TM 2023 | Super Mario Bros Mafia | Game Over!

[petapan]

Scum are sitting here ignoring the adorable wagon

For posterity

Adorable/One of people who hasn't commented on her since that wagon started

Spoiler:

adorable is my dark horse pick for teammate throwing porkens under the bus

it's possible jingle is just having a case of mad cuz bad

[Adorable]

Can anyone give me a summary on what I have missed? I have some catching up to do and I have a meeting in 30 minutes.

[petapan]

Can anyone give me a summary on what I have missed? I have some catching up to do and I have a meeting in 30 minutes.

nothing important, a bunch of people are yelling at each other

[Cerberus v666]

I get that people are trying to protect their town reads and that consolidating the wagons is the correct thing to do, but trying to spin all the counterwagon options as non-viable is annoying dumb and wrong. Given the choice of no-lim or lim slot x, all but the most devoted of people with a town read on slot x will vote them.

Also I am being a passenger right now while the gf drives. Hi!

[Jingle]

Scum are sitting here ignoring the adorable wagon

For posterity

Adorable/One of people who hasn't commented on her since that wagon started

Spoiler:

adorable is my dark horse pick for teammate throwing porkens under the bus

it's possible jingle is just having a case of mad cuz bad

Again with the “Jingle is being emotional” narrative. Show me literally any post I’ve made, other than voicing frustration with lurking at wgeurts that is even slightly mad today. I’ll give you a hint: there isn’t one.

[Jingle]

Given the choice of no-lim or lim slot x, all but the most devoted of people with a town read on slot x will vote them.

But that’s not the choice. The choice is porkens or slot x. There are already 6 people willing to lim porkens, so no lim isn’t actually a concern.

[Cerberus v666]

Given the choice of no-lim or lim slot x, all but the most devoted of people with a town read on slot x will vote them.

But that’s not the choice. The choice is porkens or slot x. There are already 6 people willing to lim porkens, so no lim isn’t actually a concern.

Yep, but that doesn't change the fact that people are overselling how non-viable their pet town reads are at this point. Which isn't really AI yet, but is annoying the fuck out of me because it's objectively wrong.

[Jingle]

Can anyone give me a summary on what I have missed? I have some catching up to do and I have a meeting in 30 minutes.

nothing important, a bunch of people are yelling at each other

Nothing important here refers to:

Cerbs having content after being gone for a week, including an elaboration of his wgeurts stance.
Fate obvtowning while trying to shop a no go wagon to save porkens.
Peta repeatedly accusing me of being angry while arguing that I’m scum for doing something he asserts in literally the same post scum wouldn’t do.
Me being decidedly not mad.
Porkens being a foregone lim conclusion.

[Adorable]

Still not caught up and Fate's defense on Porkens pinged me.

[Cerberus v666]

Adorable do you just get pinged by people implying you're scummy? You did it to me. And now that Fate is proposing you as the cw to porkens, you're doing it to fate.

?????

[Adorable]

Adorable do you just get pinged by people implying you're scummy? You did it to me. And now that Fate is proposing you as the cw to porkens, you're doing it to fate.

?????

I often do get pinged by players who are in my poe who try to go after me. At times I feel like I am a magnet that gets scum to vote me.

[Jingle]

When you say fates push on you pinged you can you point to what you mean? I believe I know, but that’s rather ambiguous atm.

[Adorable]

When you say fates push on you pinged you can you point to what you mean? I believe I know, but that’s rather ambiguous atm.

I said Fate's defense on Porkens pinged me.

Cerb asked me a question if I often get pinged by players going after me and I thought Cerb meant that I got pinged by them for how the way they approached me before the claim.

[Cerberus v666]

Adorable do you just get pinged by people implying you're scummy? You did it to me. And now that Fate is proposing you as the cw to porkens, you're doing it to fate.

?????

I often do get pinged by players who are in my poe who try to go after me. At times I feel like I am a magnet that gets scum to vote me.

Well that's some post ipso facto bullshit.

You should try to be better.

[Jingle]

Scum are sitting here ignoring the adorable wagon

For posterity

Adorable/One of people who hasn't commented on her since that wagon started

Spoiler:

adorable is my dark horse pick for teammate throwing porkens under the bus

it's possible jingle is just having a case of mad cuz bad

This, btw, is 100% pure unadulterated posturing.

Jingle is still scum with porkens, despite my own reason for them not both being scum. But also, jingle is just a bad player, so if they flip green you shouldn’t put any credence into them scumreading me. But also also, I’m totally not ignoring adorable, she’s a scum option too, despite literally being the person who is demonstrating the behavior Fate is calling out.

