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[DkKoba]

also since i have egregiously misread mastina in the past jingle told me to outsource the read to him if im not confident

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weren't you THE expert in reading Mastina?

u actually reminded me i mixed up FL and mastina in the last game we played in that i didnt actually get fooled by scum mastina but jingle and I agree anyways
lil brain fart

[Shirou]

about Ausuka potentially trying to pocket me by getting into my good side...it feels possible but at the same time I'm not too worried about it right now, she's on my null pile

I must confess I'm quite weak to people humoring me/being nice to me though

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*Meuh PSTD flashbacks*

)

[Shirou]

u actually reminded me i mixed up FL and mastina in the last game we played in that i didnt actually get fooled by scum mastina but jingle and I agree anyways
lil brain fart

ok wait a second i'm gonna flip a coin to see if i buy this explanation

[Shirou]

[Shirou]

it says I shouldn't believe on it too much and move u back to my nullscum pile

[Shirou]

but at the same time super weird stuff to fake/lie if you're scum

it still doesn't make a lot of sense as town either tho

[DkKoba]

but at the same time super weird stuff to fake/lie if you're scum

it still doesn't make a lot of sense as town either tho

lets just say i tend to prefer to ignore mastina in games and i rarely have a good confident read on her regardless



i am scatterbrained and it shows in my play although it isnt AI im just built Different

[DkKoba]

about Ausuka potentially trying to pocket me by getting into my good side...it feels possible but at the same time I'm not too worried about it right now, she's on my null pile

I must confess I'm quite weak to people humoring me/being nice to me though

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*Meuh PSTD flashbacks*

)

oh hey jingle told me abt that i think pregame when brainstorming plans if i were to rand scum in this game.

pretty good call

[ItalianoVD]

I also don't like how Ausuka asked me about my thoughts and when I answer, seemingly not good enough for them, they vote me, which is meh?

Is the implication here that if you ask about anything, you have to townread the answer?

No, not at all, but it felt like busy work with not a real attempt to actually sort me. I also didn't like how you voted Koba because of Shirou, unvoted because of 'Datisi' and then revoted because of Koba. Were you actually scumreading Koba and if so why?

[DkKoba]

fun vote time VOTE: arko

dont be a stranger

[Ausuka]

I also don't like how Ausuka asked me about my thoughts and when I answer, seemingly not good enough for them, they vote me, which is meh?

Is the implication here that if you ask about anything, you have to townread the answer?

No, not at all, but it felt like busy work with not a real attempt to actually sort me. I also didn't like how you voted Koba because of Shirou, unvoted because of 'Datisi' and then revoted because of Koba. Were you actually scumreading Koba and if so why?

What do you think town would have done differently there?

No I wasn't actually scumreading Koba

[Shirou]

She claims to have a day/night difference in her town/scum play but honestly I find her a hard read

its pretty easy for me

and she still doesnt know what the difference it ;D

lets just say i tend to prefer to ignore mastina in games

and i rarely have a good confident read on her regardless

It's not about being "scatterbrained", you've done a 180º on how you theoretically view mastina as a slot you need to sort and it's puzzling? maybe you were just being cheeky in the first quote but it's hard for me to sympathize with this progression because I view it like as if walked back on how well I can read Norwee and that would never happen because...it's true?

[ItalianoVD]

What do you think town would have done differently there?

No I wasn't actually scumreading Koba

Town does a lot of different things, so who knows, but I would've taken it in stride and kept an eye on them. My point is why ask a question if your vote is a forgone conclusion. To clarify, I'm not saying your vote was, but that's how I perceived it. You asked, I answered, my answers weren't good enough for you, vote.

[ItalianoVD]

She claims to have a day/night difference in her town/scum play but honestly I find her a hard read

its pretty easy for me

and she still doesnt know what the difference it ;D

lets just say i tend to prefer to ignore mastina in games

and i rarely have a good confident read on her regardless

It's not about being "scatterbrained", you've done a 180º on how you theoretically view mastina as a slot you need to sort and it's puzzling? maybe you were just being cheeky in the first quote but it's hard for me to sympathize with this progression because I view it like as if walked back on how well I can read Norwee and that would never happen because...it's true?

