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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 2:29 am

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In post 166, Adorable wrote: You said me, HPE, and Porkens have posted little of no substance. It is early day 1 and there will always be players posting little of no substance no matter what alignment they are. I actively play mafia elsewhere and a majority of the players over there post little of no substance and because of this I don't understand why you are making a big deal about this.

You have a very unusual playstyle that will be hard for me to read.
As a quick note, please snip out the wall of text if you're quoting it heh, or spoiler it.

Out of curiosity, where do you play mafia outside of MS? I strongly disagree that there is nothing of substance in Day 1, it is far more speculative yes, but people's attitude towards a game can always be gauged no matter the stage. Do you disagree?
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 2:31 am

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In post 168, Jingle wrote:
In post 144, wgeurts wrote:
I don't genuinely think Cerb was scum-buddying with me, prior to the game starting we were already excited to have the opportunity to play again and have some mafia history together. His post largely read as jest, and I responded with some pomp in turn. By itself, that post is entirely NAI. I am not paranoid of Cerb to put it simply, I'm playing along with them. ^^
This isn’t really an explanation of why what you did but an admission that it is what I was seeing. It also doesn’t really shake the feeling I got that your response was intended to make cerbs look worse.

I guess the question remains: what do you intend to do now to response to the reach out/establish a better groundwork to work with cerbs, and why haven’t you been doing it til now.
It's hard to reach out to cerb when he's not currently in the game, when he's actually here I'll more than happily bounce off them.

On a side note, what do you make of Porkens?
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 2:35 am

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In post 173, Jingle wrote:
In post 171, wgeurts wrote: Also got some commentary on Jingle from Xof.
Did they scumslip?
To paraphrase what was said, Xof, my teammate, told me they'd just wrapped up a game with you and that your behaviour is notedly different enough from your scum play which you were in that game. They noted they can usually tell how you approach a game with mechanics, and that you'd be more suspect had you given more strongly felt reads so far.
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 2:58 am

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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 2:59 am

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VOTE: Power Up: Fate

EhHEHAHAHHAHA

NOW THE REAL GAME BEGINS.
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:00 am

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I’m sodeeyeing porkers a bit for roughly the reasons you seem to be on our princess friend. There’s a lot of prima facie doing but not a lot that seems likely to lead anywhere. I’m not particularly interested in poking them atm though, because there IS the doing side of things and the going somewhere might be impending. I feel like it’ll be a better situation to read porkens if I just let them do their own thing for now.
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:01 am

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oh yeah this one's easy already page 2
VOTE: HighPrincess
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:01 am

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JINGLE DONT THREATEN YOUR TOWNREAD BY IGNORING ME
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:02 am

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oh yeah me and POrkens


this game going to 100 pages ez
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:03 am

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Sorry, porkens, for the porkers bits. My phone keeps trying to autocorrect your name and I keep not catching it.

While I do intentionally butcher usernames like wogurtses, I don’t do so with anything I think is potentially offensive on purpose and will definitely stop if asked.
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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:04 am

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NINJA IS STILL A THING NOW MORE THANE EVER WITH PREVIEW POSTS

JINGLE

BELL

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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:04 am

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In post 182, Fate wrote: JINGLE DONT THREATEN YOUR TOWNREAD BY IGNORING ME
I don’t believe in fate. Like Santa or the irs you’re just one of those things we tell children to scare them into behaving.
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:09 am

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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 3:33 am

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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:19 am

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In post 181, Fate wrote: oh yeah this one's easy already page 2
VOTE: HighPrincess
Can you elaborate what you didn't like from it on page 2?
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:20 am

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In post 181, Fate wrote: oh yeah this one's easy already page 2
VOTE: HighPrincess
Got anything to say about how you came to this conclusion?

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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:37 am

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In post 188, Porkens wrote: COME ON LETS GO
Um, actually, the lyrics are "COME ON IT'S TIME TO GO"

Lockscum
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:38 am

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Lockscum

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doesn't nearly have a good a ring as confscum

Now.

For those questioning me, shhhhh, all in due time
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:42 am

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In post 27, Jingle wrote: I think Fate's been retired since before I joined the site, wogurts (pronounced like Gogurt, fite me) used to be big in site admin stuff but is mostly lurker-y and I just finished my first game in two years. Even before that, Cerb basically only hydra'd with another player on his team. I think everyone else is reasonably active? Maybe?
Important note: in almost every hydra I've ever been in, I've provided the vast majority of thread presence. It was only in the last 6 months or so of my time on site that I started hydraing as a way to participate while reducing the effort required on my part - and even in those games, if anyone has the time to check - you'll see most posts are signed by -Cerb. I don't actually think this bit is particularly important or anything, just feel it's only fair that a representation of myself as someone who is low effort/not present in games is an inaccurate one.
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In post 25, wgeurts wrote: Considering that means few have had the chance to play with them it still stands :P
Do you think Cerbs would specifically try to pocket a rusty player, though?
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In post 29, Jingle wrote:
In post 25, wgeurts wrote: Considering that means few have had the chance to play with them it still stands :P
Do you think Cerbs would specifically try to pocket a rusty player, though?
Yes lol

Every Varsoon game somewhat faded in my memory still gives me that impression
Still feels insulting. Since you're talking about me, reaching out towards the person I know best in the game(especially one who I know is capable of putting together reads with actual reasoning behind them in the early game, which basically everybody fucking sucks at) is essential NAI. Town!Me does it because if I assume I have the best chance of catching them if scum, and if town I know we can work well together. Scum!Me does it because town!me would do it.