[Jingle]

When you say fates push on you pinged you can you point to what you mean? I believe I know, but that’s rather ambiguous atm.

I said Fate's defense on Porkens pinged me.

Cerb asked me a question if I often get pinged by players going after me and I thought Cerb meant that I got pinged by them for how the way they approached me before the claim.

My b, but the point still stands. Can you point to where exactly you were pinged? Like, a post or a few posts you thought were particularly indicative?

[Adorable]

I'll check in here later when I'm done with the meeting.

[petapan]

Scum are sitting here ignoring the adorable wagon

For posterity

Adorable/One of people who hasn't commented on her since that wagon started

Spoiler:

adorable is my dark horse pick for teammate throwing porkens under the bus

it's possible jingle is just having a case of mad cuz bad

Again with the “Jingle is being emotional” narrative. Show me literally any post I’ve made, other than voicing frustration with lurking at wgeurts that is even slightly mad today. I’ll give you a hint: there isn’t one.

your push back on me is nothing if not an emotional one lmao

it's okay you don't have to hide it

[petapan]

Peta repeatedly accusing me of being angry while arguing that I’m scum for doing something he asserts in literally the same post scum wouldn’t do.

this is inaccurate

i think scum are

more likely

to do a certain thing but

not always

. the game is shaped by player archetypes. a less controlling player with less thread presence and less experience is far more likely to go with the flow of thread momentum and throw a teammate under the bus. on the other hand a more experienced scum player is more likely to realize losing a partner Day 1 in a 10p is a near death sentence and will try to avoid that for as long as possible.

however, i typed that post out in a matter of seconds believing we were in twilight. if you expect a post rushed out to have perfect logical coherency you are out of your mind

again i am only discussing possible scenarios of what i think is happening

so, again, y u mad tho?

[Jingle]

Spoiler: All the posts I’d like peta to respond to, conveniently collected in one place!

It doesn’t CC you at all, but acknowledging that would be antithetical to the attempt to shade me, so…

had a crying screaming flailing meltdown at me calling you out

Yeah… not a thing that ever actually happened. At best you could call my back and forth with wgeurts a meltdown, but even that is disgenuine as fuck.

No go ask LLD if this is what scum Jingle does, because if she’s backing you pushing me here I might as well have a cop guilty on you.

You heavily implied it with the “any porkens partner would have cut their losses” bit. So why is that a thing for any porkens partner… except Jingle?

Can anyone give me a summary on what I have missed? I have some catching up to do and I have a meeting in 30 minutes.

nothing important, a bunch of people are yelling at each other

Nothing important here refers to:

Cerbs having content after being gone for a week, including an elaboration of his wgeurts stance.
Fate obvtowning while trying to shop a no go wagon to save porkens.
Peta repeatedly accusing me of being angry while arguing that I’m scum for doing something he asserts in literally the same post scum wouldn’t do.
Me being decidedly not mad.
Porkens being a foregone lim conclusion.

Scum are sitting here ignoring the adorable wagon

For posterity

Adorable/One of people who hasn't commented on her since that wagon started

Spoiler:

adorable is my dark horse pick for teammate throwing porkens under the bus

it's possible jingle is just having a case of mad cuz bad

This, btw, is 100% pure unadulterated posturing.

Jingle is still scum with porkens, despite my own reason for them not both being scum. But also, jingle is just a bad player, so if they flip green you shouldn’t put any credence into them scumreading me. But also also, I’m totally not ignoring adorable, she’s a scum option too, despite literally being the person who is demonstrating the behavior Fate is calling out.

Scum are sitting here ignoring the adorable wagon

For posterity

Adorable/One of people who hasn't commented on her since that wagon started

Spoiler:

adorable is my dark horse pick for teammate throwing porkens under the bus

it's possible jingle is just having a case of mad cuz bad

Again with the “Jingle is being emotional” narrative. Show me literally any post I’ve made, other than voicing frustration with lurking at wgeurts that is even slightly mad today. I’ll give you a hint: there isn’t one.

your push back on me is nothing if not an emotional one lmao

it's okay you don't have to hide it

It must really sting to not be able to find any post where I’m screaming, yelling, flailing or ranting. It’s okay, peta, I understand.

[petapan]

Scum are sitting here ignoring the adorable wagon

For posterity

Adorable/One of people who hasn't commented on her since that wagon started

Spoiler:

adorable is my dark horse pick for teammate throwing porkens under the bus

it's possible jingle is just having a case of mad cuz bad

This, btw, is 100% pure unadulterated posturing.

