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Post Post #375 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2023 1:34 pm

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In post 372, demona wrote: also wonder if grandpamo just resumes playing the game after

hmm probably not since grandpamo gave a 'final reads' type of post, and thus means of confirmation is probably just being flipped at the end, sigh, should have thought about this more before asking any questions, that's my bad everyone,
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Post Post #376 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2023 1:35 pm

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In post 371, demona wrote:
In post 349, GrandpaMo wrote:
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Thee may asketh me any questions in the entire w'rld and I shall guideth thee and s'rve as a guardian by answ'ring by
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there is a means by which you can become confirmed or as confirmed as one can be in a bastard game other than being flipped which you are currently aware of. true/false

you are aligned with the town and solely the town and win with no faction other than the town. true/false

you are in a private topic with doctor drew. true/false
i would like to retract the first of these three questions if i am allowed to since you have not yet answered
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Post Post #377 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2023 1:52 pm

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In post 316, WhemeStar wrote:
In post 300, Meuh wrote:
In post 297, WhemeStar wrote: Any questions for me
If you were stranded on a deserted island with 3 people on this playerlist, who would you bring??
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Post Post #378 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2023 1:52 pm

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In post 349, GrandpaMo wrote:
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Thee may asketh me any questions in the entire w'rld and I shall guideth thee and s'rve as a guardian by answ'ring by
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?????

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Post Post #379 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2023 1:54 pm

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In post 320, Phir wrote: Mo bothers me telling demona to use pt and saying they too much but
wasting 'restricted posts' to spout general bs.
This whole case one me feels like mo wanting something to not do while looking busy.classic scum. Anyway.

VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever
You just said the same thing I did in the bolded, but then voted me. The progression is strange
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Post Post #380 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2023 1:54 pm

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In post 371, demona wrote: there is a means by which you can become confirmed or as confirmed as one can be in a bastard game other than being flipped which you are currently aware of. true/false

you are aligned with the town and solely the town and win with no faction other than the town. true/false

you are in a private topic with doctor drew. true/false

These art invalid questions as t p'rtains to a statement and not questioneth f'rmat. These art not indirect statements and th'ref're all questions hath asked wilt has't a valid response of true 'r false did indicate by a "?"

Feeleth free to rephrase
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Post Post #381 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2023 1:55 pm

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I am perfectly content with voting this for now. Have been trying to get something out that is longer than a few words from
Cat Scratch Fever
, but failed. I guess some pressure here is warranted.

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Post Post #382 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2023 1:56 pm

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In post 322, Greeting wrote:
WhemeStar
is obviously a low-effort player, problem is that this might not be AI.
I think they're jokey, but they certainly do take the game seriously enough to at least try when town
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Post Post #383 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2023 1:58 pm

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In post 380, GrandpaMo wrote:
In post 371, demona wrote: there is a means by which you can become confirmed or as confirmed as one can be in a bastard game other than being flipped which you are currently aware of. true/false

you are aligned with the town and solely the town and win with no faction other than the town. true/false

you are in a private topic with doctor drew. true/false

These art invalid questions as t p'rtains to a statement and not questioneth f'rmat. These art not indirect statements and th'ref're all questions hath asked wilt has't a valid response of true 'r false did indicate by a "?"

Feeleth free to rephrase
wasted question saved by a formatting error i guess lol

okay let's think

also @everyone opinions regarding the second and third questions should i simply reask those?
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Post Post #384 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2023 2:02 pm

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Against our spirit's loftiest conception
Some foreign element continually conspires;
The good to which the soul on earth aspires,
The better part of it is vain deception.


