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Post Post #300 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:11 pm

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In post 261, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 245, Cerberus v666 wrote: HPE, is there anyone in this game who you are not currently suspicious of, and why? I appreciate a focus on scum, but also, like, identifying town is important.

And okay, then - in that case, what exactly was the problem you had with someone stating their reads are unreliable? Can you walk me through that reasoning, if the confidence someone projects doesn't have much to do with it?
Feeling pretty good about Jingle, and to a lesser extent petapan, mostly because they've been absent a bit. They've both been making rather nice posts (its hard to pin down specific ones to point out unfortunately) and Jingle's ISO in particularly feels very very solvey.

That's a good question, honestly, this one hasn't been thinking too super hard about it until you asked. It just felt like at the moment a kind of weird thing to say. "Hey guys, my reads are unreliable!" is, technically a humble and truthful thing to say because no one can ever be super precise, but its also kinda like, why should we believe you then? Jingle's been doing good, as mentioned, so its kinda whatever, but it just put this one off a bit. Guess that's really all there is to it.
In post 256, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: I'm still unsure how why you singled them out for potential scum motivation if their accusations have been the same as others tbh
To clarify: You asked what makes you and peta's accusations different from wgeurts'. This one said the only common link was that you all three said it wasn't posting much of substance, because otherwise only wgeurts was making further accusations in the readwall like with the Jingle thing or power-up talk, etc.
i guess i probably shoulda read through before making that last post

this is still kind of vague to me and doesn't give me a ton to go off
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Post Post #301 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:23 pm

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UNVOTE:

meh

if
HPE is town cerb's approach to it strikes me as being potentially scummy


i like CSF's posts and think this is probably her town game

LLD has been badgering me to get her reads into the thread, i think she's been wanting to micromanage everyone while waiting for hers to start lol

she thinks CSF, Adorable, and wgeurts are town, I agree with these as i've more or less expressed

she thought hpe was town at first but didn't like its fate vote
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Post Post #302 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:28 pm

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Powerup Vote: Adorable



i don't think a public doublevote is especially consequential in a majority elimination game but also have been fine with it going to adorable for a while
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Post Post #303 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:52 pm

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In post 300, petapan wrote:
In post 261, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 245, Cerberus v666 wrote: HPE, is there anyone in this game who you are not currently suspicious of, and why? I appreciate a focus on scum, but also, like, identifying town is important.

And okay, then - in that case, what exactly was the problem you had with someone stating their reads are unreliable? Can you walk me through that reasoning, if the confidence someone projects doesn't have much to do with it?
Feeling pretty good about Jingle, and to a lesser extent petapan, mostly because they've been absent a bit. They've both been making rather nice posts (its hard to pin down specific ones to point out unfortunately) and Jingle's ISO in particularly feels very very solvey.

That's a good question, honestly, this one hasn't been thinking too super hard about it until you asked. It just felt like at the moment a kind of weird thing to say. "Hey guys, my reads are unreliable!" is, technically a humble and truthful thing to say because no one can ever be super precise, but its also kinda like, why should we believe you then? Jingle's been doing good, as mentioned, so its kinda whatever, but it just put this one off a bit. Guess that's really all there is to it.
In post 256, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: I'm still unsure how why you singled them out for potential scum motivation if their accusations have been the same as others tbh
To clarify: You asked what makes you and peta's accusations different from wgeurts'. This one said the only common link was that you all three said it wasn't posting much of substance, because otherwise only wgeurts was making further accusations in the readwall like with the Jingle thing or power-up talk, etc.
i guess i probably shoulda read through before making that last post

this is still kind of vague to me and doesn't give me a ton to go off
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Post Post #304 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:53 pm

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In post 293, Cat Scratch Fever wrote: VOTE: Fate

Feeling rather uncertain of my reads atm, but this is fine for now

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I've been ambivalent about wgeurts but am going to tentatively say they're town. The thing that threw me for a loop was their early townlean on me when I wasn't feeling engaged in the game yet. It felt like a tmi-y townread made to potentially pocket someone, but thinking about it some more, I think I'm kind of a weird choice for a pocket in this list, especially since I was low effort posting up until that point. My team is feeling good about wgeurts too so that's also a thing

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Cerberus, can you summarize where you have people at right now?
I could, but on principle I won't barring a super compelling reason to do so. I'm a Day 3 in a large game give a reads list and solve the game kinda guy. :) Since this is smaller, I'll solve the game midday tomorrow assuming we see two flips to base my analysis off of. :)

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In post 299, petapan wrote: cerb mostly comes across as null in everything he's posted so far. but maybe scummy given the lack of solid stances in all that posts. (i have an instinctive bias against quote stripes that has little basis in reality though)
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Post Post #305 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 7:14 pm

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Cerberus is not passing the vibe check for me.

I don't have better words to articulate the feeling but the feeling isn't good.
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Post Post #306 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2023 1:09 am

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VLA two days.


