Mini 687 - Time Abuse Mafia (Game Over in Epic Fashion)

[MafiaSSK]

Yeah. We need to lynch Netlava before he selfdestructs.

[Vi]

I still don't believe Netlava is scum, nor do I believe that the people on his wagon are all or even mostly Town.

However, considering that four of the ten players in this game are inactive, I sense that whether I hammer Netlava or not, the end result will be the same; Town doesn't have a chance until some replacements come in. Until then, I will stay true to what I believe.

[Netlava]

Picked up prod. Uh, I'm town, therefore I can't self-destruct. Will make a more in-depth response later.

forbiddan/qwints/rosswilliams are the scum. Book it!

[qwints]

I'm here. I'm not sure why it's so obvious that I'm supposed to be lynched. Netlava's pure joy at getting the double vote is scummy.

I also know that Netlava's claim that he can't self-destruct b/c he's town is false.

[forbiddanlight]

I'm here. I'm not sure why it's so obvious that I'm supposed to be lynched. Netlava's pure joy at getting the double vote is scummy.

I also know that Netlava's claim that he can't self-destruct b/c he's town is false.

I don't understand this. Aren't we lynching Nat?

Picked up prod. Uh, I'm town, therefore I can't self-destruct. Will make a more in-depth response later.

forbiddan/qwints/rosswilliams are the scum. Book it!

And the WIFOM begins.

[forbiddanlight]

EBWOP: I meant Netlava, not Nat. Vowels hate me.

[Vi]

I also

know

that Netlava's claim that he can't self-destruct b/c he's town is false.

orly

And the WIFOM begins.

And:
*the tunnel vision continues.
*the scum pushing the obv-doublevoter continues.
Pick one!

[forbiddanlight]

*the tunnel vision continues.

By the way, IGMEOY for guarding your scumbuddy.

orly

Um yeah. Everyone should know this, if I'm reading the rules correctly

[Natirasha]

Picked up prod. Uh, I'm town, therefore I can't self-destruct. Will make a more in-depth response later.

forbiddan/qwints/rosswilliams are the scum. Book it!

netlava. Fullclaim. Now.

[Vi]

*the tunnel vision continues.

By the way, IGMEOY for guarding your scumbuddy.

Doesn't he have to flip scum first?
And why, exactly, do I have a good reason to guard someone who's in optimum bussing position right now?

orly

Um yeah. Everyone should know this, if I'm reading the rules correctly

I suppose I'd have to ask what it was qwints "knew", that he had no time dilation device or that he was scum.
However, Netlava has already claimed vanilla + Objekt (objekt is still undefined). So I highly doubt that qwints "knows" anything.

Last, if Netlava were scum and had an out... wouldn't he have, y'know,

already used it

instead of leaving us here to squabble over whether we should lynch him, given that a lynch would ruin everything he's done scumside?

[forbiddanlight]

Doesn't he have to flip scum first?
And why, exactly, do I have a good reason to guard someone who's in optimum bussing position right now?

Because you said that

I suppose I'd have to ask what it was qwints "knew", that he had no time dilation device or that he was scum.
However, Netlava has already claimed vanilla + Objekt (objekt is still undefined). So I highly doubt that qwints "knows" anything.

As far as I could tell qwints was saying Net DID have a TDD. But yeah, I agree

Last, if Netlava were scum and had an out... wouldn't he have, y'know, already used it instead of leaving us here to squabble over whether we should lynch him, given that a lynch would ruin everything he's done scumside?

Depends on how things work. There are any number of reasons why he might not want to suicide. And also, you do realize that we are less likely to lynch him if he doesn't do anything since people will think just like you are now.

[Vi]

Doesn't he have to flip scum first?
And why, exactly, do I have a good reason to guard someone who's in optimum bussing position right now?

Because you said that

Oh come now, you know I'm not an evil mastermind until someone hands me the mod hat

Last, if Netlava were scum and had an out... wouldn't he have, y'know, already used it instead of leaving us here to squabble over whether we should lynch him, given that a lynch would ruin everything he's done scumside?

Depends on how things work. There are any number of reasons why he might not want to suicide. And also, you do realize that we are less likely to lynch him if he doesn't do anything since people will think just like you are now.

Mmm, enjoy your backpedaling~

I'd like to wait until Netlava and the two replacements show up before doing anything major, but I'm not sure if we'll have that luxury.

[forbiddanlight]

Mmm, enjoy your backpedaling~

Backpedalling? Where? I certainly don't see any. And since you apparently don't believe in examples...

[Netlava]

First off,

I feel like it's best to keep everyone alive and contributing as long as possible.

i think thats why we should quicklynch so we can keep the game moving as fast as possible with as few vortexes as possible

Contradiction.

Also, RossWilliams, you didn't answer the question.

Distracting from what? Objekt touching? And why do you think it wasn't useful?

To sum things up, what I'm getting from RossWilliams is a blatant lack of interest in scumhunting once he finds a way to land his vote, going back into vague generalities mode.

