osuka.

I'm targeting you for shielding osuka when it's unwarranted and enforced merely by the hope you place in the strenght of your word.

I'm targeting you because you're not solid in a game that's solved.
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Post Post #2058 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:15 pm

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In post 2057, Takutai wrote:
In post 2048, Flavor Leaf wrote:
In post 2042, Takutai wrote: Flavor you're either scum or actively sabotaging town at this point and I don't think I really care which. I'd rather hammer flavor leaf over random nurse because right now I'm seeing him as an obstacle to get where we need to get.
i'm not even the one who got the wagon moving. only person who sheeped me was osuka.

Where's your heat for Sakura? She got Firebringer and Roden to follow her onto it.

You're targeting me for pushing when there are 4 other people doing so.
I'm targeting you for wanting an elim outside of the winnig POE of sakura, firebringer, norwee, alisae, osuka.

I'm targeting you for shielding osuka when it's unwarranted and enforced merely by the hope you place in the strenght of your word.

I'm targeting you because you're not solid in a game that's solved.
you are incredibly naive if you truly think this game is solved.
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Post Post #2059 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:15 pm

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In post 2054, Alisae wrote:
In post 2047, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 2044, Alisae wrote: anyway look bro let's say you're right osuka is town
what the fuck is going on in this game
Who are your townreads right now.
Random Nurse
Flavor Leaf
Hu Tao
Firebringer
JasonWazza
Takutai
Roden
Sheepsaysmeep
Dunnstral
So your PoE comes down to me, norwee and osuka?
Damn, now im even more confused why you dont want to eliminate me or take the deal.
Seems like you got it all solved.
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Post Post #2060 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:17 pm

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Seems to be you're townreading scum or are scum yourself Ali~
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Post Post #2061 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:17 pm

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In post 2055, JasonWazza wrote:
In post 2049, Roden wrote: The wackiest Normal set up I've played in was a Pooky game with nearly unintelligble roles, three Millers doesn't feel all that wacky in comparison
Assuming 3 millers is all we have.

I honestly don't think it is, because i have been getting PR vibes outside of Sheep/Alisae/FL
I have assumptions about the set up but nothing I want to share yet.

Also the Pooky game I was talking about:

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Post Post #2062 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:18 pm

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it makes no sense for ScumAlisae to post that many town reads. I think they just truly think they're solving on Day 1.

Nobody here is solving on Day 1, and if they somehow do, it's luck.
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Post Post #2063 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:19 pm

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In post 2062, Flavor Leaf wrote: it makes no sense for ScumAlisae to post that many town reads. I think they just truly think they're solving on Day 1.

Nobody here is solving on Day 1, and if they somehow do, it's luck.
K, then they are townreading scum and are too tunnelvisioned.
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Post Post #2064 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:19 pm

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In post 2053, Flavor Leaf wrote: Firebringer, Random, Dunnstral, Taku

can contain all the scum and this game makes sense.

or 1 scum is in Norwegian/Sakura/Alisae, and that can just be figured out later.

Either way, I don't think this game is that confusing.


Sheep and Jason are my top town reads right now.
Yeah screw this I'm done with you you're empty here, you feel fake, nothing you say has the weight or spirit or depth I would except from town.

VOTE: flavor leaf


I don't think I care anymore people can do whatever I'm okay with being killed to so I can lurk and see who flips what and whether town manages to snap awake. Exciting.

My spiritual vote is still on osuka tho
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Post Post #2065 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:19 pm

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In post 2053, Flavor Leaf wrote: Firebringer, Random, Dunnstral, Taku

can contain all the scum and this game makes sense.

or 1 scum is in Norwegian/Sakura/Alisae, and that can just be figured out later.

Either way, I don't think this game is that confusing.


Sheep and Jason are my top town reads right now.
Sheep and Jason are town, cool.
Dunn posts like he doesn't have an agenda
Nurse feels like they were hunting
I have a hard time seeing Takutai's post coming from a wolf.
Roden has felt decently townie throughout the game. Them wanting to fake a green check on me is probably something that is done by town.
Gun to head Hu Tao is town.
Fire MAYBE I don't rly have a good reason to TR Fire aside from vibes. I think there is probably a mafia in {Fire, Norwee}

Norwee is obvscum.
Sakura is losing her mind which is ????????

This just leaves me you osuka
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Post Post #2066 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:21 pm

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In post 2058, Flavor Leaf wrote:

you are incredibly naive if you truly think this game is solved.
No, you're either shielding scum or you just can't accept that you're dead wrong either way see if I care I know a win when I see it. If I die at night whatever.
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Post Post #2067 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:23 pm

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In post 2065, Alisae wrote:
In post 2053, Flavor Leaf wrote: Firebringer, Random, Dunnstral, Taku

can contain all the scum and this game makes sense.

or 1 scum is in Norwegian/Sakura/Alisae, and that can just be figured out later.

