Mini 708 - Cheat Mafia (GAME OVER)

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #127 (isolation #0) » Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:11 pm

Hullow all, I'm replacing someone.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #129 (isolation #1) » Tue Dec 02, 2008 1:26 pm

TWO millers???

My policy of lynching all millers (and un-nightkillable townies BTW) is in need of revision. I suppose that it might fit with the cheat theme. However. Are there differences between the miller claims?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #137 (isolation #2) » Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:15 am

I'm replacing. Can someone fill me in on whether I should look for scum or ace the test? I happen to be a mythology buff.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #146 (isolation #3) » Thu Dec 04, 2008 3:00 pm

Just making sure, the next vote for Der Hammer is a L-1, right?

It seems like Der Hammer is scum that has given up on the game.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #157 (isolation #4) » Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:25 pm

WOW... a lynch on page 7 ???

Criminy that's got to be a record for the site. Mind you, he did claim 'miller' so I won't be shocked if he turns up scum.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #160 (isolation #5) » Fri Dec 05, 2008 2:27 am

Why did you tell DH all your answers???? He claimed MILLER!!!!! What were you thinking????

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #185 (isolation #6) » Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:16 am

@ Dattebayo - you stole Coron's avatar???

@armlx - yes, why?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #187 (isolation #7) » Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:23 am

My gut instinct is to disbelieve ALL miller claims.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #202 (isolation #8) » Mon Dec 15, 2008 5:48 am

sirdanilot is town.

I like his case against animopherv.

This game is CHEAT mafia. It's one time where having a miller makes sense. Though clearly we can't be keeping a miller to end game. We'll need a utility lynch or vig kill.

vote: animorphrev

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #214 (isolation #9) » Tue Dec 16, 2008 6:40 am

I don't get your answer to number 4.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #256 (isolation #10) » Sun Dec 21, 2008 8:05 am

I fully support an animopherv lynch.

Everything about him is dodgy and shifty.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #276 (isolation #11) » Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:41 am

Someone lied about question 7.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #280 (isolation #12) » Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:41 am

I got two different answers to 7.

One I got by peeking on Dattebayo's test.
The other was given to me by Xtomx.

Someone lied to Xtomx.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #282 (isolation #13) » Wed Dec 31, 2008 11:35 am

malthusis wrote:
I got two different answers to 7.

One I got by peeking on Dattebayo's test.
The other was given to me by Xtomx.

Someone lied to Xtomx.
It could be possible that someone lied to Dattebayo as well.

I have reasons to think that's not the case.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #284 (isolation #14) » Thu Jan 01, 2009 5:05 am

Natirasha wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:
malthusis wrote:
I got two different answers to 7.

One I got by peeking on Dattebayo's test.
The other was given to me by Xtomx.

Someone lied to Xtomx.
It could be possible that someone lied to Dattebayo as well.
I have reasons to think that's not the case.
Which are...

I got Dattebayo's answers through the mod because he wasn't sharing. Given that he had only two answers, I suspect he wasn't sharing with anybody. The two answers might be from his PM.

I got Xtomx's answers directly from him. Those may be tainted. He exchanged with people. Some of which may be the Miller's scumbuddies.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #297 (isolation #15) » Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:42 am

GhostWriter wrote:I didn't read it correctly, since an actual miller cannot have scumbuddies. My mistake.

Oh, so you actually believe the miller claim?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #299 (isolation #16) » Sun Jan 04, 2009 3:39 am

sirdanilot wrote:I would love to explain what is going on right now but I'm having far too much fun. Please go on.

If you're waiting for me to catch up you'll be waiting for eternity.

Spill the beans, Sir Dan.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #302 (isolation #17) » Sun Jan 04, 2009 5:08 pm

sirdanilot wrote:Nat may be slightly overdefending on the trading with xtoxm part, and is majorly underdefending on the playstyle part. wondering why

What does Occam's razor dictate?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #305 (isolation #18) » Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:42 am

malthusis wrote:Occham's Razor dictates that the simplest idea must be true. This means that instead of having all sorts of assumptions, you use the simplest truth (ie. Nat is scum).

