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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:21 am

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In post 46, Enchant wrote:
In post 45, Rautherdir wrote:
In post 42, Enchant wrote: Why you ask about Benediction but not... What name of red faction anyway?

Is this because they are red?
Because they are red, yes, and because well... Malediction sounds a lot more antagonistic then Benediction does.
And also, you're the one who associated scumclaiming with claiming a green role card, which I'd consider a potential slip if this wasn't RVS given the circumstances.
Oh if they are good what about they claim D1?
Would you ask masons to claim day 1 if their existence as an informed group but not their alignment was confirmed to all from the start?
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:21 am

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In post 50, Rautherdir wrote:
In post 46, Enchant wrote:
In post 45, Rautherdir wrote:
In post 42, Enchant wrote: Why you ask about Benediction but not... What name of red faction anyway?

Is this because they are red?
Because they are red, yes, and because well... Malediction sounds a lot more antagonistic then Benediction does.
And also, you're the one who associated scumclaiming with claiming a green role card, which I'd consider a potential slip if this wasn't RVS given the circumstances.
Oh if they are good what about they claim D1?
Would you ask masons to claim day 1 if their existence as an informed group but not their alignment was confirmed to all from the start?
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:22 am

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wanted this to be a pagetop but oh well.
i’m a fancy miller. i show to alignment checks as malediction on odd nights and benediction on even nights.
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:23 am

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In post 47, Abnegation wrote: benediction could be a benign scum group but i don’t know that it’s wise to make assumptions yet.
I'm not making assumptions one way or another, just pointing out a potential slip. Like I said, day two or once we get some flavor we might get more insight into what is happening in regards to what the threats to Invocation are.
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:23 am

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i’m a manifestation of aversion.
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:24 am

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In post 53, Rautherdir wrote:
In post 47, Abnegation wrote: benediction could be a benign scum group but i don’t know that it’s wise to make assumptions yet.
I'm not making assumptions one way or another, just pointing out a potential slip. Like I said, day two or once we get some flavor we might get more insight into what is happening in regards to what the threats to Invocation are.
It's not slip. RH9 are fan of multiballs and townsided of hell setups.
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:25 am

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In post 53, Rautherdir wrote:
In post 47, Abnegation wrote: benediction could be a benign scum group but i don’t know that it’s wise to make assumptions yet.
I'm not making assumptions one way or another, just pointing out a potential slip. Like I said, day two or once we get some flavor we might get more insight into what is happening in regards to what the threats to Invocation are.
how is that a slip though? benediction is coloured green in the opening posts, it’s not a stretch that someone would read them.
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:27 am

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I will say my role name sounds much more powerful then the actual ability actually is. I'm actually not sure at all how to use my role to any benefit, though it is role madness so uh... maybe there's some use to even something like what I have?
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:28 am

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In post 56, Abnegation wrote:
In post 53, Rautherdir wrote:
In post 47, Abnegation wrote: benediction could be a benign scum group but i don’t know that it’s wise to make assumptions yet.
I'm not making assumptions one way or another, just pointing out a potential slip. Like I said, day two or once we get some flavor we might get more insight into what is happening in regards to what the threats to Invocation are.
how is that a slip though? benediction is coloured green in the opening posts, it’s not a stretch that someone would read them.
The potential slip was stating that claiming a green colored role card (Benediction) is claiming scum.
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:30 am

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But. I'm not really going to chase it, just bringing up the possibility that it was a slip for future reference.

I do not know the meta for most anyone here, including the mod, so I won't really be factoring that in.
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:31 am

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... Actually it is RVS still (I think) and this is as good a reason to vote someone as any at this stage, so VOTE: Enchant
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:33 am

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I think it's more scumslip to assume one of them as benefiting.
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:35 am

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In post 1, Narration wrote: Flavour has no bearing on the alignments of players, so don't use it to make arguments.
Oh, I missed this. I guess we'll just have to figure it out through what night actions happen or if we flip a Malediction/Benediction and it says in their role pm who the threats to town are.
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:36 am

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Wait why you consider "Scumclaim" is slip when GREEN is not part of town and therefore scum?
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:37 am

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Like let's presume they benefit town. How you call them? Not Town but Not Scum?
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:39 am

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I mean the name is literally benediction.

Survivors are not town but not scum, as an example
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:41 am

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Survivors are not scum, because they are not informed minority.
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:41 am

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Benediction is confirmed to be informed minority, therefore scum.
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:45 am

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Masons are informed, though their alignment is town so not the minority.

Is it the case that an informed minority is always scum? Cause if so then yeah, my point is invalid.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:49 am

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I think it's not more letter eating like "scum not scum" it's more that you assume that one of teams could benefit town which is not assumption commonly made.
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:51 am

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I would say that we should definitely act as if they are a threat to town on day 1 when we are without further information. Doesn't stop me from presenting the possibility of it being otherwise, I'm just wondering why you specifically went with green colored role card as a scum claim instead of going red colored role card.
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:52 am

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In post 69, Enchant wrote: I think it's not more letter eating like "scum not scum" it's more that you assume that one of teams could benefit town which is not assumption commonly made.
I mean, Benediction does not sound very antagonistic, and we are in a game where the mod can misdirect.
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:52 am

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But yet you accuse me of scumslip for mentioning them as scum.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:53 am

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In post 70, Rautherdir wrote: I would say that we should definitely act as if they are a threat to town on day 1 when we are without further information. Doesn't stop me from presenting the possibility of it being otherwise, I'm just wondering why you specifically went with green colored role card as a scum claim instead of going red colored role card.
BECAUSE GREEN IS MOST COMMON TOWN COLOR DUDE
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Fri Mar 31, 2023 3:53 am

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