Might be back sooner.
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Post Post #307 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2023 1:47 am

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whoa what the hell I am NOT down for this powering up Adorable nonsense

Especially not for the 'well maybe their role recieves benefits' like what if SCUM gets benefits like strongarm etc?
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Post Post #308 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2023 1:49 am

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In post 225, Adorable wrote: I didn't like how Fate voted HPE with no elaboration and had nothing else to add.

Cerb has not been asking me good questions and these are the kind of questions that don't help on scum hunting. It looked like busywork to me. I would prefer players ask me question with a single quote and not a wallpost because I don't know how to edit the huge wall.

HPE I am null on and I can also imagine a town HPE being low hanging fruit. They said they are a passive player, I am also a passive player and I see nothing wrong with being passive.
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Post Post #309 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2023 1:51 am

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hmm I am indeed rusty, I've been looking for more scum than 2

Adorable pointing that out isn't doing them any favors either

let me think

on what scum playing the long game would be doing atm
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Post Post #310 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2023 1:52 am

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all right I'm less afraid of being NK'd now

lets go Porkens

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Post Post #311 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2023 1:54 am

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In post 296, petapan wrote:
In post 181, Fate wrote: oh yeah this one's easy already page 2
VOTE: HighPrincess
hi Fate, been a long time, you probably don't remember me, we might've only played once


LLD has a question: why HPE over Jingle? they're both terrible on page 2
I have a softspot for Jingle, and didn't get any particular pings

Jingle scum can take me to LyLo I'm down

oh wait I promised my team a sweep...
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Post Post #312 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2023 1:54 am

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ps no I don't remember you, but bonus points if you link to said game since apparently there's an archive system now and all the
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Post Post #313 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2023 1:56 am

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oh I remember page 2 now

yeah Jingle's 'lld can't read me' felt genuine for once so Imma leave it be (don't have any context for y'alls history but it does remind me of MY MOST RECENT GAME WHERE KATSUKI MISLYNCHED ME FOR NO GODDAMN GOOD REASON)
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Post Post #314 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:31 am

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In post 312, Fate wrote: ps no I don't remember you, but bonus points if you link to said game since apparently there's an archive system now and all the
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you were an IC so i didn't have to read you and if i remember right you were mentally checked out from being conftown

but man

what a playerlist
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Post Post #315 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:58 am

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ah that was the game where I made my stand that I was a better scumhunter than regfan for his Bella reads, but they wouldn't give me the Scummie

BECAUSE IT WOULD SET A PRECEDENT THAT MAFIASCUM ENDORSES FATE

BWAHWHAAHHAHA

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Post Post #316 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:59 am

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(I'd boast about nailing Staeg scum immediately but it isn't particularly noteworthy and Staeg may read this game yet >_>)
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Post Post #317 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:32 am

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how the hell am i supposed to get reads

what you all have day jobs or somethign
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Post Post #318 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2023 6:53 am

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Hello Fate, nice of you to properly join us. Got any other reads for me based on everything so far?
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Post Post #319 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2023 7:29 am

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In post 303, HighPrincessErinys wrote: though it'll probably be tomorrow before it can be the one going out and finding posts to analyze.
time for a few Briefly Elaborated Jingle Posts This One Likes™:

This is a pretty good point and 22 is indeed kinda weird with this context.

This one very much agrees with the latter half of this post.

REALLY good mechtalk/spec, certain towny vibe from Jingle advocating the power-up now after not caring for it early in the day but that might just be a wacky read from me.

Willing to locktown this slot tbh because this is a really good looking ISO in general.
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Post Post #320 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:48 am

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Locktown on Jingle? No real comment on my vote switch?

The hell are you reading
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Post Post #321 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2023 8:59 am

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Seeing more of Fate's posts, they look like the type of player who plays for entertainment and I was not expecting them to be that kind of player. These kind of players are hard to read and they play like that as either alignment.
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Post Post #322 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:10 am

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In post 319, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 303, HighPrincessErinys wrote: though it'll probably be tomorrow before it can be the one going out and finding posts to analyze.
time for a few Briefly Elaborated Jingle Posts This One Likes™:

This is a pretty good point and 22 is indeed kinda weird with this context.

This one very much agrees with the latter half of this post.

REALLY good mechtalk/spec, certain towny vibe from Jingle advocating the power-up now after not caring for it early in the day but that might just be a wacky read from me.

Willing to locktown this slot tbh because this is a really good looking ISO in general.
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Post Post #323 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:11 am

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In post 320, Fate wrote: Locktown on Jingle? No real comment on my vote switch?

The hell are you reading
Reading Jingle's ISO like this one said it would earlier. Would still like to hear some of your reads and since you pointed it out, your wgeurts vote.
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Post Post #324 (ISO) » Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:47 am

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In post 321, Adorable wrote: Seeing more of Fate's posts, they look like the type of player who plays for entertainment and I was not expecting them to be that kind of player. These kind of players are hard to read and they play like that as either alignment.
Wow you read me quickly

Actually I only play for entertainment as town, I play to win as scum (and often do)

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