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Post Post #1950 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:52 am

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a funni I think sheep would do is to make the backup watcher a named townie
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Post Post #1951 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:54 am

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In post 1933, Cook wrote:
In post 1929, Black wrote:
In post 1914, Cook wrote: alright, i listened to everyone’s feedback and all and decided to rolecop black. she’s tracker
I don't know if revealing my role right away was the best play but I could be wrong. Maybe I'm just not a fan of being outed like this
In post 1916, Flower wrote: We still kill Cook here since she's scum Rolecop, Black since you're outed can you fullclaim?
I think I'd like to keep my result secret for now. I'll reveal it before the day ends just in case I'm the N2 target
yeah maybe should have thought that through a little more

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Post Post #1952 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:55 am

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In post 1947, Black wrote: I got a no visit, but I don't see why that person couldn't just be a goon
That would imply two goons since you'd assume that otherwise Goon would be killing and maf PR would be PRing

In the Goon no visit scenario the visits would be:

Vig -> Asri
Italiano -> ?
Black -> ?
Cook -> Black
Goon -> Ausuka
Goon2 -> No visit
4x Town -> No visit

That's a 4/5 chance of the no-visit coming from town if we're already in the double goon/other maf PR doesn't PR n1 scenarios

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Post Post #1953 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 9:57 am

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Hmm. Ok. Let me think on this. I'm not going to reveal right now so just give it some time
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Post Post #1954 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:05 am

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In post 1950, iamveryhappy wrote: a funni I think sheep would do is to make the backup watcher a named townie
I don't think that's likely.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #1955 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:07 am

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In post 1954, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1950, iamveryhappy wrote: a funni I think sheep would do is to make the backup watcher a named townie
I don't think that's likely.
Who do you think is scum?
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #1956 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:26 am

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In post 1954, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1950, iamveryhappy wrote: a funni I think sheep would do is to make the backup watcher a named townie
I don't think that's likely.
Setup has too much Town power if the Town Watcher is real, Ausuka was almost certainly a Named Townie:

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Post Post #1957 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:35 am

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In post 1955, Black wrote: Who do you think is scum?
Italiano
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Post Post #1958 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:37 am

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In post 1956, Flower wrote:
In post 1954, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1950, iamveryhappy wrote: a funni I think sheep would do is to make the backup watcher a named townie
I don't think that's likely.
Setup has too much Town power if the Town Watcher is real, Ausuka was almost certainly a Named Townie:

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you said that Ausuka was almost certainly a named townie
so shouldn't we discard that and add a villie int there for balance
also thinking that a non-vig pr should be in the scumteam or else the town is too good
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Post Post #1959 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:40 am

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Why are you assuming Cook is fake and Italiano is real?
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #1960 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:42 am

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Also why are you assuming the watcher is ungated?
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #1961 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 10:51 am

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In post 1958, iamveryhappy wrote:
In post 1956, Flower wrote:
In post 1954, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 1950, iamveryhappy wrote: a funni I think sheep would do is to make the backup watcher a named townie
I don't think that's likely.
Setup has too much Town power if the Town Watcher is real, Ausuka was almost certainly a Named Townie:

Town Tracker

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Town Backup Watcher

Town X-Shot Vigilante

Town Odd-Night Neapolitan

Vanilla Town x5

Mafia 1-shot Bulletproof Rolecop

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you said that Ausuka was almost certainly a named townie
so shouldn't we discard that watcher and add a villie in there for balance
also thinking that a non-vig pr should be in the scumteam or else the town is too good
like
it's rarely townsided if this is the setup
ebwop
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6x VT

Backup Watcher (named townie) [color]
Vig+Neapolitan+Tracker [color]
Mafia Goon, Ascetic Rolecop, unknown PR [color]

I got lazy near the end lol
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Post Post #1962 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:02 am

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In post 1960, Something_Smart wrote: Also why are you assuming the watcher is ungated?
If the Watcher is gated then killing them increases Town power which would be pretty weird
In post 1959, Something_Smart wrote:
Why are you assuming Cook is fake and Italiano is real?
Already explained how Cook voting Ausuka d1 outs her as scum but in the town!Cook/scum!Italiano scenario the setup imbalance gets even worse

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Post Post #1963 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:06 am

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Ugh, this is why I hate this game sometimes. I targeted Black last not and my result was “not a vanilla townie”.

