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Post Post #375 (ISO) » Fri May 19, 2023 4:30 pm

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In post 374, JasonWazza wrote: Honestly i think again we might have a situation like 2120 of at least 1 in the lurker group, possibly 2, there's no real scum interactions happening in the active players, and that seems relatively hard given the sort of interactions we have been having.

Will say i really don't like the Merlyn wagon either, Merlyn reads to me as town, that said i can still understand the voters intentions so it feels like a town wagon.

Alianna is the one on the wagon who's intentions to me feel hollow.

And i don't know how more people aren't looking at SkyGazer just blatantly stalling for a whole half week to do nothing.

Not to mention just noticed they had pre-called out SS earlier, before they mentioned the stress thing in which makes that look even more disingenuous (why would it be the person you already mentioned, and not someone else if your worried it will cause you stress?).
I will say that we were in a game that just ended where she was pretty active, especially in end game, and then came to post here basically as soon as it ended.

Not sure what that means, but......could be overwhelmed by multiple games.
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Post Post #376 (ISO) » Fri May 19, 2023 4:31 pm

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Who is the we in this context?
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Post Post #377 (ISO) » Fri May 19, 2023 4:38 pm

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In post 376, JasonWazza wrote: Who is the we in this context?
Oh sorry, sky and I.
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Post Post #378 (ISO) » Fri May 19, 2023 4:41 pm

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In post 369, Merlyn wrote:
In post 350, T3 wrote: VOTE: Alianna
I’m learning town on Merlyn and I don’t like some of the votes of her such as Alianna’s and Drew’s.
VOTE: AliannaI'm gonna hop on here. For me, scum could be actively participating/egging on the fight, but I bet it's more likely they're lurking at the edges at that makes Alianna and Drew both good candidates for me to look at.
You're citing "lurking at the edges" as your reason, but the names you've given are me, who's voting you, and Drew, who's entertaining the idea that you're S/S with GS. Interesting.
I suppose that doesn't explain why you didn't mention Kitty though, since he's also voting you.
Wait, why didn't you mention Kitty or T3 or Sky in that post? They've all been pretty low-content too.
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Post Post #379 (ISO) » Fri May 19, 2023 4:47 pm

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In post 348, T3 wrote:
In post 304, Alianna wrote: I will say, she was pretty obvtown to me last game and I'm not really seeing it this time around.
In post 305, Alianna wrote: Maybe there's a lead there.

VOTE: Merlyn
This looks like some pretty bad opportunism. Alaina is prepared to E-2 Merlyn, who she does not even scumread? Alianna’s read is just that she doesn’t townread Merlyn.
Pretty sure I said before that that I hadn't found a reason to vote yet. I was willing to vote someone for just about any reason, whether it was a good one or not.
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I think I might keep the vote there until Merlyn answers my question though.
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Post Post #380 (ISO) » Fri May 19, 2023 4:52 pm

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In post 377, Doctor Drew wrote:
In post 376, JasonWazza wrote: Who is the we in this context?
Oh sorry, sky and I.
Shouldn't that make the reasoning given in this game for not posting worse?
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Post Post #381 (ISO) » Fri May 19, 2023 5:00 pm

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I still think Merlyn is scummy.
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Post Post #382 (ISO) » Fri May 19, 2023 5:08 pm

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In post 381, KittyTacky wrote: I still think Merlyn is scummy.
For the same reasons, still?
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Post Post #383 (ISO) » Fri May 19, 2023 5:21 pm

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In post 381, KittyTacky wrote: I still think Merlyn is scummy.
Who is number 2 on your list?
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Post Post #384 (ISO) » Fri May 19, 2023 5:49 pm

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In post 378, Alianna wrote: I suppose that doesn't explain why you didn't mention Kitty though, since he's also voting you.
Wait, why didn't you mention Kitty or T3 or Sky in that post? They've all been pretty low-content too.
Kitty is actually a really good point, they're a prime example of what I mean by lurking at the edges. I don't think T3 really qualifies low content, though. Sky- they keep promising to post and I keep believing them lol.
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Post Post #385 (ISO) » Fri May 19, 2023 6:02 pm

