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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 4:55 pm

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votecount 1.2
  • Ircher [3]:
    imaginality (), JasonWazza (), biancospino ()
    Aliana [1]:
    Doctor Drew ()
    imaginality [1]:
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    JasonWazza [1]:
    Merlyn ()
    Merlyn [1]:
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    no elimination [1]:
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    not voting [1]:
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    it takes 5 votes to put someone in the box

    deadline:
    (expired on 2023-06-30 17:07:12)
Spoiler: votelog
Doctor Drew votes Aliana ()
JasonWazza votes Doctor Drew ()
imaginality votes Ircher ()
Aliana votes Aliana ()
Ircher votes imaginality ()
Merlyn votes JasonWazza ()
ceejayvinoya votes Merlyn ()
JasonWazza votes Merlyn ()
JasonWazza votes Ircher ()
heipizhu4 unvotes ()
Aliana votes no elimination ()
biancospino votes Ircher ()

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these votes:
In post 63, heipizhu4 wrote:
In post 61, Aliana wrote: How do we (the town) even win/lose the game if there isn't an anti-town faction opposing us?
Because we don't know the full setup yet! Imo the scum may only appears after we put someone in the box, or the setup just can't be that annoying to deal with.

VOTE: Bugspray
VOTE: qm Camile

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have been counted as UNVOTE: s

In post 74, biancospino wrote:
In post 65, heipizhu4 wrote:
In post 0, bugspray wrote: Day phases last for 168 hours (seven earth spinnies). During this time all players
must
vote on who to put into the box.
In post 0, bugspray wrote: Elimination
- Days end early when a simple majority of players (50% of living players + 1 rounded down) vote to eliminate somebody. If a majority is not reached at deadline or if a majority of the players vote for no elimination, the day will end without an elimination. At evens, 50% is sufficient for no elimination.
Are these rules paradoxical?
Is the paradox in the
must
? I think "nobody" is a fine answer to "who should be put into the box?".

This is a test:
VOTE: Ircher
Vote for Elimination: imaginality

In post 73, heipizhu4 wrote:
In post 67, biancospino wrote: (which is an unusual way to refer to () marks; it would generally refer to [] or 〈〉marks)
Tbh, I call all these 3 'brackets'. Anyway, interesting observation.
Fair. I would generally call () parenthesis or parens, but full disclosure, English is not my first language

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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:03 pm

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In post 72, JasonWazza wrote: Actually, you know what i want to ask this, does everyone have Reality feels unstable in their role PM?
I do
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:03 pm

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In post 74, biancospino wrote: Is the paradox in the must
? I think "nobody" is a fine answer to "who should be put into the box?".
Oh, didn't think of that. This game is starting to be a word game vs the mod lol
In post 74, biancospino wrote: Fair. I would generally call () parenthesis or parens, but full disclosure, English is not my first language
Neither mine, but hopefully this won't matter to the game, or does it?
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:05 pm

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In post 76, biancospino wrote:
In post 72, JasonWazza wrote: Actually, you know what i want to ask this, does everyone have Reality feels unstable in their role PM?
I do
+1. But why we don't have a sample pm?
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:06 pm

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In post 78, heipizhu4 wrote:
In post 76, biancospino wrote:
In post 72, JasonWazza wrote: Actually, you know what i want to ask this, does everyone have Reality feels unstable in their role PM?
I do
+1. But why we don't have a sample pm?
Moderator error.
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:06 pm

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In post 77, heipizhu4 wrote: Oh, didn't think of that. This game is starting to be a word game vs the mod lol
To be fair the mod started it with the wording in our Role PT's
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:08 pm

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In post 78, heipizhu4 wrote:
In post 76, biancospino wrote:
In post 72, JasonWazza wrote: Actually, you know what i want to ask this, does everyone have Reality feels unstable in their role PM?
I do
+1. But why we don't have a sample pm?
That's an interesting question. If there is a mechanical reason at all, I see no possible reason why unless the unstable thing was supposed not to be a publicly known global effect
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:08 pm

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Oh disregard, didn't see bug's post
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:09 pm

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Sample Role PMs have been made public. Additional information about the box has been made public.
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:10 pm

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VOTE: heipizhu

Hardest name to type out btw lol
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:11 pm

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In post 75, qm camille wrote:
votecount 1.2
  • Ircher [3]:
    imaginality (), JasonWazza (), biancospino ()
    Aliana [1]:
    Doctor Drew ()
    imaginality [1]:
    Ircher ()
    JasonWazza [1]:
    Merlyn ()
    Merlyn [1]:
    ceejayvinoya ()

    no elimination [1]:
    Aliana ()

    not voting [1]:
    heipizhu4 ()

    it takes 5 votes to put someone in the box

    deadline:
    (expired on 2023-06-30 17:07:12)
Spoiler: votelog
Doctor Drew votes Aliana ()
JasonWazza votes Doctor Drew ()
imaginality votes Ircher ()
Aliana votes Aliana ()
Ircher votes imaginality ()
Merlyn votes JasonWazza ()
ceejayvinoya votes Merlyn ()
JasonWazza votes Merlyn ()
JasonWazza votes Ircher ()
heipizhu4 unvotes ()
Aliana votes no elimination ()
biancospino votes Ircher ()

moderator notes:


these votes:
In post 63, heipizhu4 wrote:
In post 61, Aliana wrote: How do we (the town) even win/lose the game if there isn't an anti-town faction opposing us?
Because we don't know the full setup yet! Imo the scum may only appears after we put someone in the box, or the setup just can't be that annoying to deal with.