I don’t know what’s happening, but interestingly enough Cook comes in and says she checks Black and immediately outs her role.

I don’t like this because either Cook is setting up Black to get nightkilled or they are partners and trying to get ahead of the town.

Either way.

VOTE: Cook
I wonder if MH coached Italiano at all or if that was just rock solid scum play start to finish.
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Post Post #1964 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:08 am

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man it’s gonna look so so bad when i flip green
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Post Post #1965 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:10 am

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In post 1962, Flower wrote:
In post 1960, Something_Smart wrote: Also why are you assuming the watcher is ungated?
If the Watcher is gated then killing them increases Town power which would be pretty weird
In post 1959, Something_Smart wrote:
Why are you assuming Cook is fake and Italiano is real?
Already explained how Cook voting Ausuka d1 outs her as scum but in the town!Cook/scum!Italiano scenario the setup imbalance gets even worse

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i already explained how my ausuka vote was a miscommunication you’re finding reasons to deathtunnel me

like if i were vig i would have shot you on suspicion of being a condemner in any other game
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Post Post #1966 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:13 am

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The reason I checked Black was because I couldn’t really get a comfortable read on her. At one time I had her as Cook’s partner or even Ausuka’s, but her conviction on Ausuka and then the flip on her late day 1 is what I assumed to be overthinking and very much a townie thing I know from experience. The results of today just make it a little stronger for me.

I mean if she is scum, it’s with Cook, but there’s a possibility that she is just town here.

:facepalm: at all of this.
I wonder if MH coached Italiano at all or if that was just rock solid scum play start to finish.
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Post Post #1967 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:14 am

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In post 1965, Cook wrote:
In post 1962, Flower wrote:
In post 1960, Something_Smart wrote: Also why are you assuming the watcher is ungated?
If the Watcher is gated then killing them increases Town power which would be pretty weird
In post 1959, Something_Smart wrote:
Why are you assuming Cook is fake and Italiano is real?
Already explained how Cook voting Ausuka d1 outs her as scum but in the town!Cook/scum!Italiano scenario the setup imbalance gets even worse

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i already explained how my ausuka vote was a miscommunication you’re finding reasons to deathtunnel me

like if i were vig i would have shot you on suspicion of being a condemner in any other game
As soon as Ausuka claimed Backup Watcher you should have locktowned her, there's no miscommunication there. In a scum!Ausuka game she has no reason to save town!Cook by crumbing that Ninja/Strongman makes sense and then claiming a role that makes town!Cook make sense if there's no Vig

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Post Post #1968 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:16 am

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Don’t like Something_Smart pushing me as scum now. Didn’t have a presence on Day 1 and now is in early to make sure the narrative is formed.

He is probably partners with Cook.
I wonder if MH coached Italiano at all or if that was just rock solid scum play start to finish.
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Post Post #1969 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:17 am

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If Cook is town, Flower and IVD are scum

If Cook is scum, I think IVD is town and Flower is probably town too
I scumread Alianna.

ALL HAIL THE SCUM QUEEN!
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Post Post #1970 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:17 am

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Anyways we're still killing Cook here, just waiting for Black to post her Green check

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Post Post #1971 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:18 am

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We're not limming anyone right now, so keep waiting
I scumread Alianna.

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Post Post #1972 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:21 am

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In post 1969, Black wrote: If Cook is town, Flower and IVD are scum

If Cook is scum, I think IVD is town and Flower is probably town too
There's no world where Cook's town here, go re-read Ausukas mechposting where she says Cook's scum trueclaiming if there's a vig in the game

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Post Post #1973 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:23 am

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In post 1693, Ausuka wrote: That being said cook might still be scum here so like come to your own conclusions etc. I would be significantly more skeptical of her if two people die tonight as I have said.
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Post Post #1974 (ISO) » Thu Jun 22, 2023 11:24 am

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In post 1972, Flower wrote:
In post 1969, Black wrote: If Cook is town, Flower and IVD are scum

If Cook is scum, I think IVD is town and Flower is probably town too
There's no world where Cook's town here, go re-read Ausukas mechposting where she says Cook's scum trueclaiming if there's a vig in the game

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In post 1973, Flower wrote:
In post 1693, Ausuka wrote: That being said cook might still be scum here so like come to your own conclusions etc. I would be significantly more skeptical of her if two people die tonight as I have said.
I'm willing to believe you, but last time I said that fire called me scum -_-
I scumread Alianna.

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