Jingle is still scum with porkens, despite my own reason for them not both being scum. But also, jingle is just a bad player, so if they flip green you shouldn’t put any credence into them scumreading me. But also also, I’m totally not ignoring adorable, she’s a scum option too, despite literally being the person who is demonstrating the behavior Fate is calling out.

correct, yes, if you're town i think the town should treat your scumreads as cop clears

[petapan]

Spoiler: All the posts I’d like peta to respond to, conveniently collected in one place!

It doesn’t CC you at all, but acknowledging that would be antithetical to the attempt to shade me, so…

had a crying screaming flailing meltdown at me calling you out

Yeah… not a thing that ever actually happened. At best you could call my back and forth with wgeurts a meltdown, but even that is disgenuine as fuck.

No go ask LLD if this is what scum Jingle does, because if she’s backing you pushing me here I might as well have a cop guilty on you.

You heavily implied it with the “any porkens partner would have cut their losses” bit. So why is that a thing for any porkens partner… except Jingle?

Can anyone give me a summary on what I have missed? I have some catching up to do and I have a meeting in 30 minutes.

nothing important, a bunch of people are yelling at each other

Nothing important here refers to:

Cerbs having content after being gone for a week, including an elaboration of his wgeurts stance.
Fate obvtowning while trying to shop a no go wagon to save porkens.
Peta repeatedly accusing me of being angry while arguing that I’m scum for doing something he asserts in literally the same post scum wouldn’t do.
Me being decidedly not mad.
Porkens being a foregone lim conclusion.

Scum are sitting here ignoring the adorable wagon

For posterity

Adorable/One of people who hasn't commented on her since that wagon started

Spoiler:

adorable is my dark horse pick for teammate throwing porkens under the bus

it's possible jingle is just having a case of mad cuz bad

This, btw, is 100% pure unadulterated posturing.

Jingle is still scum with porkens, despite my own reason for them not both being scum. But also, jingle is just a bad player, so if they flip green you shouldn’t put any credence into them scumreading me. But also also, I’m totally not ignoring adorable, she’s a scum option too, despite literally being the person who is demonstrating the behavior Fate is calling out.

Scum are sitting here ignoring the adorable wagon

For posterity

Adorable/One of people who hasn't commented on her since that wagon started

Spoiler:

adorable is my dark horse pick for teammate throwing porkens under the bus

it's possible jingle is just having a case of mad cuz bad

Again with the “Jingle is being emotional” narrative. Show me literally any post I’ve made, other than voicing frustration with lurking at wgeurts that is even slightly mad today. I’ll give you a hint: there isn’t one.

your push back on me is nothing if not an emotional one lmao

it's okay you don't have to hide it

It must really sting to not be able to find any post where I’m screaming, yelling, flailing or ranting. It’s okay, peta, I understand.

mad

[petapan]

jingle seething lol

[petapan]

looks like i really rustled jingle's bells

[Jingle]

Peta repeatedly accusing me of being angry while arguing that I’m scum for doing something he asserts in literally the same post scum wouldn’t do.

this is inaccurate

i think scum are

more likely

to do a certain thing but

not always

. the game is shaped by player archetypes. a less controlling player with less thread presence and less experience is far more likely to go with the flow of thread momentum and throw a teammate under the bus. on the other hand a more experienced scum player is more likely to realize losing a partner Day 1 in a 10p is a near death sentence and will try to avoid that for as long as possible.

however, i typed that post out in a matter of seconds believing we were in twilight. if you expect a post rushed out to have perfect logical coherency you are out of your mind

again i am only discussing possible scenarios of what i think is happening

so, again, y u mad tho?

yeah so that's a scumclaim

fwiw jingle should never be allowed to endgame because his play this phase has been downright horrific. i pulled the detente with him partly because i thought he might actually be a mason with hpe but his posts after proved to not be the case. i think the weird round of questioning might be pocketing, not sure. regardless if he's not cleared by an investigation don't let him off the hook.

everyone else off wagon i think is town tbqh. generally when scum plays like porkens their partner is going to recognize and cut bait sooner rather than later

So… just to unpack here: I’m confscum. And also Porkens is confscum. And also I’m literally the only person in the thread who would see porkens scum buddy flailing and dying and goes “you know how I should react to that? By drawing literally all of the attention to me.”

for the record that was a reaction to what i mistakenly presumed was an accidental selfhammer, which is not the case. this is also before you came into the thread and had a crying screaming flailing meltdown at me calling you out

but again i've laid out alternative scenarios. i think it's possible porkens's partner cut bait on him and is voting him. i'm not gonna fully discuss that right now. i just want you to be the elimination 100% of the time following a porkens red flip, absent anything mechanical clearing you. because your play makes far more sense as being proscum and you shouldn't be given a pass for it.

Hm. This post doubling down on the stance after realizing the hammer wasn’t real certainly agrees that it was heat of the moment.