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[Enchant]

Hi guys I claim Benediction!
Any CC's?

You are bad at scumclaiming. Watch and learn.

I HAVE

GREEN

ROLE PM

[Enchant]

I love court proceedings!
What alignment are you?

Malediction, obviously. What else would prosecution be?

Anyway, enough joking, I see an off ramp out of RVS. What is this, we have an innocent child already?

I agree it's time to get off RVS, but how does saying "we have an innocent child already?" do that?
VOTE: Feysal

I also suspect that Enchant's greenscum claim makes them have >rand chance of being redscum, so I'm going to

FoS: Enchant

.

I guess you will be nightkilled

[Enchant]

Idk about you but i would't be happy to be D1 innocent child, this role is pretty sucking

[Enchant]

VOTE: Dragon

[Enchant]

Why you ask about Benediction but not... What name of red faction anyway?

Is this because they are red?

[Enchant]

Malediction. Aha.

[Enchant]

Why you ask about Benediction but not... What name of red faction anyway?

Is this because they are red?

Because they are red, yes, and because well... Malediction sounds a lot more antagonistic then Benediction does.
And also, you're the one who associated scumclaiming with claiming a green role card, which I'd consider a potential slip if this wasn't RVS given the circumstances.

Oh if they are good what about they claim D1?

[Enchant]

Why you ask about Benediction but not... What name of red faction anyway?

Is this because they are red?

Because they are red, yes, and because well... Malediction sounds a lot more antagonistic then Benediction does.
And also, you're the one who associated scumclaiming with claiming a green role card, which I'd consider a potential slip if this wasn't RVS given the circumstances.

Oh if they are good what about they claim D1?

Would you ask masons to claim day 1 if their existence as an informed group but not their alignment was confirmed to all from the start?

Yes

[Enchant]

benediction could be a benign scum group but i don’t know that it’s wise to make assumptions yet.

I'm not making assumptions one way or another, just pointing out a potential slip. Like I said, day two or once we get some flavor we might get more insight into what is happening in regards to what the threats to Invocation are.

It's not slip. RH9 are fan of multiballs and townsided of hell setups.

[Enchant]

I think it's more scumslip to assume one of them as benefiting.

[Enchant]

Wait why you consider "Scumclaim" is slip when GREEN is not part of town and therefore scum?

[Enchant]

Like let's presume they benefit town. How you call them? Not Town but Not Scum?

[Enchant]

Survivors are not scum, because they are not informed minority.

[Enchant]

Benediction is confirmed to be informed minority, therefore scum.

[Enchant]

I think it's not more letter eating like "scum not scum" it's more that you assume that one of teams could benefit town which is not assumption commonly made.

[Enchant]

But yet you accuse me of scumslip for mentioning them as scum.

[Enchant]

I would say that we should definitely act as if they are a threat to town on day 1 when we are without further information. Doesn't stop me from presenting the possibility of it being otherwise, I'm just wondering why you specifically went with green colored role card as a scum claim instead of going red colored role card.

BECAUSE GREEN IS MOST COMMON TOWN COLOR DUDE

[Enchant]

Imagine explaining jokes

[Enchant]

PoTeNtIAl scumslip for calling scum scum mmaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Enchant]

I think we just stop rubbing issue for now

[Enchant]

Benediction is bad because mafia is not about happiness, but psychological torture.

[Enchant]

Jester IC would be an insane role.

[Enchant]

Sadly i gonna ruin it but Innocent Child Jester IS possible.

But IC reveal Alignment of player. Therefore, everyone will receive message like "CLOWN are Jester!".

[Enchant]

I think we had "close enough" role in... that cult shit i forgot name of game sorry

[Enchant]

what

[Enchant]

Game is not normal though.

[Enchant]

Can someone townread me

[Enchant]

Can someone townread me

enchant wagon sucks, 99% chance it flips green.

Thanks

[Enchant]

I don't need you

[Enchant]

Why people i don't know claim they know me

[Enchant]

I think i remember now

[Enchant]

Who are invocation?

[Enchant]

I forgot

[Enchant]

Based

[Enchant]

(i also fell for it)

[Enchant]

VOTE: Rautherdir

[Enchant]

Oh by the way i asked what "Mod Misdirection" means so yeah, your Role PMs also can lie.

[Enchant]

Basically that's "Fuck you" kind of game.

[Enchant]

enchant is totally in their scum meta here. like, look at their iso and then look at this.

Do you have a read on Enchant?

Dude it's clearly explained on link!

[Enchant]

Wait, this has already started?

@Narration, I did not receive a daystart PM.

Wait a sec while I read the thread...

