Mini 687 - Time Abuse Mafia (Game Over in Epic Fashion)

[Netlava]

I still don't like how Netlava is playing and lashing out at anyone who questions him in loud, distracting form.

Also, this is a mischaracterization, when it was the people I questioned who lashed out.

[forbiddanlight]

These too posts seem whiny to me. You seemed to be complaining about not being able to touch without really trying to make sure you did touch it. That might be trying to establish something for later on.

Well, I'd wanted to touch the damn thing since the minute it was shown, and I provided my reasoning for that. You all decided to let Net touch, and look what a waste that was. And just what would I be establishing? Third, how was I supposed to make sure I touched it? I had voted myself to touch the object, people had already set themselves for "someone useless". Honestly, I don't think you have much here.

[MafiaSSK]

Vote: Netlava

We voted him to touch because he was scummy and he got rewarded. I say we just lynch him.

Agreeing with this.

Vote: Netlava

[Grandfather Time]

Votecount

Netlava --- 5 {Forbiddanlight, RossWilliam, qwints, Natirasha, MafiaSSK}

None --- 6 {Cruciare, melikefood, pickemgenius, Vi, Netlava, Netlava}

Mainframe

Temporal Stability, nominal.
Energy Reserves, stable.
Subjects living, ten.
Quorum value, six.

[forbiddanlight]

Netlava is at L-1. We can either quickhammer so that no one has night actions (i.e, no one suicides causing everythin to go crazy, if a temporal vortex appears), or we let the day draw out to at least a temporal explosion, and other events. I'm not sure which one I prefer, to be honest.

[Natirasha]

Quicklynch, obv. It makes sense in all teams.

Serial killer gets another kill.
Mafia gets another kill and whatever powers they might have.
Town gets another day to lynch before Night Actions start going online.

[Natirasha]

Note: I'm not saying there is a serial killer, I'm simply listing plausible alignments in this game.

[Vi]

Hey, don't quicklynch without me.

Anyways, claim: descendant from the tsars. No powers.

I'm not sure I buy it. The previous topic said that this game was vanillaless. In addition, I'd like to ask if you were PMd the other effects of touching the objekt.

Town gets another day to lynch before Night Actions start going online.

Problem.
Tomorrow would be literally do-or-die massclaim time.

D1: 10 alive (9 actually so, perhaps) vs. 3 scum, maybe.
D2: 10 alive (8 actually) vs. 3.
D3, if going through with Netlava lynch: 9 alive (6 actually) vs. 3.
D3 vortex; scum jumps in -> 6 alive vs. 2. LyLo.

That said...

D2: 10 alive (8 actually) vs. 3.
D3, if going through with a mislynch on someone else: 9 alive (6 actually) vs. 3.
D3 vortex, scum jumps in -> 6 alive vs. 2. If Netlava is scum, the game is over.

I'm going to need to reread and see if I want to hammer Netlava. Until then, I'm not sure I like this wagon.

[pickemgenius]

I arrive to see Netlava is at -1 and am unsure why


I'm seeing the reasons but it feels so early.
Some say quick hammer so people don't get all squirelly.
I say hey man chill the fuck out we don't want to hurry.
Or do we?

In all seriousness I would atleast like to wait for Vi to reread and opinionate before someone does something totally dumb.

[RossWilliam]

I feel like it's best to keep everyone alive and contributing as long as possible. The net gain is the same either way, right? Like right now, one of us is probably dead and just doesn't know it yet. Let's keep that dead person scumhunting and active and using their role as long as possible, right?

[qwints]

Or we can make sure we lynch some scum before they get a chance to do any more harm. NO MORE NO LYNCHES!

[Vi]

Nyaaaaaaaaaaaaaa--
Apologies for the wait, but I'm having a hard time liking this game. It was a good idea and I'm glad I got to try it out, but it's like living in D1 until LyLo.

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All right, people I'm suspicious of.

pickemgenius - Hasn't contributed much all game. Literally, coasting. But I agree with what he has said.
melikefood - Failure to random vote, totally useless.
RossWilliam - Noncommittal throughout the game until it comes to a Netlava lynch, which he's all for. Reasonably useless.
SSK - Always useless, so it's kind of a crapshoot as to whether he's actually scum or not. But this game, he's certainly playing the part of Mafia.
Natirasha - Call it intuition if you want, but I think you're scum. Your jump onto the Netlava wagon yesterday was without justification, and you don't seem like you have anything at stake here.
forbiddanlight - Clearly waffled on melikefood, but was/is willing to push a Netlava lynch. Hmm.

Netlava - Failure to random vote, continued random voting after everyone else, reasonably useless for a while. Gets better later of his own volition, and starts to look intuitively more Town.
No read on Doomsday/qwints, leaning anti-Town.
Positive read on Cruciare.

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Natirasha. How was Scattered's role easy to see as a scum-aligned?
In Post 107 you say you'd prefer two people to touch the Objekt, but then in 112 you vote for Doomsday only to touch it. What was your motivation there?

Let's keep that dead person scumhunting and active

and using their role

as long as possible, right?

Um... what?

Netlava. Why the hell are you not voting for anyone?

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Bottom line: I'm not going to hammer Netlava.