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Cat Scratch Fever (3): Meuh, Phir, Greeting
Whemestar (2): imaginality, biancospino
Biancospino (2): Cat Scratch Fever, Doctor Drew
Phir (1): GrandpaMo
Imaginality (1): Whemestar

not voting (2): demona, Enchant

With 11 alive it's 6 to eliminate.
Surrender, imagine and of course wear something nice.
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Post Post #385 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2023 2:03 pm

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In post 378, Greeting wrote:
In post 349, GrandpaMo wrote:
I am a
Town Guardian Angel


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Thee may asketh me any questions in the entire w'rld and I shall guideth thee and s'rve as a guardian by answ'ring by
true
'r
false
!
?????

UNVOTE: GrandpaMo

This as an invalid questioneth as t p'rtains to not being in questioneth f'rmat. This is not indirect statement and th'ref're all questions hath asked wilt has't a valid response of true 'r false did indicate by a "?"
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Post Post #386 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2023 2:05 pm

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In post 334, demona wrote:
In post 322, Greeting wrote:
WhemeStar
is obviously a low-effort player, problem is that this might not be AI.

i mean,

sure whemestar's engagement so far might very much not be ai, of course, it also might be ai, or it be indicative of a game related but not necessarily alignment related thing, et cetera et cetera

i guess my question would be... what is your plan for determining which?


though whemestar did ask if anyone had any questions and noone asked anything game related so it's not really like its all on whemestar either

not that i would have really known what to ask that might be helpful
I would rather go after someone else for the time being and leave sorting
WhemeStar
for later.
In post 334, demona wrote: also kinda a little curious how you determined the obviousness of this and how it applies across the board to whemestar since i clicked around on a few games and it seemed like there was potentially more substantial engagement from whemestar at various points,
I didn't know his meta whatsoever, it was judgement solely based on this game's ISO. Which I would say is enough to warrant that judgement.
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Post Post #387 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2023 2:07 pm

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This grandpamo thing seems like a distraction. He isn't confirmed as anything nor does he claim to have any information that we don't

I agree with whoever said that mo phrased his post restriction as a bad thing earlier, but has since changed it to be a good thing. The way he played earlier doesn't jive with his restriction
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Post Post #388 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2023 2:09 pm

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Greeting, I already commented on bianco earlier. What else are you looking for?
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Post Post #389 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2023 2:09 pm

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In post 366, GrandpaMo wrote:
A lighteth hast evok'd me from above!

i has't been toldeth to clarifyeth

- i can only answ'r up to 25 questions, so asketh wisely!
- thee may only asketh true 'r false questions
- i doth not has't extra inf'rmation on oth'r roles, mod, and mechanics.
- thee may only asketh questions from and about angels and demons game.
- thee can asketh oth'r gen'ral questions only if 't be true t p'rtains to me on who is't and what i am.
- all invalid questions shall not beest did count towards the 25 questions
- i has't gen'ral inf'rmation on the game. I shall useth this inf'rmation to most wondrous guideth thee as town's guardian angel.

Our goal is to surpass the demons of this game yond is ov'rtaking our kingdom. Whom we art the savi'rs, guardians, the ones who is't shall saveth the entirety of life from those of lacking valor shall
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Post Post #390 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2023 2:13 pm

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In post 389, Greeting wrote:
In post 366, GrandpaMo wrote:
A lighteth hast evok'd me from above!

i has't been toldeth to clarifyeth

- i can only answ'r up to 25 questions, so asketh wisely!
- thee may only asketh true 'r false questions
- i doth not has't extra inf'rmation on oth'r roles, mod, and mechanics.
- thee may only asketh questions from and about angels and demons game.
- thee can asketh oth'r gen'ral questions only if 't be true t p'rtains to me on who is't and what i am.
- all invalid questions shall not beest did count towards the 25 questions
- i has't gen'ral inf'rmation on the game. I shall useth this inf'rmation to most wondrous guideth thee as town's guardian angel.

Our goal is to surpass the demons of this game yond is ov'rtaking our kingdom. Whom we art the savi'rs, guardians, the ones who is't shall saveth the entirety of life from those of lacking valor shall
Were all the statements that you have made in this thread true?

