Micro 1083: Garlic Bread Heist! (Game Over)

[Alisae]

I once asked Ser Arthur Dayne for a tl;dr and he told me to stop playing mafia

[Skygazer]

the game of thrones character?

[Skygazer]

okay reading now

[Alisae]

the game of thrones character?

Someone on this site went by that ID.
I don't think you met SAD.

[Thestatusquo]

I meet sad very frequently

[Skygazer]

can we just cast aside mafia and start an improv comedy troupe? i feel like that's pretty clearly where this is headed

[Garlic Bread]

I actually read through VPs wall and it doesn't convince me because it does the thing I mentioned earlier about just labeling not actually scummy things that just look bad as scummy and also purely relating reads back to himself.

It's a nice wall but it isn't well researched.

[Garlic Bread]

Skygazer - I feel they are trying to get into the game sometimes and struggling and it's +wolf a bit by now

This is a big fat L take that I'm not sure if you actually believe considering you just saw me zero post for an entire day one and claim it was because I was locked in a burger king as town

in essence: i don't see how you could arrive at me struggling to get into a game being AI when you just saw me struggle to get into a game.

I can see how they could do it tbh

[Ausuka]

In 2018 there was a garlic bread heist in Warwick, Queensland, Australia. A man and a woman flagged down a delivery guy and snatched the order from his hands without paying. Police investigated the incident, but unfortunately I don't know whether the culprit was ever caught. Well, for garlic bread thieves, I suppose it's fortunate...

Votecount 1.7

hellbooks (2) - sheepsaysmeep, Thestatusquo
Alisae (1) - VP Baltar
Garlic Bread (1) - tris
sheepsaysmeep (1) - Garlic Bread
Thestatusquo (1) - hellbooks
VP Baltar (1) - Alisae
xofelf (1) - Skygazer

Not Voting (1) - xofelf

Deadline is in (expired on 2023-06-14 13:28:18). With 9 people alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate.

[Skygazer]

that vote count wow

[Thestatusquo]

hellbooks why are you voting me

[VP Baltar]

I actually read through VPs wall and it doesn't convince me because it does the thing I mentioned earlier about just labeling not actually scummy things that just look bad as scummy and also purely relating reads back to himself.

It's a nice wall but it isn't well researched.

This is why garlic bread needs to immediately go if alisae flips red.

She's allegedly way down on GB's list, but they then come up with every excuse imaginable to not seriously consider an Alisae scum world.

Of course I view people's alignment through how they interact with me. I know my alignment and I know scum would want me dead at some point. Alisae's entire interaction with me is extremely bad faith and shallow, and hasn't evolved since what was an early game vote. GB's response: "oh vp only thinks about himself"

BRO WHO ELSE IS ALISAE LEGIT PUSHING? you could easily make the same argument about the sheep push outside of one fairly obvious point, which I acknowledged early as ok and investigated more than she ever did.

It's complete bullshit for you to come in and spin my case as being lacking when you go to any and every length to keep attention away from what is objectively scummy play by Alisae.

Let me put this another way, do you think alisae is playing townie here?

[VP Baltar]

that vote count wow

I agree and it's why I started a more serious push here. I think this game needs to organize and get some dueling wagons going here. If that's alisae and Sheep, fine. Let's do it. We need to force people to make choices so we have info later game and not just have a vanity wagon party that consolidates last minute one a potential misyeet

[Garlic Bread]

Why am I automatically linked to Alisae as opposed to someone who is reading the game in a way that reached her town?

Like I said, it's much more common for mafia to do this kind of lazy linking, but also lol reality is unlikely to be on your side.

You think I'm linked to alisae - now from my side explain how my play is Scummy then.

If mafia was as simple as "townies only defend townies and only push mafia" you'd think that town would win more, no? And i know you have enough experience to know that isn't true, if you're town who got caught into that trap then here's your wake up to no longer be allowed to peddle fallacies like that.

Is an alisae sheep world impossible to you?

[Garlic Bread]

that vote count wow

I agree and it's why I started a more serious push here. I think this game needs to organize and get some dueling wagons going here. If that's alisae and Sheep, fine. Let's do it. We need to force people to make choices so we have info later game and not just have a vanity wagon party that consolidates last minute one a potential misyeet

"Look at me I'm doing towny things" OK is sheep town to you?

[Garlic Bread]

Your argument for alisae scum is "she isn't doing things townies have to do!"
While you could make the same arguments for other slots.

Why am I able to do that baltar? Why are you arguments like that? What am I missing here? Has OMGUS worked for you in the past?

[Thestatusquo]

I didn't read vpbs case but I think alisae is plausibly in her scum range.

[Thestatusquo]

idk I've been waiting for like follow up for a while now.

[Garlic Bread]

my take on this conversation is that you are full of shit and these are the kind of lengths you have to go to to justify your stance.
I actually have a really hard time seeing how it.

First I though it likely isn't impossible for that xof post to be made by a wolf but I think it's much more likely that that is a genuine xofelf reaction
then I read garlic's breads posts up to that point and xof unvote post makes significantly more sense and makes me think more so that this is something that xofelf just thinks.

I think your approach of looking at the post and trying to see how you can attack it as opposed to actually looking at the events that happened to see if such a stance would make sense to have or whatnot just ping wolf to me > town who wants to actually be right on a read

Also despite what u may claim, alisae has explored multiple slots and has even asked you directly who you think mafia are and has poked at you to find your alignment directly.

And the above quote is aimed at sheep, and these are progressions that I find towny from her.

So frankly maybe that's why I find your framing extremely disingenuous, and considering your line of work I am disappointed at your lack of sources in your case.

[Garlic Bread]

I didn't read vpbs case but I think alisae is plausibly in her scum range.

famously not powerwolfing scum alisae

[Garlic Bread]

idk this interaction has made me realize alisae is actually kinda out of scumrange cuz she isn't just sitting down as scum and likes to control gamestate lol

Regardless when reISOing alisae I did realize she was townier than initially thought bc of how she has been poking at stuff in general.

[VP Baltar]

Where did I say an alisae!town world is impossible or that "townies only defend townies" or that "she isn't doing things that townies do"?

Pretty cool strawman. Methinks thou doth protest too much.

As far as analyzing your behavior, it's on my list. I find alot of what you're pushing pretty boring and think you're getting by on volume largely. If a person is highly motivated, it's easy to get townread by perceived effort, even if the substance is lacking.

Pedit - of course GB is white knight ingredients alisae lol

[Garlic Bread]

@alisae if ur town, ur gonna have to activate now cuz I can't stop lol townies from sleeping baltars bad case on u

[VP Baltar]

White knight ingredients is king autocorrect from white knighting

[Garlic Bread]

Where did I say an alisae!town world is impossible or that "townies only defend townies" or that "she isn't doing things that townies do"?

Pretty cool strawman. Methinks thou doth protest too much.

As far as analyzing your behavior, it's on my list. I find alot of what you're pushing pretty boring and think you're getting by on volume largely. If a person is highly motivated, it's easy to get townread by perceived effort, even if the substance is lacking.

Pedit - of course GB is white knight ingredients alisae lol

Citation , motherfucker