To be fair, Koba does the 180 thing like all the time and I've come to realize that it's not ai, but I'm with you on the concept, if that makes sense.

[ItalianoVD]

(*Meuh PSTD flashbacks*)

Meuh pockets everybody.

[DkKoba]

She claims to have a day/night difference in her town/scum play but honestly I find her a hard read

its pretty easy for me

and she still doesnt know what the difference it ;D

lets just say i tend to prefer to ignore mastina in games

and i rarely have a good confident read on her regardless

It's not about being "scatterbrained", you've done a 180º on how you theoretically view mastina as a slot you need to sort and it's puzzling? maybe you were just being cheeky in the first quote but it's hard for me to sympathize with this progression because I view it like as if walked back on how well I can read Norwee and that would never happen because...it's true?

its the difference between light confidence and lack of confidence.
so no, not a 180 but also mastina is a slot ive played with relatively rarely and have had middling results reading the slot going either way, i gave you my explaination, if you think its fake then i cannot reason with that which is not true - i won't make up fake reasons that sound nice.

[DkKoba]

and regardless 180s are pretty standard for me which is why i can be seen being completely wrong about a game, push over a townie, and still get nightkilled

[Ausuka]

What do you think town would have done differently there?

No I wasn't actually scumreading Koba

Town does a lot of different things, so who knows, but I would've taken it in stride and kept an eye on them. My point is why ask a question if your vote is a forgone conclusion. To clarify, I'm not saying your vote was, but that's how I perceived it. You asked, I answered, my answers weren't good enough for you, vote.

Ok, so what about that suggests it was a foregone conclusion? Isn't that just contradictory to the idea that your answers weren't good enough?

[ItalianoVD]

No I wasn't actually scumreading Koba

Okay, fair enough. Why was it unfortunate that Datisi thought Koba was town and that you had to go elsewhere? What are your thoughts on Koba now?

[ItalianoVD]

What do you think town would have done differently there?

No I wasn't actually scumreading Koba

Town does a lot of different things, so who knows, but I would've taken it in stride and kept an eye on them. My point is why ask a question if your vote is a forgone conclusion. To clarify, I'm not saying your vote was, but that's how I perceived it. You asked, I answered, my answers weren't good enough for you, vote.

Ok, so what about that suggests it was a foregone conclusion? Isn't that just contradictory to the idea that your answers weren't good enough?

My perception.

[Ausuka]

What do you think town would have done differently there?

No I wasn't actually scumreading Koba

Town does a lot of different things, so who knows, but I would've taken it in stride and kept an eye on them. My point is why ask a question if your vote is a forgone conclusion. To clarify, I'm not saying your vote was, but that's how I perceived it. You asked, I answered, my answers weren't good enough for you, vote.

Ok, so what about that suggests it was a foregone conclusion? Isn't that just contradictory to the idea that your answers weren't good enough?

My perception.

Ok well my perception is that you're full of shit

[DkKoba]

i urge players to bring their team members into the game as much as they can btw, it becomes a much easier game to solve the more variables there are in play and it can prevent scum from being able to hide within having teammates help them because then it will be the standard and all that

even if you assign your teammate like 2-3 players to track thats fine and a good idea too

(my teammates have said my game is impossible to keep up with and i have to bully them personally to help )


also is anyone here good at reading shirou that can tell me my tinfoil is stupid bc everytime shirou posts im like "hmm yes this is good but also if i look at this from plausible scum POV this is perfectly plausible and actually ingenious"

or maybe dont because if theyre town its better to have them alive d2

[DkKoba]

the words italiano types wash over my brain in a not pleasant way - meaning i am having trouble parse them due to how fluffed up the sentences are(they lack a concrete point)

looks like italiano is sniffing out if im a viable wagon tho

[Ausuka]

No I wasn't actually scumreading Koba

Okay, fair enough. Why was it unfortunate that Datisi thought Koba was town and that you had to go elsewhere? What are your thoughts on Koba now?

My perception was that it was unfortunate

I don't have anything to super strongly point to Koba being town or scum. My feeling is that they are more likely to be town and my team agrees with me

[ItalianoVD]

Ok well my perception is that you're full of shit