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Post Post #625 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:19 am

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In post 624, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: I found the argument that they demonstrated a lot of heart in their push on HPE and therefore genuinely believe in their scumread to be fairly compelling
I can kind of see this, but the self acknowledgment of how poorly made the original case was to the point of reworking it unprompted and the immediate handwaving of peta being convinced by it making sense still strikes me as dissonant. I feel like this is the kind of case that's really easy to write off as wrong town, but I have reservations. Is there anything else you've seen that implies town?
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Post Post #626 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:30 am

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In post 625, Jingle wrote: I can kind of see this, but the self acknowledgment of how poorly made the original case was to the point of reworking it unprompted and the immediate handwaving of peta being convinced by it making sense still strikes me as dissonant.
That would be a point against peta's favor though, right?

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In post 491, petapan wrote: i like the wall
In post 484, wgeurts wrote: Why as town are you even focused on whether or not people are "altogether interested" in a wagon or not anyway?
this bit in particular resonates with me because i think scum often get caught using this type of reasoning about what is/isn't a viable wagon

I'm not sure whether he likes the content in the wall or simply thinks it was written by town. Probably the former given the second sentence

I disagree with the reasoning there... I think town moves their vote all the time to avoid vanity wagoning. Not sure if it moves the needle on my read though

Though come to think of it, weren't there 3 votes on the Fate wagon at the time? Why did HPE think the wagon wasn't viable?
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Post Post #627 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:31 am

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In post 625, Jingle wrote: Is there anything else you've seen that implies town [from wgeurts]?
I thought their early reads made sense to me - the tier list at the top of were roughly where I had people sorted by that point too
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Post Post #628 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:34 am

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In post 625, Jingle wrote:
In post 624, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: I found the argument that they demonstrated a lot of heart in their push on HPE and therefore genuinely believe in their scumread to be fairly compelling
I can kind of see this, but the self acknowledgment of how poorly made the original case was to the point of reworking it unprompted and the immediate handwaving of peta being convinced by it making sense still strikes me as dissonant.
I feel like this is the kind of case that's really easy to write off as wrong town, but I have reservations. Is there anything else you've seen that implies town?
Oh, I misread this, yes I see what you're saying now, but I don't see how it's dissonant? If they thought their wall was poorly edited but the points would still make sense for a careful reader...
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Post Post #629 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:42 am

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In post 626, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: Though come to think of it, weren't there 3 votes on the Fate wagon at the time? Why did HPE think the wagon wasn't viable?
nvm I misremembered the reasoning behind HPE's wagon hop

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Fate (3) - HighPrincessErinys, Adorable, Cat Scratch Fever
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HighPrincessErinys (1) - wgeurts
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In post 356, Fate wrote: IS NO ONE ELSE CONCERNED THAT HPE JUMPED FROM VOTING ME THE BIGGEST WAGON TO WHO I AM VOTING?

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wgeurts is and has been my biggest scumread...? Very convinced you just haven't been paying much real attention to the game.
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Post Post #630 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:44 am

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I get your point, but I can't shake the feeling that there's something off with the whole peta/wgeurts interactions. Maybe it's Koba reinforcing me chasing butterflies, but I think there's something worth digging at in that mess.

Regardless, for the moment I'm willing to wait until wgeurts gets back. I expect spicy takes with what all's happened recently.
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Post Post #631 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 10:58 am

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Yeah this one is waiting on wgeurt's readwall on everyone else before it even THINKS about anything along the lines of a Cerb or peta vote.
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Post Post #632 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 11:47 am

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In post 631, HighPrincessErinys wrote: Yeah this one is waiting on wgeurt's readwall on everyone else before it even THINKS about anything along the lines of a Cerb or peta vote.
Do you not have reads of your own?
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Post Post #633 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 12:05 pm

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And yes, I know you have expressed reads prior to now, including a scumread on wgeurts, but I don't see why you need wgeurts to post reads before addressing other players
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Post Post #634 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 12:51 pm

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What did y'all think of my porkens case?
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Post Post #635 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 1:38 pm

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In post 632, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 631, HighPrincessErinys wrote: Yeah this one is waiting on wgeurt's readwall on everyone else before it even THINKS about anything along the lines of a Cerb or peta vote.
Do you not have reads of your own?
This isn't about my reads on others, it's about getting more on wgeurts.
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Post Post #636 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 1:38 pm

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Had a rough day today and a hell shift on friday, expect more from me tomorrow. I haven't read yet
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Post Post #637 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 2:19 pm

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In post 634, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: What did y'all think of my porkens case?
It requires more time than I want to spend to parse rn.
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Post Post #638 (ISO) » Sat Apr 22, 2023 2:21 pm

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In post 636, wgeurts wrote: Had a rough day today and a hell shift on friday, expect more from me tomorrow. I haven't read yet
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Post Post #639 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 4:36 am

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Post Post #640 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 5:46 am

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So... I get that we're the relaxed game and all, but this is pretty bad. Cerbs is an outlier because of significant V/LA, but we're gonna need higher levels of engagement than this if we hope for a town win. wgeurts has been absent multiple days because of work and RL troubles and is still the second from top poster by a wide margin. And it's not like there's a lack of content to engage with. There have been multiple cases and multiple wagons recently.

I'm not saying this as a "Everybody get in here and post right now." but D2 on we absolutely cannot allow this same trend to continue.
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Post Post #641 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:08 am

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Well, the Fabled Wgeurts Readwall will likely get the discussion train rolling again, but in the meantime you could always try probing others yourself. Don't think CSF or RR have really posted anything like read lists yet? Would like to see that personally.
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Post Post #642 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:13 am

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Me probing others doesn't really solve the issue if it folds when I'm not here to probe others. My issue is that too many people seem content to just sit back and let a couple of active players drive all the discussion, and fmpov if I die I have no faith that this game won't devolve into 7 IRL days with 14 posts.
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Post Post #643 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:14 am

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In post 639, SirCakez wrote:
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Post Post #644 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:41 am

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In post 641, HighPrincessErinys wrote: Well, the Fabled Wgeurts Readwall will likely get the discussion train rolling again, but in the meantime you could always try probing others yourself. Don't think CSF or RR have really posted anything like read lists yet? Would like to see that personally.
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Post Post #645 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 6:48 am

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Relatively low activity from me last week was an outlier given that i was on vacation and then came home to working really long hours

I can post a reads list but I'm skeptical that it'll jump start discussion if my points about porkens barely got anyone interested & i believe an enterprising reader can figure out where i stand anyway
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Post Post #646 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:06 am

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In post 641, HighPrincessErinys wrote: Well, the Fabled Wgeurts Readwall will likely get the discussion train rolling again, but in the meantime you could always try probing others yourself. Don't think CSF or RR have really posted anything like read lists yet? Would like to see that personally.
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Post Post #647 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:07 am

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Why am I your top scum read?
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Post Post #648 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:08 am

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Have you talked to your team about my slot at all?
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Post Post #649 (ISO) » Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:20 am

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It's mostly because of the early wgeurts defense still. Since then you've looked plausibly town, but so far that's the only moment in this game I can point to as someone actively doing something scummy, whereas everyone else in my lim pool just hasn't been doing Townie things.

As for my team, honestly we haven't been discussing as thoroughly or frequently as we probably should be, but early on Klick said you were pinging him as well, and then Bella's recently said you look Town to her.
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