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Post Post #1025 (ISO) » Sat Jun 03, 2023 3:54 pm

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In post 1020, GrandpaMo wrote: but how will they be given this power? through the day im assuming -- thats the only time.
I received the power at the very beginning of Night 1, so I would assume that this power was given out during Day 1.
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Post Post #1026 (ISO) » Sat Jun 03, 2023 3:54 pm

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It's most important you should be
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And see the common folk at play;
For this lot, every day's a holiday.


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with 9 alive it is 5 to eliminate.
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Post Post #1027 (ISO) » Sat Jun 03, 2023 4:29 pm

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In post 1021, biancospino wrote:
In post 1019, GrandpaMo wrote: there is also a def higher planning thing where greeting and meuh are mimes together and they are orchestrating this whole thing to get one of the mime people out so that the mime leader stays alive till the rest of the game and can win.
How. The mime leader needs also be executed to win.

And I really don't get how 3 mimes would be your default, your explanation didn't really made much sense to me
In post 1014, GrandpaMo wrote: i was assuming there is 3 because of a faction based game. the way the mod put it -- it seemed like it was a mime faction that u dont recruit. 2 mimes as a minority faction with no ability to recruit is oddly weird and never done.
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1. they wait till the end -- its easy.
2.idk, i just dont ever see 2 mimes here with a minority faction. i dont too much about these bastard factions. usually when i played with minority factions they were all 3+ or more so im used to that schema.
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Post Post #1028 (ISO) » Sat Jun 03, 2023 4:29 pm

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In post 1025, Greeting wrote:
In post 1020, GrandpaMo wrote: but how will they be given this power? through the day im assuming -- thats the only time.
I received the power at the very beginning of Night 1, so I would assume that this power was given out during Day 1.
@mod if someone receives something during the day, will they be notified during the day or the beginning of night 1?
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Post Post #1029 (ISO) » Sat Jun 03, 2023 10:19 pm

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In post 1027, GrandpaMo wrote: 1. they wait till the end -- its easy.
2.idk, i just dont ever see 2 mimes here with a minority faction. i dont too much about these bastard factions. usually when i played with minority factions they were all 3+ or more so im used to that schema.
1. Then they lose. If they survive to end game they lose.
In post 1024, Greeting wrote: If something is wrong with the result that I got then I might as well just vote myself out on Day 3, because a power that would give me a wrong Watcher shot, or a power that somehow falsifies the result (given that whomever falisifed that shot knew that I received the shot) would mean the setup is broken, even for a bastard game.
What's up with the defeatism?
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Post Post #1030 (ISO) » Sat Jun 03, 2023 11:10 pm

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If you read Mime role flip carefully, it mentions "Partner". Not "Partners".
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Post Post #1031 (ISO) » Sat Jun 03, 2023 11:13 pm

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Wait actually with how it worded.

Well. Not sure.
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Post Post #1032 (ISO) » Sat Jun 03, 2023 11:19 pm

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If i was mafia in mime game, i probably would fakeclaim guilty in hopes everyone will think i am mime.

I probably would't do it as real mime, because... Well i am Enchant, i don't need outside help to die.
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Post Post #1033 (ISO) » Sat Jun 03, 2023 11:50 pm

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Aside from anything else if the power giver was town then there should be one player who believes Greeting (presumably they would give the shot to someone they townread).

It doesn't seem anyone does believe Greeting though so either the power giver is non-town or (more likely) Greeting is just lying.
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Post Post #1034 (ISO) » Sun Jun 04, 2023 2:57 am

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In post 1015, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 978, Meuh wrote: Actually are you just mime
isnt the mech play to elim u. if ur scum, cool we got one scum out. if ur town, we get them out
I think if maf!Greeting is making this play it's to force a mislim right now, in which case scum are probably in a position where getting that mislim leads them to victory, even if it ends up with Greeting being caught
The margins are narrow enough that I don't really think mislimming me right now is worth the potential Greeting lim tomorrow
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Post Post #1035 (ISO) » Sun Jun 04, 2023 3:04 am

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In post 1016, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 986, Meuh wrote: VOTE: Greeting
I think you're smart enough not to make that play if you were mime
are u able to roleclaim? i dont think greeting would lie here so randomly. the only time they would lie is to get themeslves out but at the same time, that would just be too obvious. greeting couldf just easily hop on the wagon of voting me out or something. i think that if greeting is not lying, then greeting might have gotten redirected?
I guess I could roleclaim but I also don't adore the idea of claiming because of this push
I'd give Greeting the benefit of the doubt on redirection or bastard elements if Greeting himself had actually shown any of that sort of reconsideration that someone with actual info in a bastard game would have, but the immediate "Meuh is 100% scum and her trying to understand the situation is role fishing" feels agenda motivated. imo town!Greeting would actually have that same thought as you on a potential redirection, especially since they apparently townread me day 1. Instead, he's trying to shove a lim through.
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Post Post #1036 (ISO) » Sun Jun 04, 2023 3:04 am