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In post 384, Merlyn wrote:
In post 378, Alianna wrote: I suppose that doesn't explain why you didn't mention Kitty though, since he's also voting you.
Wait, why didn't you mention Kitty or T3 or Sky in that post? They've all been pretty low-content too.
Kitty is actually a really good point, they're a prime example of what I mean by lurking at the edges. I don't think T3 really qualifies low content, though. Sky- they keep promising to post and I keep believing them lol.
I threw T3 in there because he's the lowest poster numbers-wise. I see where you're coming from though with that.
I'm not really leaning one way or the other on Kitty, just because I remember town!him playing similarly before. I actually tried to get him yeeted for it as scum lol. I haven't played with scum!Kitty, but I feel like he'd be a bit lurky here regardless of his alignment. I should actually review that meta though.
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Post Post #386 (ISO) » Fri May 19, 2023 6:19 pm

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In post 384, Merlyn wrote:
In post 378, Alianna wrote: I suppose that doesn't explain why you didn't mention Kitty though, since he's also voting you.
Wait, why didn't you mention Kitty or T3 or Sky in that post? They've all been pretty low-content too.
Kitty is actually a really good point, they're a prime example of what I mean by lurking at the edges. I don't think T3 really qualifies low content, though. Sky- they keep promising to post and I keep believing them lol.
I'm sorry how does T3 not count?

T3 has given thoughts on like... 2 slots, maybe 3/4 depending on how generous you are and if you include the slight thought on drew that he didn't like the vote, and the slight thought on me.
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Post Post #387 (ISO) » Fri May 19, 2023 6:19 pm

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i went way too hard whoops
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Post Post #388 (ISO) » Fri May 19, 2023 6:19 pm

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Post Post #389 (ISO) » Fri May 19, 2023 6:31 pm

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In post 386, JasonWazza wrote:
In post 384, Merlyn wrote:
In post 378, Alianna wrote: I suppose that doesn't explain why you didn't mention Kitty though, since he's also voting you.
Wait, why didn't you mention Kitty or T3 or Sky in that post? They've all been pretty low-content too.
Kitty is actually a really good point, they're a prime example of what I mean by lurking at the edges. I don't think T3 really qualifies low content, though. Sky- they keep promising to post and I keep believing them lol.
I'm sorry how does T3 not count?

T3 has given thoughts on like... 2 slots, maybe 3/4 depending on how generous you are and if you include the slight thought on drew that he didn't like the vote, and the slight thought on me.
It's more than Kitty or myself, but yeah, definitely not high content.
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Post Post #390 (ISO) » Fri May 19, 2023 6:54 pm

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Honestly, i think KT's reads are better then T3's posturing in terms of content, i don't know any proper T3 reads, i do at least know a few KT reads.

KT = Town Jason, Scum Merlyn
T3 = Lean Town Merlyn, "don't like votes on merlyn" and "I like this interaction between Merlyn and Jason"
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Post Post #391 (ISO) » Fri May 19, 2023 7:55 pm

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How'd you miss "Alianna vote is opportunistic, VOTE: Alianna"? Is that being lumped in with "don't like votes on Merlyn"? It shouldn't be imo, it's the strongest stance T3 has taken all game.
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Post Post #392 (ISO) » Fri May 19, 2023 8:05 pm

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There's also a progression from questioning GS and seemingly scumleaning/maybe scumreading them (beginning of the ISO to ) to saying they feel different from a past scumgame () and questioning Doc's S/S theory on them and Merlyn (). There's content in there, it's just not super strong stances.
And now I want to know what happened between those posts, because it doesn't quite add up.
@T3 - could you elaborate on how you're reading GS and what changed for you?
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Post Post #393 (ISO) » Fri May 19, 2023 8:07 pm

