Mini 709 - Musical Mafia - (Game Over!)

[WhereIsTony]

I am not suggesting we kill him, only that we may not want to tell him who to target.

If we do that though, if he is a SKer then we are removing our means of control over him, leaving him free to kill whoever he pleases.

If, after N1, we see that there is a roleblocker in the game, then we'll need to deal with this. But until we have some further evidence that a roleblocker exists, I don't want to relinquish any holds we have over Gamma.

Good idea, perhaps aiming him on N1, and seeing how it goes would be best.

Vote Count:
Atlas - (0)
Budja - (0)
corporate - (0)
Gamma - (0)
jerseygoomba - (1) Atlas
JordanA24 - (0)
My Milked Eek - (0)
Nekka-Lucifer - (3) zachattack, Wall-E, Tolmides
Tolmides - (0)
Wall-E - (5) Nekka-Lucifer, My Milked Eek, corporate, WhereIsTony, jerseygoomba
WhereIsTony - (0)
zachattack - (0)

With 12 alive, 7 votes will end the day.

[jerseygoomba]

Guys, do you SERIOUSLY think you have any "control" over Gamma? Especially when there is no concrete ways of validating who killed who? We don't even know if Gamma's claim is true. I think we are deluding ourselves if we think we can point Gamma like a gun and "shoot" people. That being said, I'm not convinced Gamma is scum, which is why I unvoted him.

As for my vote on Wall-E, I have thought he was scum for awhile, and he put out the challenge in post 130. I wanted to see if he would actually claim like he said in his post and I found it interesting that he didn't. (Not suspicious, just interesting).

Jordan and Tolmides, I'm not sure what I have done to earn your NK votes, so please come up with some logical rationale.

[JordanA24]

Guys, do you SERIOUSLY think you have any "control" over Gamma? Especially when there is no concrete ways of validating who killed who? We don't even know if Gamma's claim is true. I think we are deluding ourselves if we think we can point Gamma like a gun and "shoot" people. That being said, I'm not convinced Gamma is scum, which is why I unvoted him.

As for my vote on Wall-E, I have thought he was scum for awhile, and he put out the challenge in post 130. I wanted to see if he would actually claim like he said in his post and I found it interesting that he didn't. (Not suspicious, just interesting).

Jordan and Tolmides, I'm not sure what I have done to earn your NK votes, so please come up with some logical rationale.

I think you need to read Post 267 closer jersey

[Gamma]

Guys, do you SERIOUSLY think you have any "control" over Gamma? Especially when there is no concrete ways of validating who killed who? We don't even know if Gamma's claim is true. I think we are deluding ourselves if we think we can point Gamma like a gun and "shoot" people. That being said, I'm not convinced Gamma is scum, which is why I unvoted him.

As for my vote on Wall-E, I have thought he was scum for awhile, and he put out the challenge in post 130. I wanted to see if he would actually claim like he said in his post and I found it interesting that he didn't. (Not suspicious, just interesting).

Jordan and Tolmides, I'm not sure what I have done to earn your NK votes, so please come up with some logical rationale.

I think I smell some terror because you're getting considered for my NK tonight.

fos jerseygoomba

also, i'm not entirely sold on Wall-e being scum- in fact, being a dickweed doesn't equal scum at all.

And I don't like Tolmides play. In fact, I hate it.

HATE

[zachattack]

I really don't like Nekka's play here. He claims clarinet player, and I questioned him on his win condition shortly after. Instead of answering he disappears for 4 days, gets prodded, posts a short comment with no content, ignores any questions asked of him, then disappears again. The thing is I actually believed his claim, and was only going to leave my vote on him until he answered my question, then change it to corporate or maybe jersey. However, the fact that I asked him a question

6 days ago

, and still haven't gotten an answer has made me suspicious of him again.

I think instead of telling Gamma exactly who to kill, we should give him 2 or 3 choices, and allow him to make the final decision at night. Then when night is over, he tells us who he targeted. Good idea? Bad idea?

[Gamma]

Bad idea. I'd simply kill the player that I suspect/dislike the most.

But I'm a slave to the will of the people.

[Wall-E]

Wall-E, your behaviour is ridiculous... calm down, stop being sarcy, stop insulting every other player and PLAY THE DAMN GAME! It would help your case a lot.

Should we choose to lynch Wall-E today, who does everyone think we should get Gamma to NK tonight? Personally I'm torn between corporate and jerseygoomba, I suspect jersey for mindlessly putting Wall-E at -1 at the top of this page, following Budja in voting for Gamma for exactly the same reasoning (so bandwagoning on an easy target who can be of a lot of use to the town) and generally not bringing anything new to the thread. He's attempting to stay under the radar by the looks of it, which looks pretty scummy.

Why, in the first part of this post, do you ask "Should we lynch Wall-E today?"

Did you know the votecount at the time?

[Wall-E]

I also notice you posted your top two. Why is the possibility of my lynch just as weighty in your mind as TWO other people you suspect are scum more than me, to the extent that the opinion of the general town consensus will convince you to forget BOTH of them and instead vote for me, a third choice?

[Wall-E]

Nekka
Jersey
corp
Jordan

STOP BEING SCUMMY

[Wall-E]

Guys, do you SERIOUSLY think you have any "control" over Gamma? Especially when there is no concrete ways of validating who killed who? We don't even know if Gamma's claim is true. I think we are deluding ourselves if we think we can point Gamma like a gun and "shoot" people. That being said, I'm not convinced Gamma is scum, which is why I unvoted him.