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In post 1019, GrandpaMo wrote: there is also a def higher planning thing where greeting and meuh are mimes together and they are orchestrating this whole thing to get one of the mime people out so that the mime leader stays alive till the rest of the game and can win.
Damn I wish this was true cause that sounds cool as hell :lol:
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Post Post #1037 (ISO) » Sun Jun 04, 2023 3:05 am

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In post 1018, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 1010, biancospino wrote: We decide today to vote him out tomorrow, as blackmail. If he is mime and not dead, they are voted out and scum lose (toghether with town, but scum don't care about that part). So if he's mime, scum must kill them unless they have reasons to believe there are 3 mimes
thats faulty. i dont think scum ever kills mimes early this game. i think maf can keep them alive to fuck with town
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Post Post #1038 (ISO) » Sun Jun 04, 2023 3:09 am

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In post 1030, Enchant wrote: If you read Mime role flip carefully, it mentions "Partner". Not "Partners".
In post 1031, Enchant wrote: Wait actually with how it worded.

Well. Not sure.
The way it's worded says "a partner" which is wording that could work for both for 2 or 3 mimes. If anything, it's wording I think is more likely for 3 mimes, but also could be purposely nebulous by the mod so we can't know for sure
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Post Post #1039 (ISO) » Sun Jun 04, 2023 3:09 am

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In post 1032, Enchant wrote: If i was mafia in mime game, i probably would fakeclaim guilty in hopes everyone will think i am mime.

I probably would't do it as real mime, because... Well i am Enchant, i don't need outside help to die.
:lol: :lol: :lol: too real
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Post Post #1040 (ISO) » Sun Jun 04, 2023 3:11 am

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In post 1033, imaginality wrote: Aside from anything else if the power giver was town then there should be one player who believes Greeting (presumably they would give the shot to someone they townread).

It doesn't seem anyone does believe Greeting though so either the power giver is non-town or (more likely) Greeting is just lying.
I don't think Phir or Wheme have showed up yet so while I think Greeting is outright lying, we should probably leave some benefit of the doubt until then
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Post Post #1041 (ISO) » Sun Jun 04, 2023 3:14 am

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In post 1040, Meuh wrote:
In post 1033, imaginality wrote: Aside from anything else if the power giver was town then there should be one player who believes Greeting (presumably they would give the shot to someone they townread).

It doesn't seem anyone does believe Greeting though so either the power giver is non-town or (more likely) Greeting is just lying.
I don't think Phir or Wheme have showed up yet so while I think Greeting is outright lying, we should probably leave some benefit of the doubt until then
What benefit of doubt
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Post Post #1042 (ISO) » Sun Jun 04, 2023 3:17 am

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In post 1041, Enchant wrote:
In post 1040, Meuh wrote:
In post 1033, imaginality wrote: Aside from anything else if the power giver was town then there should be one player who believes Greeting (presumably they would give the shot to someone they townread).

It doesn't seem anyone does believe Greeting though so either the power giver is non-town or (more likely) Greeting is just lying.
I don't think Phir or Wheme have showed up yet so while I think Greeting is outright lying, we should probably leave some benefit of the doubt until then
What benefit of doubt
To it being some wacky bastard situation that somehow ended up with Greeting having false info
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Post Post #1043 (ISO) » Sun Jun 04, 2023 3:22 am

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VOTE: No Elimination
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Post Post #1044 (ISO) » Sun Jun 04, 2023 3:24 am

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:thinking:
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Post Post #1045 (ISO) » Sun Jun 04, 2023 4:38 am

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In post 1044, Meuh wrote: :thinking:
and everyone thought I was crZy
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Post Post #1046 (ISO) » Sun Jun 04, 2023 4:39 am

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pls if u gave greeting a power, pls out it
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Post Post #1047 (ISO) » Sun Jun 04, 2023 6:30 am

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In post 1045, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 1044, Meuh wrote: :thinking:
and everyone thought I was crZy
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Post Post #1048 (ISO) » Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:17 am

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In post 1042, Meuh wrote:
In post 1041, Enchant wrote:
In post 1040, Meuh wrote:
In post 1033, imaginality wrote: Aside from anything else if the power giver was town then there should be one player who believes Greeting (presumably they would give the shot to someone they townread).

It doesn't seem anyone does believe Greeting though so either the power giver is non-town or (more likely) Greeting is just lying.
I don't think Phir or Wheme have showed up yet so while I think Greeting is outright lying, we should probably leave some benefit of the doubt until then
What benefit of doubt
To it being some wacky bastard situation that somehow ended up with Greeting having false info
ur not even confident yourself either.

i just dont see the benefit of greeting doing this play as scum.

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Post Post #1049 (ISO) » Sun Jun 04, 2023 12:03 pm

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Dammit GMo, I didn't want to be agreeing with you.

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