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*and by "doesn't quite add up," I mean there isn't enough explanation of what changed and it feels like a piece of that progression is missing.
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Post Post #394 (ISO) » Fri May 19, 2023 8:17 pm

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In post 391, Alianna wrote: How'd you miss "Alianna vote is opportunistic, VOTE: Alianna"? Is that being lumped in with "don't like votes on Merlyn"? It shouldn't be imo, it's the strongest stance T3 has taken all game.
Considering it doesn't come with an actual strength of read, yeah i do lump it into the same category, because that could vary from Null and trying to get a read by calling it opportunistic to 100% this is scum and i am death tunneling.
In post 392, Alianna wrote: There's also a progression from questioning GS and seemingly scumleaning/maybe scumreading them (beginning of the ISO to ) to saying they feel different from a past scumgame () and questioning Doc's S/S theory on them and Merlyn (). There's content in there, it's just not super strong stances.
And now I want to know what happened between those posts, because it doesn't quite add up.
@T3 - could you elaborate on how you're reading GS and what changed for you?
If you can't name a read from a progression, does that progression really exist, in terms of making someone less of a lurker, then KT who has given solid reads on some people, whereas again, T3 hasn't.

Again, lurking on the edge is like exactly what you and T3 and Skygazer have been doing, KT i don't think deserves to be anywhere near that list (again, actual unambiguous reads, not just lurking on the side), and neither does Drew (and Merlyn started this list with Drew/Alianna)
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Post Post #395 (ISO) » Fri May 19, 2023 8:40 pm

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I mean, Kitty's whole read on you is "Jason town btw." Zero reasoning. Zero justification. Zero thought process. Sure, it's solid, but there's nothing solid behind it.
I don't particularly like you taking Kitty out of the lurker group when they have exactly one justified read, but I don't see this argument going anywhere. It's likely a playstyle thing, and we're polar opposite in that respect, so...yeah.
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Post Post #396 (ISO) » Fri May 19, 2023 8:40 pm

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Doc isn't lurking though. Idk where that came from.
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Post Post #397 (ISO) » Fri May 19, 2023 8:49 pm

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It's more just, that if we are going to call that being a lurker, then we get to the point where the whole player list is counted, i think the bigger issue is in {Alianna, T3, Skygazer) anyway.

But that might just be me putting value in actual reads and not just what T3 does in general.
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Post Post #398 (ISO) » Fri May 19, 2023 11:33 pm

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In post 327, Doctor Drew wrote: UNVOTE:
In post 323, GrandpaSpino wrote: I know I was harsh on you earlier, and I apologize for that. I will admit I did have confirmation bias, but I do still think you are the vote for today.

I am trying to figure out who your possible partner could be if you're scum.

I want to explore this for right now.

VOTE: KittyTacky
Well this supports my SvS theory for Merlyn/BianMo.

VOTE: Merlyn

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ur all over the place bud. me and meryln can never be s/s if im risking to bus my partner day 1 and make a push that would be unnecessary if i was scum. don't forget that im the one who started this push all i can do is just pull some bullshit on you actually and push u out if I was scum and you were town. im assuming you are assuming we are the same alignment

you're probably merylns partner -- ur the only one who's been all over the place and literally said i am not scum because I acted different than my scum game wit u

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Post Post #399 (ISO) » Fri May 19, 2023 11:37 pm

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In post 392, Alianna wrote: There's also a progression from questioning GS and seemingly scumleaning/maybe scumreading them (beginning of the ISO to ) to saying they feel different from a past scumgame () and questioning Doc's S/S theory on them and Merlyn (). There's content in there, it's just not super strong stances.
And now I want to know what happened between those posts, because it doesn't quite add up.
@T3 - could you elaborate on how you're reading GS and what changed for you?
its funny because t3 does this a lot on both allginments and I have been wrong every single time.

also its funny u point that out because thats when Drew was implying I was town because they said I was acting different but now say I'm s/s with meryln

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