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[Flavor Leaf]

That would be because you are mafia.

we talked about this

im miller

[MikhailTal]

I have obtained

hard]/i], not soft, information that indicates that you are not Town Miller. I hard claim power role. If anyone would lend that any credence, please vote on Flavor Leaf.

[NorwegianboyEE]

This is the logical conclusion of Alisae's perspective. It is unfortunate that I am a power role and an asset to town, as I can no longer actively participate. I have established nobody will trust me, so I can trust nobody. Therefore I will modify my approach, and attempt to reach reflective equilibrium starting from the bottom up, working from Alisae's perspective that only mafia will want to interact with me. I will conclude everyone is untrustworthy one by one, and the final few to remain still cognisant of my insight must necessarily lean scum. This will be the final bit of information I attempt to provide to town, now that my slot is poisoned.

Ok, i don't really get it. But if it's not for some kind of personal reason which i thought at first i guess it's fine.

[Roden]

This is turning into a huge distraction and i think the slot might be somwhat useful if left alone so i'm gonna focus on every other slot and just assume it's town for now.

This is a townie reaction, or at least I agree with the thinking behind it.

[Roden]

Of course the moment I say that, Mikhail asks for potential Cops to claim lmao

[Random Nurse]

At this point I'm caught up reading.

I'm Townreading Sakura and Alisae due to Scumhunting and engagement, but I am a bit apprehensive because they are voting Dunnstral who hasn't even posted anything yet.

Flavorleaf I can't tell either way.

Hu Tao I'm slightly Townreading.

Mikhail is bizarre. He's not playing to help Town, but he's not necessarily Scum either. Can't read him. He did mention getting policy limmed in a prior game: I'd want to know his alignment in that game.

Osuka slot gives me gut Scum vibes, because he's basically reacting to Mikhail's bizarreness but isn't doing much else, which makes me wonder why.

Dunnstral hasn't posted yet so I can't even form a read.

The rest are Null (Jason, Takuta, Roden, Fire).

I'd like Osuka to actually do something other than react to Mikhail. What are your reads?

VOTE: Osuka

[Random Nurse]

I have obtained

hard]/i], not soft, information that indicates that you are not Town Miller. I hard claim power role. If anyone would lend that any credence, please vote on Flavor Leaf.

So is this a serious statement or not?

[NorwegianboyEE]

The rest are Null (Jason, Takuta, Roden, Fire).

Does that include me as well or do i simply not exist?

[Roden]

I agree with those points about Osuka actually

VOTE: Osuka

[Random Nurse]

The rest are Null (Jason, Takuta, Roden, Fire).

Does that include me as well or do i simply not exist?

I actually forgot you were in this game.

[MikhailTal]

I have worded

every single statement

I have made this game with intent.

[Flavor Leaf]

I have obtained

hard]/i], not soft, information that indicates that you are not Town Miller. I hard claim power role. If anyone would lend that any credence, please vote on Flavor Leaf.

i'm all for it.

but after I flip town Miller, do the Cop thing I mentioned please.

[Flavor Leaf]

If we decide to go forward with doing the Miller claim, do so without getting any other wagons in this game.

You take me out, stay with absolutely zero information here.

and Cop Takutai.


Then, you begin tomorrow with every single person in the game saying "I copped Takutai. They were (town or scum)." you can choose which one, townies.

Then you find a different scum without full claiming cop.

This way if Cop ever dies, you know what Takutai result was without Cop having to claim.

[JasonWazza]

Just going to point out to everyone that Mikhail is referencing an ongoing game, and we should avoid discussing stuff regarding it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Has this strat ever been used in a game before?
And is it actually useful?

[Radical Rat]

In my first game, I was voted by policy. The feedback I was given could be boiled down to that I was too wordy, and too imprecise, and was largely unrelated to alignment. This game I am making a conscious effort to be concise, and establish clear boundaries for my positions.

#260 #253 #176 #177 #54

At least five people so far have publicly expressed sentiments intended to minimise the value of my perspective, with pure optics - all things that could be best left to oneself, entirely unnecessary to bring forward to the gamestate. Consider reading JasonWazza's approach to engaging with me, if you would like insight as to how to be more respectful in the future.

Please avoid referring to ongoing games, as per site rules. Even though you are dead, wait until the game officially ends before saying anything outside of that game's official threads

[Radical Rat]

Votecount 1.4

With

13

alive, it takes

7

to hammer

votes

MikhailTal (2):

JasonWazza, osuka

Flavor Leaf(3):

Flavor Leaf, NorwegianboyEE, MikhailTal

Dunnstral(3):

Sakura Hana, Firebringer, Alisae

osuka (2):

Roden, Random Nurse

Not Voting (3):

Hu Tao, Dunnstral, Takutai

Day One ends in (expired on 2023-07-28 05:00:00)

[JasonWazza]

UNVOTE: MikhailTal
VOTE: Osuka

[Random Nurse]

In my first game, I was voted by policy. The feedback I was given could be boiled down to that I was too wordy, and too imprecise, and was largely unrelated to alignment. This game I am making a conscious effort to be concise, and establish clear boundaries for my positions.

#260 #253 #176 #177 #54

At least five people so far have publicly expressed sentiments intended to minimise the value of my perspective, with pure optics - all things that could be best left to oneself, entirely unnecessary to bring forward to the gamestate. Consider reading JasonWazza's approach to engaging with me, if you would like insight as to how to be more respectful in the future.

Please avoid referring to ongoing games, as per site rules. Even though you are dead, wait until the game officially ends before saying anything outside of that game's official threads

WAIT, he's already dead?

[Random Nurse]

Scratch that.

[MikhailTal]

I see. I suppose there is little point in saying much more then. I have made my position clear.

[Flavor Leaf]

I see. I suppose there is little point in saying much more then. I have made my position clear.

eh, you could claim what info you would have that would imply there is no miller.

I have proof that is not the case, but you can't expect people to believe it off nothing.

[Flavor Leaf]

if you had built up trust, maybe, but nonetheless, i am miller.

[MikhailTal]

I see no further avenue to foster trust with town. As Alisae has correctly surmised, only mafia is willing to engage with me at this point. I will concede that point and minimise engagement for the remainder of the day, understanding it only furthers your agenda.

[Flavor Leaf]

I see no further avenue to foster trust with town. As Alisae has correctly surmised, only mafia is willing to engage with me at this point. I will concede that point and minimise engagement for the remainder of the day, understanding it only furthers your agenda.

Alright, post game, if you’re town, you gotta reanalyze and take some accountability this game.