As for my vote on Wall-E, I have thought he was scum for awhile, and he put out the challenge in post 130. I wanted to see if he would actually claim like he said in his post and I found it interesting that he didn't. (Not suspicious, just interesting).

This post redeems you in my eyes quite a bit, but where did I say I would claim?

Further clarification is desired. Thanks.

[Tolmides]

And I don't like Tolmides play. In fact, I hate it.

Oh? Care to elaborate?

I'm tending to agree with zach, Nekka has had plenty of time to respond now and is avoiding our questions.

[Budja]

Vote Nekka

Until we actually get some answers.

I'm still watching you Wall-E .

[WhereIsTony]

It's funny how it took the town majority this long to get to the same place I've been pointing at since page 2.

So, we are not killing Gamma. Everyone get your votes onto ANYONE else. Yes, even me. Unlike Gamma I won't claim until L-1, so be fearless and attack!

This post redeems you in my eyes quite a bit, but where did I say I would claim?

Further clarification is desired. Thanks.

Still Nekka is acting pretty sketchy.

unvote wally,

vote nekka

[WhereIsTony]

EBWOP
That is where you said you would claim, but DONT. I dont think it benfits the town.

My original post was longer i must have deleted it.

While Wally is still suspicious to me nekka is moreso .

Also

vote nekka

forgot to bold before

[Tolmides]

Unless I miscounted, that's 5 votes for Nekka. So be careful with your votes now...let's give him a chance to respond. Besides, we need to agree on the NK before we proceed into night.

[Budja]

True, Wall-E and corporate are my top 2 nightkill choices. I will go with the majority on one of those two.

[corporate]

^^why go with the wagon. you dont care who dies?

[Budja]

Not between you and Wall-E.

[JordanA24]

Wall-E, your behaviour is ridiculous... calm down, stop being sarcy, stop insulting every other player and PLAY THE DAMN GAME! It would help your case a lot.

Should we choose to lynch Wall-E today, who does everyone think we should get Gamma to NK tonight? Personally I'm torn between corporate and jerseygoomba, I suspect jersey for mindlessly putting Wall-E at -1 at the top of this page, following Budja in voting for Gamma for exactly the same reasoning (so bandwagoning on an easy target who can be of a lot of use to the town) and generally not bringing anything new to the thread. He's attempting to stay under the radar by the looks of it, which looks pretty scummy.

Why, in the first part of this post, do you ask "Should we lynch Wall-E today?"

Did you know the votecount at the time?

I did not ask "Should we lynch Wall-E today?", I asked "Who should we NK if we lynch Wall-E today?"

I also notice you posted your top two. Why is the possibility of my lynch just as weighty in your mind as TWO other people you suspect are scum more than me, to the extent that the opinion of the general town consensus will convince you to forget BOTH of them and instead vote for me, a third choice?

I never said those were my top two and you were my third choice IN FACT I said in Post 271 I said if you weren't at -2 then, I'd have been voting you, hence indicating that you were my top suspect. Stop twisting my words scum-butt.

And now I can,

Vote: Wall-E

[JordanA24]

Not between you and Wall-E.

If you had to put one in front of the other, who would be your first choice?

[Budja]

Wall-E. I did vote for him .

I am only voting for Nekka to encourage him posting. I did not expect him to be pushed to L-2. I would like to target two of Nekka, corporate and Wall-E for the NK and lynch. The top target should be lynched as Gamma's kill is unreliable and could be blocked. My top target is Wall-E to I should probably should change back but I really want to see Nekka post so I will keep up the pressure.

Also I don't like WhereIsTony's change to Nekka. It looks like you are attempting to follow the bandwagon.

[WhereIsTony]

I am trying to pressure him to answer the case against him.

I still think Wall-E is just as scummy.

I was merely trying to make it clear who my two choices were, in case we decide that we should pick gamma's target

[Wall-E]

Wall-E. I did vote for him .

I am only voting for Nekka to encourage him posting. I did not expect him to be pushed to L-2. I would like to target two of Nekka, corporate and Wall-E for the NK and lynch. The top target should be lynched as Gamma's kill is unreliable and could be blocked. My top target is Wall-E to I should probably should change back but I really want to see Nekka post so I will keep up the pressure.

Also I don't like WhereIsTony's change to Nekka. It looks like you are attempting to follow the bandwagon.

I don't understand why you would not vote your biggest suspect. Can you explain?

[Wall-E]

Unvote: Vote: Budja

Voting one person while claiming another is scummier.

Fuck my grandmother, there are way too many scummy townies in this game.

[Gamma]

Oh? Care to elaborate?

THIS IS WHAT I THINK OF THIS POST RIGHT HERE YET I AM NOT DOING ANYTHING ELSE BUT BEING COMMENTATOR ON A CERTAIN ISSUE SUCH AS HERE, WHERE I AM COMMENTING ON SOMETHING BUT NOT ACTUALLY TAKING MUCH OF AN INITIATIVE.

also, this post is wtf

Trying to guess people's roles on Day 1 is a big no-no. If he wants to claim, then he can, but by guessing what role he is, if Wall-E is scum, you're giving him ideas what to claim (which looks scummy on your part, makes you too look like scumbuddies). And if Wall-E isn't scum, it gives the real scum ideas at what Wall-E might be.

FOS: Tolmides

I see this as very much grasping at straws.

fos JordanA24