This... is actually a massive towntell, right?
I think if Blue is scum he'd have, like, he'd know the day started by either scum PT locking or his buddy telling him, right?

A social deduction game is a game in which players attempt to uncover each other's hidden role or team allegiance. Commonly, these games are played with teams, with one team being considered "good" and another being "bad". During gameplay, players can use logic and deductive reasoning to try to deduce one another's roles, while other players can bluff to keep players from suspecting them.

[Enchant]

Fine.
VOTE: Dragon, E-1

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Enchant]

Cmon Dragon entertain me with claim.

[Enchant]

Malediction sorry. I deliberately misspelled it to look like I'm not Malediction

I love that you are admitting it.
Wanna vote Rauther instead? Did you see my reasoning against them?

Sure, I can see that claiming to have been 'baiting' to explain away a previous statement could be seen as scum backtracking.

My best ChatGPT impression^

Seriously though, I have mixed feelings. In one of many games I lost recently as town, another player deliberately didn't share their true viewpoint in the hope that scum would act a certain way (Klick in Hollow Knight), but I don't think that's quite comparable to this instance.

I'll join you, why not?

If I had to choose another vote today, it would probably be Enchant. When Abnegation made that joke, I did actually ISO Enchant, and I didn't love what I saw. So maybe we could queue that one up for tomorrow.

VOTE: Rautherdir

I don't like queueing up votes, especially after Newbie 2114, but I am willing to look at an Enchant wagon.

Care to say what specifically don't you like there?

Why every time i don't hammer i regret it?

[Enchant]

You consider to vote me and stab in the back.

Yes i do regret it.

[Enchant]

Enchant, do you think Ice is scum then?

idk i am just mad

[Enchant]

... I think greenscum is wiped already.

[Enchant]

Oh wait i misread townpost well ok

[Enchant]

Sup yall

I'm alive and well

VOTE: Enchant

I know asking why me is scummy but

why me

[Enchant]

Sup yall

I'm alive and well

VOTE: Enchant

I know asking why me is scummy but

why me

Who else?

brujh

[Enchant]

And what team you think i am

[Enchant]

Maybe role madness just makes him happy idk

ja

[Enchant]

I am still shocked that member of benediction tried to argue to me that benediction could be good team

[Enchant]

So.

Why only one kill?

[Enchant]

(You'll all be relieved to know I have no other questions for now )

So.

Why only one kill?

Feels like it could be 37 different reasons? Do you have an opinion?

no

[Enchant]

(You'll all be relieved to know I have no other questions for now )

@
Immediately asks question

[Enchant]

I doubt you get response soon.

[Enchant]

Let's use dice roll

[Enchant]

VOTE: Abnegation

[Enchant]

No

[Enchant]

Why not, I don't really like you

[Enchant]

might go look back at those reads and post a couple things if i think they're worth it.

you know what, i can't resist the chance to use pretty rainbow colours, so the tl;dr is this:
-

actiondan

makes way too much sense to be scum and i'll take the L if they are
-

icedragon70

is clear of green because of mech
-

enchant

is also clear of green because of their interactions with

rautherdir

- both of those are also townleans red-wise
-

hugir

is a townlean because idk vibes lol, red/green equity is equal if they're scum
-

bluesnakelet

is pretty much dead null and we need a replacement
-

kawaiikame

sus amogus
- i didn't get to isoing

feysal

,

aisa

,

furtiveglance

, or

the keeper

reads are listed in order of town to scum. there is a logic to the colours though.

Should't you clear The Keeper from being automatically

[Enchant]

Let's sheep IC who is naturally immortal for whole game like why not

[Enchant]

VOTE: Kawaii

[Enchant]

Pretending

based

[Enchant]

enchant, teach me how to play this setup

What exactly you want to know

[Enchant]

enchant, teach me how to play this setup

What exactly you want to know

can you paraphrase the setup like youre trying to explain it to me like im 5

Multiball bastard.

Knowing that RH9 creator of this (who also created Dictator role and put it as third party in game where i replaced in).
Dictator abilities? Can visit target. Target will think that they are visited by player with same alignment, like Friendly Neighbour of sorts, but it's false: If target achives victory condition, Dictator also win. In game where i again replaced in, said Dictator was Anti-social and it was told before game.

Atleast RH9 directly told there's third party in game, so i guess we don't get surprise like this. I hope.


Therefore, doubting everything mod says about clears is given, because he mostly likes to put them as false for some reason.

... Ah yes, RH9 games are also townsided as fuck but it's different matter.

[Enchant]

Right now i know nothing, but fact that Green mafia team didn't try to kill Innocent Child.

[Enchant]

okay.

how about like i'm 3?

aguuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[Enchant]

okay.

how about like i'm 3?