Vote: Natirasha

I'm pretty sure every scum is on the Netlava wagon, as rereading they happen to coincide with the people I'm suspicious of. In addition, this would be a terribly easy hammer to make - especially with PEG's entrance - but it hasn't happened. Why not?
RossWilliam is most likely the hitman because he wants the day to drag out for lame reasons. More like you want to jump in and kill two people if things start to go poorly, amirite?

@mod: Prod/replace melikefood and Cruciare.

[Natirasha]

Natirasha - Call it intuition if you want, but I think you're scum. Your jump onto the Netlava wagon yesterday was without justification, and you don't seem like you have anything at stake here.

I've been on autopilot this game, I openly admit that. I think the fact that nothing is happening is the problem.

Natirasha. How was Scattered's role easy to see as a scum-aligned?

You can't see a Suicide Bomber as scum? Say, a doc just claimed with targets. The doc blocked a mafia kill. What do they do? Boom headshot their way to victory, of course.

In Post 107 you say you'd prefer two people to touch the Objekt, but then in 112 you vote for Doomsday only to touch it. What was your motivation there?
.[/b]

I have no defense. I've felt as though I've had no influence at all this game, I stated my opinions as the objekt thing came about. However, then we all came to the wavelength that "We should vote for scum to touch" and so we did.

[Vi]

However, then we all came to the wavelength that "We should vote for scum to touch" and so we did.

?

[forbiddanlight]

forbiddanlight - Clearly waffled on melikefood, but was/is willing to push a Netlava lynch. Hmm.

I don't like lurker lynches, as you should know. In fact,

Mod, can you prod melikefood

?

furthermore

All right, people I'm suspicious of.

pickemgenius - Hasn't contributed much all game. Literally, coasting. But I agree with what he has said.
melikefood - Failure to random vote, totally useless.
RossWilliam - Noncommittal throughout the game until it comes to a Netlava lynch, which he's all for. Reasonably useless.
SSK - Always useless, so it's kind of a crapshoot as to whether he's actually scum or not. But this game, he's certainly playing the part of Mafia.
Natirasha - Call it intuition if you want, but I think you're scum. Your jump onto the Netlava wagon yesterday was without justification, and you don't seem like you have anything at stake here.
forbiddanlight - Clearly waffled on melikefood, but was/is willing to push a Netlava lynch. Hmm.

Netlava - Failure to random vote, continued random voting after everyone else, reasonably useless for a while. Gets better later of his own volition, and starts to look intuitively more Town.
No read on Doomsday/qwints, leaning anti-Town.
Positive read on Cruciare.

Do we lynch people for being USELESS, or do we lynch them for being scum? Because right now this looks like a "list of useless people with a couple suspicious peeps thrown in". I don't like it.

I'm pretty sure every scum is on the Netlava wagon, as rereading they happen to coincide with the people I'm suspicious of. In addition, this would be a terribly easy hammer to make - especially with PEG's entrance - but it hasn't happened. Why not?

Because Netlava is scum.

I have no defense. I've felt as though I've had no influence at all this game, I stated my opinions as the objekt thing came about. However, then we all came to the wavelength that "We should vote for scum to touch" and so we did.

IIRC, it was actually vote useless people to touch. Even though I TOLD you that something good would happen. *still fuming over the touch being stolen from me*.

[Grandfather Time]

I already prodded them upon Vi's request. Sorry, I should have mentioned that.

[Vi]

Do we lynch people for being USELESS, or do we lynch them for being scum? Because right now this looks like a "list of useless people with a couple suspicious peeps thrown in". I don't like it.

The only two legitimately useless people are the first two. The rest are

selectively

useless (that is, generally useless until the Netlava wagon started), which raises eyebrows immediately.

Because Netlava is scum.

Why, in 100 words or fewer?

[forbiddanlight]

Why, in 100 words or fewer?

The exhortion to lynch, targetting me for weak reasons. The long drawn out WoT argument I had with him felt fake on his side, like no emotion. He gloated about getting the double vote. Basically stuff I explained before.

[RossWilliam]

im away from my computer and on a cell phone all week so this will be short.vi My point was that if lets say a doctor is Nked but no vortex is opened he can use the role the next night even tho hes been killed....i think thats why we should quicklynch so we can keep the game moving as fast as possible with as few vortexes as possible

[MafiaSSK]

im away from my computer and on a cell phone all week so this will be short.vi My point was that if lets say a doctor is Nked but no vortex is opened he can use the role the next night even tho hes been killed....i think thats why we should quicklynch so we can keep the game moving as fast as possible with as few vortexes as possible

Agreeing with this.

[Grandfather Time]

Post or massprod. I understand there is this Thanksgiving thing, but it has been three days.

[Vi]

I'm in too many games and behind in half of them; I'm not intentionally stalling. Will try to get a post in tonight.

[Grandfather Time]

Mainframe

Temporal Stability, critical.

Energy Reserves, stable.
Subjects living, ten.
Quorum value, six.

[/area]

A loud alarm sounds, and the humans inside the pods begin to writhe. Small amounts of blood begin to run out of their noses, and suddenly, a small Vortex appears in the center of the room. Each of the scientists grab on to something to keep themselves from being sucked it



The vortex will close at 2:00 AM GMT on December 3rd.

[Natirasha]

Great. Now the scum have an out if they are about to be lynched.

[forbiddanlight]

Great. Now the scum have an out if they are about to be lynched.

Which is why someone should lynch netlava NOW. Or see if he kills anyone. Then we have WIFOM to deal with *rolls eyes*