Both me's do it because it gets us out out of RVS on *checks game* the 12th real post of the game, and I hate all votes that are air.

I will say that rust level is irrelevant, because I haven't been around either and therefore don't know who has recent objective evidence of competence, other than things like seeing petapan's Don Corleone banner - so obviously I'll talk to the human's who I have a history with to work to form a townblock.
In post 40, Adorable wrote: I'm currently null on everyone at the moment.
In post 67, Adorable wrote: If no one wants the double vote power up then I'll be willing to take it.
Why are you even saying these things? I don't see an objective to either post?
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In post 62, Jingle wrote:
In post 60, HighPrincessErinys wrote: We should still probably give it to someone, right?
Why?

It doesn't do anything and just bloats the thread to do so.
What does that mean by bloats the thread?
I don't want to hate on someone for asking questions, but what is your objective here? I assume you know what bloating the thread means, and also understand why talking about this would do so. Which means you have some other objective to asking the question, so what is it?
In post 75, Porkens wrote: VOTE: powerup: porkens
But why?
In post 79, Radical Rat wrote: Poetic.

UNVOTE:

I don't really like voting here anymore, but I don't know where else to go with it yet
Progression worth elaborating on. I'll need to ISO you two in context, but I think Jingle just did the mech talk stuff and questioned wgeurts in between your vote and unvote.
In post 83, Jingle wrote: Adorable (Average ™ Enjoyers)
Radical Rat (Klickin’ Chickens)
HighPrincessErinys Whimsical Activities)
Cerberus v666 (We Don’t Mafia)
Cat Scratch Fever (Good in Plaid)
Wgeurts (Crispy Cream Puffs)
Petapan (Polymewl)

not spoken:
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Porkens (Pork Eaters)

A few pages old, but this is our working list.
Noted. This may get it's own post later.

And okay, I have like another bunch of posts that I was planning on responding to, but I shall endeavor to do so shortly.

And no, I probably won't have a reads list at the end of all this, or a vote on anyone. ^^

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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:46 am

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In post 192, Fate wrote: Lockscum

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doesn't nearly have a good a ring as confscum

Now.

For those questioning me, shhhhh, all in due time
That seems like a sketchy refusal to elaborate considering we only know for sure you've seen pages 1 and 2.
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:54 am

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In post 193, Cerberus v666 wrote: inaccurate one.
I didn't mean to imply you wouldn't be active. In fact, I would go so far to say that Team Mafia you will be almost identical to RR you as far as thread presence goes because you have Drixx whispering sweet nothings in your ear and that's how you always play from my reference point.
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:56 am

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In post 170, wgeurts wrote:
In post 164, Radical Rat wrote: Wgeurts, if you'll indulge my curiosity, how much of that reads wall was from you, and how much was workshopped by your team?
Peta I requested people help me look at as with the current gamestate sorting those two is most valuable. I also got given information on Adorable as I don't know how to deal with that slot, and neither does my team it seems. Everything else is purely my own thoughts.
The reason I ask is that while nothing in particular stands out as objectionable on its own, having such a comprehensive wall of opinions about every player (except Fate of course) so early on feels somewhat incredulous. Particularly it feels strange that you point out my reads as being too strong, even though I only actually have one read I'd consider to be anything more than a lean (CSF), inside of a wall post filled with nuanced opinions on everyone.

Just feels kinda like you felt obligated to have thoughts on everyone instead of them flowing naturally
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:58 am

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In post 192, Fate wrote: For those questioning me, shhhhh, all in due time
Good thing RL kept me away from thread long enough to miss out on being blanket handwaived then!

Can you expand on where you've seen my name come up? I've definitely heard a lot of Fate stories (I believe you may be the founder of the Screaming Death Clan?) but it's interesting to me that you seem at least slightly familiar with me coming into this game where as far as I know you, uh, shouldn't be.
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 4:59 am

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In post 194, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
In post 192, Fate wrote: Lockscum

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doesn't nearly have a good a ring as confscum

Now.

For those questioning me, shhhhh, all in due time
That seems like a sketchy refusal to elaborate considering we only know for sure you've seen pages 1 and 2.
HPE, if you're town, instead of hunkering down on why people are voting you tell me who you think we should be voting instead.
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Mon Apr 17, 2023 5:05 am

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In post 193, Cerberus v666 wrote: Still feels insulting. Since you're talking about me, reaching out towards the person I know best in the game(especially one who I know is capable of putting together reads with actual reasoning behind them in the early game, which basically everybody fucking sucks at) is essential NAI. Town!Me does it because if I assume I have the best chance of catching them if scum, and if town I know we can work well together. Scum!Me does it because town!me would do it.
I'm not sure if you're talking to wgeurtz or me here, but FWIW I could definitely see a theoretical town cerb trying to pocket wgeurtz as a place to use for a start in putting the thread together. Pocketing isn't an exclusively scum activity, even if it is far less dangerous for scum because they don't have to worry about pocketing a scum player and just ending up a worthless pile of town crap.

When you get a chance could you give your thoughts on the wgeurtz scumlean I explained? I think you specifically are well placed to give insight.
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