Green & red bad; blue good

Scum is not guaranteed to have a standard factional kill, and probably doesn't. A green told us that scum don't want to, or can't, cross-nk for some reason.

And the mod can lie, anything goes

Reason simple, to kill town faster.

[Enchant]

First person to claim Vanilla Townie gets prize

[Enchant]

Redirections is not normal, and depending on how they resolved: Bastard.

For example if Cop can be silently redirected from town to mafia and get result "Your target is mafia!" then it's bastard as fuck.

[Enchant]

I think as long as investigatives told who they actually targeted it's perfectly okay

[Enchant]

Wait can i hammer?

VOTE: Kawaii

[Enchant]

fuuuuuuuuuuuuu

[Enchant]

UNVOTE:

Holding lifes in hands.

[Enchant]

VOTE: Kawaii

So this is scumclaim

[Enchant]

I needed a big action to get scum to come after me later. Sure town will too, but that's a minigame for me to discern.

No you did it to piss me off because Kawaii on E-1 like day or so

[Enchant]

We are one step before elo, and i got targeted by scum ability.

[Enchant]

Massclaim commence?

[Enchant]

VOTE: The Keeper

Nope.

[Enchant]

We are one step before elo, and i got targeted by scum ability.

It was a town ability

Fucking thrower.

[Enchant]

Fuck this.


I am Relation, basically parity cop of variant where i check relationship with previous target. My targets are:
N1: IceDragon. Nothing.
N2: Aisa. Shares alignment with IceDragon.


Furtive just loverised me with self for fucking no reason so my chances to survive next night nosedived anyway.

[Enchant]

VOTE: Feysal

[Enchant]

Don't hope i will talk with you.

[Enchant]

Why not Feysal

[Enchant]

Don't hope i will talk with you.

I'm in the doghouse

Without dinner

[Enchant]

Regardless of how much i want to choke furtive, voting is waste.

[Enchant]

Where our IC

[Enchant]

VOTE: Hugir

[Enchant]

I can still roll dice, but you will still be angry

[Enchant]

Also no fuck no, when i learnt about love i instantly assumed it's scummy doing and was not amused learning that it's furtive guilt, dude just singlehandedly moved game to potential elo and ruined my chance to third check.


I am not furious about it at this point, i am in state of acceptance and don't really care how you will win this after my demise.

[Enchant]

Just in a case: Redirecting players on self for town-redirector is big no-no and warrants a policy.

[Enchant]

Well uh.

I targeted ActionDan, not same alignment.


Hold up while i ask if i know about redirections or not. Cuz i dunno.

[Enchant]

Oh wait.

IceDragon did made me unable to be redirected?...

Right?...

[Enchant]

Well uh.

I targeted ActionDan, not same alignment.


Hold up while i ask if i know about redirections or not. Cuz i dunno.

Why did you not check me??????????????

I didn't expect to live.

[Enchant]

I counted for a bit.

Regardless of what team AD is, even if town somehow, we are screwed due mafia just doublekilling me+furtive, turning this in parity.

I fucking hate lovers.

[Enchant]

I don't know about redirections is this wonderful

[Enchant]

Cringe

[Enchant]

The only questions I will willingly answer will be clarifications on why Hugir is green scum. Thus, Higir you may not want to ask questions

Why surrendered so fast?

[Enchant]

You are bad at interviews

[Enchant]

Take everything AD says with a grain of salt. This is 100% done to the benefit of his wincon.

Great death posting imo.

WIFOM of it all gonna dominate.


Also, Feysal ignoring the possibility of FurtScum with her double loverizer talk is like…come on.

Hugir scumclaimed already

[Enchant]

Whatever.

[Enchant]

And enchant,


Your the only town alive

not surprised

[Enchant]

Don't worry i will blame Flavor Leaf

[Enchant]

Don't worry i will blame Flavor Leaf

Eh, still better than giving up because I didn't like a night action that happened :shrug:

I don't understand this jab.

[Enchant]

im just jabbin' to jab back. If you talked to me in person, it would make more sense tone wise probs, most of my stuff is just playful verbal back and forths.

I rarely ever am actually harshing down on people.

I was sarcastic if anything. Imagine being mad at mafia. Of course i didn't put sunglasses emoji, which made it sound not sarcastic but hey, now you know.


But i didn't really give up (i just got bored because being conf while also being doomed is demotivating). Atleast i voted correctly for the end, which is most important.

[Enchant]

I suppose I need to make my question more explicit, because I do want to understand this. Even though it no longer matters.

@Narration:
What happened on night 3? How did Furtive survive our attempt to kill him?

I know this, benediction targeted furtive with action which redirects other actions.

So basically you killed IceDragon instead.