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Post Post #6325 (ISO) » Fri May 12, 2023 12:48 pm

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You can skip everything until D5 though. That’s basically scum-me in a PoE pool.
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Post Post #6326 (ISO) » Fri May 12, 2023 12:51 pm

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GiF I have a problem with that
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Post Post #6327 (ISO) » Fri May 12, 2023 1:08 pm

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You do look different in that game on a quick skim, you are a lot more active and involved whereas here it feels like you're going out of your way to avoid doing things instead. You are very mech minded too.
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Post Post #6328 (ISO) » Fri May 12, 2023 1:15 pm

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In post 6327, Dunnstral wrote: you are a lot more active and involved
This is the problem I have
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Post Post #6329 (ISO) » Fri May 12, 2023 1:19 pm

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arent differences from his scum game good in this context?
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Post Post #6330 (ISO) » Fri May 12, 2023 1:48 pm

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The difference is that his investment in that game over this one is now hindering my capacity of reading him
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Post Post #6331 (ISO) » Fri May 12, 2023 1:49 pm

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He is more laid back in this game and that’s classic town!GiF. If he was investing more time in that other game, being laid back could be a consequence of that instead of being genuine
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Post Post #6332 (ISO) » Fri May 12, 2023 1:50 pm

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I think the answer is that GiF is just town but I would’ve rather not know the existence of that other game and avoid me the paranoia
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Post Post #6333 (ISO) » Fri May 12, 2023 1:54 pm

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Post Post #6334 (ISO) » Fri May 12, 2023 1:57 pm

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Although the reason why I said focus on D5 of that game is because it’s the only part of the game where I actually efforted after getting guilty’d (fake) and literally scum claiming the day before. I kinda wanted to see if I could get away with it. If you’re really worried about the general game tempo, that day lasted 5 rl days.
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Post Post #6335 (ISO) » Fri May 12, 2023 2:10 pm

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In post 6327, Dunnstral wrote: You do look different in that game on a quick skim, you are a lot more active and involved whereas here it feels like you're going out of your way to avoid doing things instead. You are very mech minded too.
Shading aside, me being mech minded isn’t alignment indicative. I was mech heavy in my scum game (because I had to), and I was mech heavy in demon slayer (because it’s a role madness). I guess if you’re town you could look at why I’m approaching things like I am that is more than just “GIF is just being fucking lazy” but I still don’t think you’re town so.
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Post Post #6336 (ISO) » Fri May 12, 2023 2:11 pm

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(By the way, I
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very lazy, especially when it comes to [re]reading.)
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Post Post #6337 (ISO) » Fri May 12, 2023 2:19 pm

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In post 6302, Dunnstral wrote: The last 2 pages are ZZZ

Does anybody think it is weird that GiF doesn't talk about me when evaluating reads?
Why is it weird that I’m not taking about you?
What headspace do you think I’m in rn?
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Post Post #6338 (ISO) » Fri May 12, 2023 2:22 pm

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My MO this game day is literally “STD/Drixx
is unlikely to be S/S due to their D1 interaction so imma find out which one is town” and “I think there are 3 scum.” All my posts today was made with these in mind.
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Post Post #6339 (ISO) » Fri May 12, 2023 2:29 pm

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Like I think I’ve been making crystal clear for most of the day. Had you were actually interested in my reads or something I feel like the first question you would’ve asked was “what makes them not SvS?” But I don’t think you ever asked that and instead was all like “ooh he’s not mentioning Drixx” and “he’s not trying to do anything.”
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Post Post #6340 (ISO) » Fri May 12, 2023 2:45 pm

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In post 6335, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 6327, Dunnstral wrote: You do look different in that game on a quick skim, you are a lot more active and involved whereas here it feels like you're going out of your way to avoid doing things instead. You are very mech minded too.
Shading aside, me being mech minded isn’t alignment indicative. I was mech heavy in my scum game (because I had to), and I was mech heavy in demon slayer (because it’s a role madness). I guess if you’re town you could look at why I’m approaching things like I am that is more than just “GIF is just being fucking lazy” but I still don’t think you’re town so.
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Post Post #6341 (ISO) » Fri May 12, 2023 2:46 pm

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In post 6337, GuyInFreezer wrote:
In post 6302, Dunnstral wrote: The last 2 pages are ZZZ

Does anybody think it is weird that GiF doesn't talk about me when evaluating reads?
Why is it weird that I’m not taking about you?
What headspace do you think I’m in rn?
You think I'm mafia, I'm voting Drixx. What are your thoughts on that?