False!
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Post Post #391 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2023 2:14 pm

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Great.
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Post Post #392 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2023 2:16 pm

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In post 387, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: This grandpamo thing seems like a distraction. He isn't confirmed as anything nor does he claim to have any information that we don't

I agree with whoever said that mo phrased his post restriction as a bad thing earlier, but has since changed it to be a good thing. The way he played earlier doesn't jive with his restriction

i think(?) he explicitly claimed to have information that we do not:
In post 366, GrandpaMo wrote: - i has't gen'ral inf'rmation on the game. I shall useth this inf'rmation to most wondrous guideth thee as town's guardian angel.
though i am struggling with the language quite a bit

i agree that the way he played earlier is pretty ??? for this restriction and i did question the seemingly evolving nature of the claim,

but like, if it is a distraction then we ask the questions, nothing happens at the end then we decide what to do, right

like not partaking in it probably isn't a viable approach

and the addendum post and the formatting rules and such all seem like, like unlikely to come from a fake post restriction

once again maybe not fully honest regarding alignment and purpose and such but i do not think grandpamo wholly invented the whole thing because why would he have bothered with all of the extraneous bits and how likely is it that he would have thought to give himself a whole bunch of rules he must follow in how he answers
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Post Post #393 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2023 2:21 pm

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In post 392, demona wrote: like not partaking in it probably isn't a viable approach

actually, hm, could be grandpamo's win condition i guess, to simply get us to ask all of the questions, but even if that is a third party win condition i very highly doubt that it would be an exclusive win condition, like town could still win after i think i do not think third party grandpamo winning by getting us to ask the requisite number of questions would end the game or anything
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Post Post #394 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2023 2:22 pm

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In post 392, demona wrote: once again maybe not fully honest regarding alignment and purpose and such
but i do not think grandpamo wholly invented the whole thing
because why would he have bothered with all of the extraneous bits and how likely is it that he would have thought to give himself a whole bunch of rules he must follow in how he answers
Let's try this out. I won't ask any more questions after this unless I think of something really good, as apparently we're limited to 25.
In post 38, GrandpaMo wrote: also i do have like a post restriction. i wont out yet what it is
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Post Post #395 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2023 2:24 pm

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I see, he doesn't know about roles, mods, mechanics but has some sort of general information about the game...

It might be worth asking if there is another aspect to his role, if he will gain more information later, does this restriction extend to the rest of the game, but yeah still think it's mostly a distraction at least for today when we are in a limited info stage

But if other people want to brainstorm, I'm not gonna crimp your style
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Post Post #396 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2023 2:25 pm

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In post 391, Greeting wrote: Great.

i assume 'in this thread' would also entail all of the posts grandpamo made before the questions game as well so it's like, could be the neighbour thing or just about anything else grandpamo was untruthful about
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Post Post #397 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2023 2:25 pm

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In post 394, Greeting wrote:
In post 392, demona wrote: once again maybe not fully honest regarding alignment and purpose and such
but i do not think grandpamo wholly invented the whole thing
because why would he have bothered with all of the extraneous bits and how likely is it that he would have thought to give himself a whole bunch of rules he must follow in how he answers
Let's try this out. I won't ask any more questions after this unless I think of something really good, as apparently we're limited to 25.
In post 38, GrandpaMo wrote: also i do have like a post restriction. i wont out yet what it is
@
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Post Post #398 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2023 2:26 pm

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What else was he gonna answer...
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Post Post #399 (ISO) » Sat May 27, 2023 2:27 pm

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In post 393, demona wrote:
In post 392, demona wrote: like not partaking in it probably isn't a viable approach

actually, hm, could be grandpamo's win condition i guess, to simply get us to ask all of the questions, but even if that is a third party win condition i very highly doubt that it would be an exclusive win condition, like town could still win after i think i do not think third party grandpamo winning by getting us to ask the requisite number of questions would end the game or anything
That is an interesting theory that I didn't think of

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