Which is why someone should lynch netlava NOW. Or see if he kills anyone. Then we have WIFOM to deal with *rolls eyes*

Nice preemptive "Wifom!"

And the WIFOM begins.

You seem pretty certain that you know I can't self-destruct.

I also know that Netlava's claim that he can't self-destruct b/c he's town is false.

Explain please.

Netlava, your actions unnecessarily provoked people yesterday. That's anti-town.

Explain this.

netlava. Fullclaim. Now.

Descendant of the tsars. I get no powers, but the hopes of obtaining some. Role PM notes that a tsar related event may occur. No additional objekt powers.

And, on the issue of wifom, consider it from a risk reward standpoint instead of screaming wifom without looking it into the details.

[Vi]

Mmm, enjoy your backpedaling~

Backpedalling? Where? I certainly don't see any. And since you apparently don't believe in examples...

Exmples are not the Soviet way! You listen to authority on pain of death!

*serious modo*

That was a response to the people laying on the heavy pressure OMG LYNCH NETLAVA ASAP NOW NOW NOWASLK;DFK;ADF;CAPSLOCKASDFKJASE... but then I notice that you're the singular person who also added the option of not doing so. So to that end, I misdirected that barb somewhat. I still think you have a good chance of being teh skumzorz.

[Netlava]

Double post = double vote

Vote: forbiddan

x2

I'm here. I'm not sure why it's so obvious that I'm supposed to be lynched.

I think the awkward wording results from avoidance of typing the words, "I'm scum."

But to answer your question, you were on my radar for a while for your general lurking but not posting. Plus, you made a comment against forbiddan earlier, but you avoided elaborating for the longest time. Your "in hopes of preventing a no-lynch" is inconsistent with your D2 opening, which was more of a "I'm convinced that netlava is scum" sort of thing.

Speaking of forbiddan, what are your thoughts on forbiddan and rosswilliams. I noticed that no one has commented on my ultra strong cases. Everyone's thoughts?

[Netlava]

Whoops, missed another thing.

The exhortion to lynch, targetting me for weak reasons.

I believed you conceded this point earlier, but now you're still using it to make your list look longer.

The long drawn out WoT argument I had with him felt fake on his side, like no emotion.

This is weird. You accused me earlier of following an "appeal to emotion," but now I have no emotion. Plus, you apologized for getting emotional.

He gloated about getting the double vote.

Not scummy obviously.

[qwints]

I know that some town roles have TDD. So it's not true that one doesn't have a device because they are town.

[forbiddanlight]

And, on the issue of wifom, consider it from a risk reward standpoint instead of screaming wifom without looking it into the details.

I see the reward as great. You convince town not to lynch you, you get more kills

This is weird. You accused me earlier of following an "appeal to emotion," but now I have no emotion. Plus, you apologized for getting emotional.

You don't have to be emotional to appeal to emotion.

Not scummy obviously.

Is to. And that's all this argument will amount to.

I believed you conceded this point earlier, but now you're still using it to make your list look longer.

prove it

You seem pretty certain that you know I can't self-destruct.

No. I'm certain you CAN self destrcut. Where do you get this?

That was a response to the people laying on the heavy pressure OMG LYNCH NETLAVA ASAP NOW NOW NOWASLK;DFK;ADF;CAPSLOCKASDFKJASE... but then I notice that you're the singular person who also added the option of not doing so. So to that end, I misdirected that barb somewhat. I still think you have a good chance of being teh skumzorz.

Ok.

Anyway, you are wrong.

I know that some town roles have TDD. So it's not true that one doesn't have a device because they are town.

This is basically what I thought.

Speaking of forbiddan, what are your thoughts on forbiddan and rosswilliams. I noticed that no one has commented on my ultra strong cases. Everyone's thoughts?

Your ultra weak scum cases?

[Vi]

Speaking of forbiddan, what are your thoughts on forbiddan and rosswilliams.

I noticed that no one has commented on my ultra strong cases. Everyone's thoughts?

Your ultra weak scum cases?

I'm interested in the answer to this question. (Yes, what is your opinion on yourself? Sub qwints in for your own name.)

Ok.

Anyway, you are wrong.

Perhaps about you. But the others on the Netlava wagon?

[melikefood]

The library is gonna close in 9 minutes.
I won't have interwebs until Wensday.

Inactivity Hammer!

Vote: Netlava

[Vi]

And now I remember why lynching melikefood was once a popular idea.
f-light, your reluctance to hammer him D1 is duly noted.

[Grandfather Time]

Netlava has been lynched, he was a Descendent of the Tsars, Loyal. Night ends on the 3rd of December.

[Grandfather Time]

You have actions, you send them in, I make it day. This is how mafia works. Make it work, people.

[Grandfather Time]

It's day.

I am having trouble finding a replacement for Cruciare, if any of you can recruit a friend to play, it would be appreciated.