My thoughts exactly.

SirD seems to disagree.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #314 (isolation #19) » Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:32 am

Why is the miller still alive?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #316 (isolation #20) » Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:29 am

Let's hope they are on board with today's programme.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #339 (isolation #21) » Sun Jan 11, 2009 4:34 am

Suddenly I'm hugely confused.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #349 (isolation #22) » Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:29 am

sirdanilot wrote:It would be quite a stretch for a nat-scum to say that his miller status was gone, because then an investigative role would check on him and if he would have found a guilty he would have claimed.

Are you saying that Nat is fakeclaiming scum, yes or no?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #359 (isolation #23) » Wed Jan 14, 2009 12:30 pm

Also waiting on Nat's replacement.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #380 (isolation #24) » Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:36 am

Well I'd like to know if Nat got that answer from someone else or was lying.

Waiting on Nat's replacement...

tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap tap

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #396 (isolation #25) » Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:41 am

Not me.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #415 (isolation #26) » Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:03 am

Master Ruck wrote:Well, I said I'd do a brief reread and for now it's just included an isolation read of Jahudo and Electra before him. My vote on you was because I saw you going on about confirmed and wrong answers and the way you persisted in it for a while made me think scum, though now I'm not so sure. However, Electra has done you no favours. His very first post was him suggesting Death Millers which I believe has been said that it's never a good thing to discuss or imply or something. Also, his last posts were during the "Vote Ani" stage and while he fairly unvoted to give ani a chance to talk and discuss the possible issue of the number of answers he had, El later votes Ani with that being the whole content of his post.

Does this sound like mutual bus'ing?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #429 (isolation #27) » Wed Jan 28, 2009 1:45 pm

Jahudo wrote:DGB, who is your top suspect? You've mentioned that occam's razor points to Nat as lying about that #7 answer and you've wondered why "the miller is still alive?" but you haven't voted for him or directly said you think Nat was scum. You also haven't presented any other case so what do you think about the cases being discussed?

My policy is to lynch all millers. In my experience, claimed millers are upwards of 80% scum.

I didn't vote for Nat? I was sure I did.

vote: Nat's replacement (UROE?)

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #462 (isolation #28) » Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:13 am

Well isn't that an interesting development.

Last night, I received the ability to pick the locks on student lockers. I rummaged through Axelrod's locker, and found a firearm, a bag of weed, $1000, a nudie calendar and no textbooks.

Normally I'd just go ahead and lynch Axelrod, but I'm split between Axelrod and MasterRuck.

Either Master Ruck is insane, which I doubt, or a bold gambiting scum. I tend to believe it's the latter.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #466 (isolation #29) » Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:21 pm

Jahudo wrote:@DGB: How did you manage to pick the lock?

It says 'bolt cutter.'

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #467 (isolation #30) » Sat Feb 07, 2009 2:24 pm

Jahudo wrote:Why did you choose Axelrod?

Besides Nat, who I found suspicious on account of his miller FAKEclaim, no one really stood out. Usually, that means that the scum team is doing a good job blending in. I thought Axelrod would be the kind of player to be able to pull it off.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #472 (isolation #31) » Sat Feb 07, 2009 4:28 pm

GhostWriter wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:
Jahudo wrote:@DGB: How did you manage to pick the lock?
It says 'bolt cutter.'
That, in no way, resembles picking a lock. That's cutting a lock. The two aren't really related.

I went by memory when I used the word 'picking' but the word is bolt cutter. I had to check what that looked like with google images.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #479 (isolation #32) » Sun Feb 08, 2009 7:35 am

I don't mind claiming, I'm the Poor Little Rich Girl.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #482 (isolation #33) » Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:14 pm

Jahudo wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:I don't mind claiming, I'm the Poor Little Rich Girl.
Is that a power role?

No. Only a flavor.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #491 (isolation #34) » Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:48 am

Jahudo wrote:@DGB: Did you receive a role name for your acquired power?

I did. Thief.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #492 (isolation #35) » Wed Feb 11, 2009 11:56 am

Jahudo wrote:
"What am I going to do? They didn't find anythng in his locker - only a violin, bows, and sheets of music? I can't say that he's a bad kid! I can't say anything. What am I going to do?"