VOTE: Bugspray
VOTE: qm Camile

More experiments

have been counted as UNVOTE: s

In post 74, biancospino wrote:
In post 65, heipizhu4 wrote:
In post 0, bugspray wrote: Day phases last for 168 hours (seven earth spinnies). During this time all players
must
vote on who to put into the box.
In post 0, bugspray wrote: Elimination
- Days end early when a simple majority of players (50% of living players + 1 rounded down) vote to eliminate somebody. If a majority is not reached at deadline or if a majority of the players vote for no elimination, the day will end without an elimination. At evens, 50% is sufficient for no elimination.
Are these rules paradoxical?
Is the paradox in the
must
? I think "nobody" is a fine answer to "who should be put into the box?".

This is a test:
VOTE: Ircher
Vote for Elimination: imaginality

In post 73, heipizhu4 wrote:
In post 67, biancospino wrote: (which is an unusual way to refer to () marks; it would generally refer to [] or 〈〉marks)
Tbh, I call all these 3 'brackets'. Anyway, interesting observation.
Fair. I would generally call () parenthesis or parens, but full disclosure, English is not my first language

please put all votes in VOTE: tags; bolded votes will not be counted

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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:13 pm

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VOTE: heipizhu4
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:15 pm

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In post 84, Doctor Drew wrote: VOTE: heipizhu

Hardest name to type out btw lol
VOTE: heip, it would be easier :mrgreen:
UNVOTE:
And VOTE: bianco for not being voted now.

And just curious, are we out of rvs yet?
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:16 pm

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So, I must conclude by the result of my test that "elimination" and "putting into the box" are in fact the same mechanic, otherwise I have no idea on how one would vote for elimination since vote tags produce box votes.
In post 84, Doctor Drew wrote: VOTE: heipizhu

Hardest name to type out btw lol
In post 86, JasonWazza wrote: VOTE: heipizhu4
Just so we're clear, those are non-RVS yes?
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:17 pm

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Mine is real.

And i will point this out, pondering aloud may actually help the town as a whole, given that we were given the single box answer publicly by pondering about the box.
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:19 pm

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Bianco, why so worried about votes on heip(thank you for the shorthand suggestion lol).
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:21 pm

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In post 0, bugspray wrote: There is only one box, and everyone inside has to share.
Just noticed this in the op. So how we reveal the mechanics is by discussing, right?
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:21 pm

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In post 0, bugspray wrote: Nobody (this is not a person, there is simply nobody inside of the box.)
Just noticed, the bracket has been closed, and here i was thinking that we were able to close it ourselves and thus close the box lol
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:22 pm

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Last bastard game I was in, which just ended and Bianco was there as well, I tried to get info in the PT I had(I was a solo mason.....ya, I know), didn't work there but maybe there is a reason we all(or at least I assume we all) have them?

Also Bianco, what is your first language?
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:23 pm

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In post 90, Doctor Drew wrote: Bianco, why so worried about votes on heip(thank you for the shorthand suggestion lol).
lol, I'm not? Just asked if they were out RVS as it looked they were
In post 93, Doctor Drew wrote: Last bastard game I was in, which just ended and Bianco was there as well, I tried to get info in the PT I had(I was a solo mason.....ya, I know), didn't work there but maybe there is a reason we all(or at least I assume we all) have them?

Also Bianco, what is your first language?
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Scum Role PMWelcome to Quantum Mafia You are a
Quantum Goon


You have a partner. Each night, you and your partner can collectively choose one player to put in a box. You must choose which of you will put that player in the box. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when all Quantum Townies are dead.


Reality feels unstable.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Note the wording,
all QTs
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:27 pm

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In post 94, biancospino wrote: Note the wording, all QTs, not all members of the Town or something like that.
Just to be clear, i think all town are Quantum Town.
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:35 pm

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In post 0, bugspray wrote:
Sample PMs:

Town Role PM
Welcome to Quantum Mafia You are a
Quantum Townie
.

You have no active abilities.

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Reality feels unstable.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Scum Role PMWelcome to Quantum Mafia You are a
Quantum Goon


You have
a partner
. Each night, you and your partner can collectively choose one player to put in a box. You must choose
which of you will put
that player in the box. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when all Quantum Townies are
dead
.

Reality feels unstable.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.
Bolded something out. I think I could reach some conclusions that:
  • Only 2 mafias exist
  • Which of the mafia to make the move matters. Probably it has relationship with the numbers?
  • Dead != in the box. So could I guess the box is may be something similar as being doused in the forest fire (https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Forest_Fire )setup + added to a neighborhood + some unknown effect?
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 5:53 pm

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Please don't tell me this as easy as just Bianco/heip.
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:04 pm

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In post 96, heipizhu4 wrote:
In post 0, bugspray wrote:
Sample PMs:

Town Role PM
Welcome to Quantum Mafia You are a
Quantum Townie
.

You have no active abilities.

You win when all threats to the town have been eliminated.

Reality feels unstable.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Scum Role PMWelcome to Quantum Mafia You are a
Quantum Goon


You have
a partner
. Each night, you and your partner can collectively choose one player to put in a box. You must choose
which of you will put
that player in the box. You also share a factional Private Thread (PT), located here, where you may talk at any time.

You win when all Quantum Townies are
dead
.

Reality feels unstable.

Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.
Bolded something out. I think I could reach some conclusions that:
  • Only 2 mafias exist
  • Which of the mafia to make the move matters. Probably it has relationship with the numbers?
  • Dead != in the box. So could I guess the box is may be something similar as being doused in the forest fire (https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Forest_Fire )setup + added to a neighborhood + some unknown effect?
Note that it doesn't say "You win when all Quantum Townies are
in the box
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Fri Jun 23, 2023 6:06 pm

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Anyone else just wanna wing this and play it like a regular game of Mafia until the mechanics screws us over?
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