Instead you're not acknowledging it. I think that is weird.
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Post Post #6342 (ISO) » Fri May 12, 2023 2:48 pm

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In post 6339, GuyInFreezer wrote: Like I think I’ve been making crystal clear for most of the day. Had you were actually interested in my reads or something I feel like the first question you would’ve asked was “what makes them not SvS?” But I don’t think you ever asked that and instead was all like “ooh he’s not mentioning Drixx” and “he’s not trying to do anything.”
I think my points are valid regardless of what you think I should be asking you
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Post Post #6343 (ISO) » Fri May 12, 2023 2:51 pm

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Okay guys, THIS is my assistant in these matters, Detective Darryl

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And THIS is a crude map of Drixx's iso

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Post Post #6344 (ISO) » Fri May 12, 2023 3:01 pm

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What is "Big Sexy"
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Post Post #6345 (ISO) » Fri May 12, 2023 3:03 pm

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OK I see upon further review
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Post Post #6346 (ISO) » Fri May 12, 2023 3:04 pm

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Players circled in green are the town players who have flipped and died. Living players are not circled.
Drixx's interactions toward other players are noted as follows:
A green line indicates a statement that suggests the person is town. A red line does likewise when Drixx shaded them as scum in some way or another. Purple is for potentially significant, but null-seeming interactions.

I have at one point mistakingly circled both Black and PB in red where Drixx suggested they were linked. Black should be circled green, and PB should be circled not at all, with the line between them being red (as Drixx seemed to suggest if one was scum, so was the other)

My interpretation of this data is that Drixx went a LONG time taking zero (or nearly zero) stance on three players: GiF, FA, Dunnstral. Ordinarily, if Drixx flipped scum, I would think this meant that he had at least one, if not two buddies in this group. However, the PoE problem we now find ourselves in already suggests that to be the case.

Drixx also spent a lot of time shading every single dead town player at one point or another with the exception of Firebringer. Drixx very consistently spent the majority of the first two days going after both Black and Titus. Drixx also called GiF town for nearly the entire game until day three, where GiF is inexplicably in the scum pile. Is this due to PoE? I don't know, because Drixx also has shaded the PoE itself significantly. Frozen Angel also gets shade here, finding herself in the middle of the "who would you eliminate first," but is another spot that Drixx didn't really shade a whole lot before the PoE.

Therefore, my analysis of Drixx is as follows: IF Drixx is scum, and IF there are three rather than four, I feel it's likely that FA and GiF are the buddies. I can't assume three instead of four because it's unsafe to do so. However, I can only elim one scum at a time and if the game ends after three instead of four then all the better. Based on Drixx's ISO, however, I don't see him being scum with STD. I don't THINK I see him being scum with Dunnstral either.
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Post Post #6347 (ISO) » Fri May 12, 2023 3:04 pm

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In post 6344, Dunnstral wrote: What is "Big Sexy"
You're talkin' to him :cool:
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Post Post #6348 (ISO) » Fri May 12, 2023 3:09 pm

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that was originally going to be a corkboard with red string but I'm happy with the whiteboard
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Post Post #6349 (ISO) » Fri May 12, 2023 3:18 pm

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I'm not scum, so adjust your reasoning appropriately. If you want to bet the game has only 3 scum, you can feel free to rope me to prove that. I personally have already said I think we're in a 4 scum world, which is the only reason I've even bothered to fight it.
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