Good catch.

Probably everyone has something different in their locker, and if I would have gotten the power earlier and used it on that player, those are the items I would have found.

A far-fetched explanation would be that the thief ability comes with a miller drawback, but I re-read my PM and there's definitely no hint of that. So cop powers may come with sanity issues, IF Master Ruck is telling the truth.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #494 (isolation #36) » Wed Feb 11, 2009 2:51 pm

Jahudo wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:
Jahudo wrote:@DGB: Did you receive a role name for your acquired power?
I did. Thief.
Why would a rich girl need to be a thief? Check and mate.

Obv the power you gain and the role you have are not necessarily related. Unless my daddy is Bernie Madoff, haha.

Jahudo wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:Last night, I received the ability to pick the locks on student lockers. I rummaged through Axelrod's locker, and found a firearm, a bag of weed, $1000, a nudie calendar and no textbooks.
The thief claim holds up with using bolt cutters to break into people's lockers. I see that connection.

But you never officially said that your power confirmed Axelrod was scum. So does it? If not, it's flavor cop which could have a draw-back if Axel is pro-town but has an excuse for the gun and weed.

That's correct. I am not given alignment.

However, the name of the Mafia seems to be "Druggie" so the weed is pretty damning.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #496 (isolation #37) » Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:38 pm

GhostWriter wrote:This is quite simple. DGB is obviously lying. A rich girl, who happens to gain the powers of a thief? Mistaking lock PICKING with using bolt CUTTERS? Everyone knows what lock picking is, and can assume, roughly, how it is done; people know, through sheer common sense, that bolt cutters cut, and do not pick.

Look, scum.

I can't quote my PM, and I went by memory. Later I checked, and it was bolt cutter.

Are you protecting your buddy?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #498 (isolation #38) » Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:05 pm

GhostWriter wrote:No, I'm trying to wrap the bow on the present box you've already placed yourself in for us.

You are quite impervious to obvious common sense, and opportunistic to boot.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #500 (isolation #39) » Wed Feb 11, 2009 4:45 pm

Jahudo, what do you think of GW?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #502 (isolation #40) » Thu Feb 12, 2009 3:48 am

Jahudo wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:Jahudo, what do you think of GW?
I don't think Ruck would get a paranoid/insane power off playing the game well, so where would GW scum fit into Ruck and Axel scum with DGB town scenario?

But think of this. A cop investigation at endgame, when few people are left, is like shooting fish in a barrel. The scum doesn't have time to discover a cop, it's like, almost a free dead scum for the town. And the way we have to earn investigations over time, guarantees that we have no powers early on, but acquire them in end game.

So maybe to balance things off, two investigations were given last night. One insane cop, and one thief. If the mod had done it otherwise, it wouldn't be much of a game, would it?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #513 (isolation #41) » Sat Feb 14, 2009 4:07 am

Jahudo makes a lot of sense.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #540 (isolation #42) » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:43 am

Answer 4C was the answer I received in my PM when I joined.

In other news, I just realized that I forgot to vote for Axelrod earlier in my excitement. While I've never heard of an 'insane' thief, I've heard of insane cops, and since I know Master Ruck is either lying or insane...

vote: Axelrod

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #545 (isolation #43) » Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:15 am

GhostWriter wrote:DGB, you could not possibly have checked anyone with your ability, since you attempted to cheat off of me last night. Since I can place alerts on everyone, I caught you attempting to cheat off of me, thus canceling out your claim of using an ability last night. The only one lying is you.

You, my friend, are lying. I made no attempt to cheat off ANYONE.

Town; after you lynch Axelrod tomorrow, lynch GhostWriter. Beware of insane investigations.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #552 (isolation #44) » Tue Feb 17, 2009 9:48 am

Good job town, better luck tomorrow scumpals, haha.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #696 (isolation #45) » Wed Apr 01, 2009 1:19 am

Good job town, and Axelrod did a great job keeping the scum in the game until the very end!

NOTE TO EVERYONE: If you're my buddy, do not claim miller, I will bus you.