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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:43 am

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Like thats another reason why that question rubs me the wrong way because it feels like you've displayed no inclination whatsoever to put in any work to actually figure out what the right coalition of names should be to the point where your most substantive contribution to that discourse is mainly just saying "oh I'd vote for this as a joke" but then you want to get in the weeds about my coalition thoughts in particular all of a sudden? Nah, b. It's busy work. You don't actually care about the answer.
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:45 am

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a) yes. i never said you only scumread two people. your post only lists two and so if there's another i was curious who it was. hence the question

b) you gave a list. it was a list composed of reads. none of those reads gave an indication that you would disagree with the coalition. hence the question

c) it felt like you were taking what i thought was a really basic question of "elaborate on that please" as a personal attack and refusing to answer it for some reason. im sorry if i read too much emotion into it but i do feel that a lot from you
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:48 am

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In post 450, Thestatusquo wrote: Like thats another reason why that question rubs me the wrong way because it feels like you've displayed no inclination whatsoever to put in any work to actually figure out what the right coalition of names should be to the point where your most substantive contribution to that discourse is mainly just saying "oh I'd vote for this as a joke" but then you want to get in the weeds about my coalition thoughts in particular all of a sudden? Nah, b. It's busy work. You don't actually care about the answer.
if you have issues or questions about my reads you are welcome to ask about them? im confused

i don't know why me having fun and not being super serious mode so far means that it is not okay for me to ask questions of people in order to get a better read on the game
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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:49 am

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In post 451, fireisredsir wrote: c) it felt like you were taking what i thought was a really basic question of "elaborate on that please" as a personal attack and refusing to answer it for some reason. im sorry if i read too much emotion into it but i do feel that a lot from you
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:51 am

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In post 449, Thestatusquo wrote: I also feel like the way you're approaching the whole coalition building process is incredibly scummy. It feels like you're not taking it seriously and you want to just pass it off like oh haha I'll vote for whatever when I think town you would be much more interested in buckling down and actually considering whether that coalition you just said "I would potentially vote for shits and giggles" is a good one or not.

But I'm seeing literally zero thought process like that from you.
the coalition name as provided by hellbooks is shits. i attached giggles to that bc i thought it was funny and it made a grammatically confusing sentence which i also thought was funny. i did not mean that i would vote for it as a joke

the inclusion in that coalition which i have the most issue with is isis but i still would probably vote for it at the end of the day bc i don't feel like im making it in and so ill have to make some compromises somewhere and i don't really have that confident of a read on isis anyway

so my reaction to seeing that coalition was "huh that's surprisingly not bad actually and i would not be surprised if that's one that wins, and i wouldn't mind if it did"
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:51 am

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In post 453, Thestatusquo wrote:
In post 451, fireisredsir wrote: c) it felt like you were taking what i thought was a really basic question of "elaborate on that please" as a personal attack and refusing to answer it for some reason. im sorry if i read too much emotion into it but i do feel that a lot from you
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ok ty. i will try not to take things that way
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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:52 am

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You should want me in the coalition so we can play together longer fire :)
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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:53 am

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but it wouldn't it be more fun if you're in the fun car with me and ari?!
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:57 am

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I am not ever voting for a coalition without me in it and I am kinda shocked that people would consider any coalition that doesnt include the only person they can assume is town in it this early.
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:58 am

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ari and fire both being like oh I wont be in the coalition is super sus because to me it feels like the kind of thing scum might do because they're worried about being seen as too confrontational whereas town would fight for their own inclusion.
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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:03 am

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i don't really ever fight for myself. i will primarily vote for coalitions that have me in them but i assume those won't win so i am anticipating having to compromise
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:04 am

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in the previous coalition game i think it was a p similar situation and i voted for a coalition that didn't have me in it
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:09 am

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Wouldn't you horse trade your own seat for 2 seat preferences
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:09 am

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Maybe that's cocky
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:12 am

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on further reflection i am worried about being too confrontational however this has nothing to do with my alignment
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:53 am

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In post 459, Thestatusquo wrote: ari and fire both being like oh I wont be in the coalition is super sus because to me it feels like the kind of thing scum might do because they're worried about being seen as too confrontational whereas town would fight for their own inclusion.
well if me/fire are the scum why wouldnt you want to be in the fun car with us :)
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:56 am

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In post 441, Thestatusquo wrote: I think ari and fire are most likely to be scum.
this is convenient because I kind of think you and fire are the scum team so if the three of us are in the fun car together than we can win if either of us are right!
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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:58 am

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i don't think that you two are the scumteam sadly
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:59 am

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who do you think is the scum team?
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:05 pm

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i don't think my reads are stable enough yet for me to be in a place where im guessing at teams
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:12 pm

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but guessing at teams is fun so now im thinking about it

i think if you're scum then there's a bunch of possibilities. isis is maybe the too easy answer

one team that popped into my head was skitter/tris bc i think skitter seeming somewhat resigned to being outside was surprising to me. i think she wouldn't do that as scum with very many people though but if it was anyone i think it would be if she was with a consensus townread? i don't really actively scumread either of these tho

bulge could also be scum with basically anyone

sheep idk lol

isis i think if scum just wants to go in the coalition so maybe that is motivated by being with someone expected not to make it like bulge or someone kinda content to be left out like skitter or you. but i think skitter would want to push a little harder there bc i don't think isis is a lock to make it in rn
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:16 pm

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ok ari is lock scum. Less sure on fire.
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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:16 pm

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I wish I was scum with Isis
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:23 pm

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In post 471, Thestatusquo wrote: ok ari is lock scum. Less sure on fire.
oh? explain your thought process on that please.
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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:24 pm

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somehow im still confused every time how baltar found his way into this game

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