Either way, I don't think this game is that confusing.


Sheep and Jason are my top town reads right now.
Sheep and Jason are town, cool.
Dunn posts like he doesn't have an agenda
Nurse feels like they were hunting
I have a hard time seeing Takutai's post coming from a wolf.
Roden has felt decently townie throughout the game. Them wanting to fake a green check on me is probably something that is done by town.
Gun to head Hu Tao is town.
Fire MAYBE I don't rly have a good reason to TR Fire aside from vibes. I think there is probably a mafia in {Fire, Norwee}

Norwee is obvscum.
Sakura is losing her mind which is ????????

This just leaves me you osuka
I'm done here I'll just assume you're town even if you're still in my POE and hope you can counter flavor because I suddenly feel I'm wasting my life on nothing here.
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Post Post #2068 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:23 pm

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In post 2064, Takutai wrote: Yeah screw this I'm done with you you're empty here, you feel fake, nothing you say has the weight or spirit or depth I would except from town.
i aint even fake when i am actually scum
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Post Post #2069 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:23 pm

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@Taku - Alisae sees me as the ObvTown I am here
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Post Post #2070 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:23 pm

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In post 2067, Takutai wrote:
In post 2065, Alisae wrote:
In post 2053, Flavor Leaf wrote: Firebringer, Random, Dunnstral, Taku

can contain all the scum and this game makes sense.

or 1 scum is in Norwegian/Sakura/Alisae, and that can just be figured out later.

Either way, I don't think this game is that confusing.


Sheep and Jason are my top town reads right now.
Sheep and Jason are town, cool.
Dunn posts like he doesn't have an agenda
Nurse feels like they were hunting
I have a hard time seeing Takutai's post coming from a wolf.
Roden has felt decently townie throughout the game. Them wanting to fake a green check on me is probably something that is done by town.
Gun to head Hu Tao is town.
Fire MAYBE I don't rly have a good reason to TR Fire aside from vibes. I think there is probably a mafia in {Fire, Norwee}

Norwee is obvscum.
Sakura is losing her mind which is ????????

This just leaves me you osuka
I'm done here I'll just assume you're town even if you're still in my POE and hope you can counter flavor because I suddenly feel I'm wasting my life on nothing here.
you're overeacting.
He'll come around to it or get shot.
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Post Post #2071 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:24 pm

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It might not be this day phase.
It might not even be the next day phase.
But day 3 or 4, he'll come around to it
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Post Post #2072 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:32 pm

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In post 2065, Alisae wrote: Sakura is losing her mind which is ????????
? i'm not losing my mind tho?
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Post Post #2073 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 3:38 pm

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In post 2071, Alisae wrote: It might not be this day phase.
It might not even be the next day phase.
But day 3 or 4, he'll come around to it
Yeah sure. I mean it makes me paranoid. Roden/Alisae/Flavor Leaf regression levels of paranoid. Shouting that Random Nurse is nothing but a pr hunt paranoid. But I'm having burger and I think I'll try to be happy here whenever.
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Post Post #2074 (ISO) » Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:35 pm

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In post 2035, Sakura Hana wrote: So anyway, back to Nurse.
Nurse is NOT town.

The case isnt about activity, the lack of activity is WHY i've taken so long coz I wanted to give them time to do something in case i was wrong.
Nothing happened, they've done nothing.
And what did they do when they posted? "Oh im being limmed for inactivity".
How do they know this? And more importantly if they are active enough to know they are being limmed even if they thought is for activity means they are reading, why not do something else? like "X is still scum" or "X is town for Y".
Doesnt seem to be following their supposed town meta.

Was waiting to see their answer because if they were gonna be around then i could engage them and ask them questions but dissapeared again.

This leaves us with the issue of why didnt they do anything when they were here.
Either A) They are too busy to read the thread, then why did they know or assume why they were being eliminated. Possible: A scum partner told them to react.
or B) They were reading... but then why did they do that, if they had time to read enough to notice that, then why not drop a read on someone.

This is mostly what i'm concerned about regarding Nurse atm.
Did Random Nurse bring up their own meta unprompted and then not follow it?

That seems weird but not really a scum move to me if it went down like that. I'd expect them to be more aware of their play after they posted that, not to play like their scum meta.

As for them being active enough, when you quote their post it gives them a notification that links to where you quoted. And you did quote their post in your case, so what happened is they went there and responded to that and the posts following that.

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