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[Enchant]

you played jester 10 times?

Not on mafia scum.

[Save The Dragons]

gimli any thoughts about nsg/enchant right now

[Firebringer]

i think enchant sees everyone voting him as town too.
Which makes me even more convinced that this is right tbh.

Cause how would enchant town have reads this fast after joining, i don't think he read the game.
I think he knows the alignments of people voting. I think he sees a town wagon on him and freaks out.

But thats just my theory

[Save The Dragons]

that's a bridge that may be too far

[Firebringer]

conf bias is a hella of a drug

[Gimli]

gimli any thoughts about nsg/enchant right now

if you're trying to read me off my reactions here I think that's fine but if you want my input then I have no freaking clue.

I have a feeling from nsg's posts that they're genuine for the most part but I recognise I have problem discerning true emotional state that is NAI from true emotional state that's town indicative. I'm not sure if the rep out is AI, I feel that if the person reps out as scum too much they might also rep out as town when they dont feel good about the game.

enchant's posts dont sway me in either direction. i could read into enchant trying as more likely scum like fber is doing but I'm not sure that's smart, I don't really think his behaviour is AI in either direction and feel like we'd need time to properly assess enchant.

[NorwegianboyEE]

My reads are fluctuating on some slots but i think i'd always be fine with a lim on any of Ethel, N_M and Enchant.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Reminder for myself to ISO tomorrow -> Brian, Gimli (GIF), MT (Ballpoint)

[Brian Skies]

That leaves Brian, I suspect Brian for feeling towny in a game where most feel towny

How is this even a thing? Damned if I do seem townie, damned if I don't?

Ballpoint, if you're so distraught over the potential quickhammer, then why are you focusing your attention on the two players that unvoted the wagon (one of whom had nothing to do with the plan to quickhammer) instead of the players who were actually calling for your quick elimination?

I object, THat is not how that works! You almost let NM lolhammer (Granted you did the X-2 while NSG did the X-1, but a few posts passed before you unvoted)

But yes I kind of see how BPP latched on to the two unvoters rather than the people who started it which is a bit illogical considering the angle he was coming in at. Although I suspect both of you coincidentally

You are misunderstanding the intent of that post. I wasn't trying to exonerate myself and Bob. I was telling/questioning BPP's severely misguided push against Bob, to which BPP never actually responded.

[Gimli]

i think enchant sees everyone voting him as town too.
Which makes me even more convinced that this is right tbh.

Cause how would enchant town have reads this fast after joining, i don't think he read the game.
I think he knows the alignments of people voting. I think he sees a town wagon on him and freaks out.

But thats just my theory

what reads?

[Gimli]

I have no idea what youre talking about

is this because of 'yall so bad' line? so like you think thats tmi?

[Morning Tweet]

That leaves Brian, I suspect Brian for feeling towny in a game where most feel towny

How is this even a thing? Damned if I do seem townie, damned if I don't?

Ballpoint, if you're so distraught over the potential quickhammer, then why are you focusing your attention on the two players that unvoted the wagon (one of whom had nothing to do with the plan to quickhammer) instead of the players who were actually calling for your quick elimination?

I object, THat is not how that works! You almost let NM lolhammer (Granted you did the X-2 while NSG did the X-1, but a few posts passed before you unvoted)

But yes I kind of see how BPP latched on to the two unvoters rather than the people who started it which is a bit illogical considering the angle he was coming in at. Although I suspect both of you coincidentally

You are misunderstanding the intent of that post. I wasn't trying to exonerate myself and Bob. I was telling/questioning BPP's severely misguided push against Bob, to which BPP never actually responded.

I arbitrarily decided one of cephrir/gimli/you is probably scum an I decided it was most likely you. Think of it like rule of three but I just used it on myself

No, what i meant was you seemed towny for whatever reason i dont remeber but i have the least concrete reasoning for it. So you're like teetering on the edge. I think this game has an unusually high number of good players so maybe thats why there are a lot of towny individuals here.

Plus when you put BPP to X-2 for a period of time then said "why you coming for me" it felt a bit manipulative. But you're right that there was something severly misguided about immediately gunning for you and bob, the two people which had unvoted.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think this game has an unusually high number of good players so maybe thats why there are a lot of towny individuals here.

Well we can definitely rule me out from that list then.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

VC 1.15

With 13 players, it takes 7 to make a decision. Day 1 ends in (expired on 2023-04-13 10:30:00).

VC

Not_Mafia [3]:

Not_Mafia [287], Gimli [857], Morning Tweet [898]

Enchant [3]:

Cephrir [888], Firebringer [889], Brian Skies [891]

Ethel [3]:

Andante [523], NorwegianboyEE [769], Save The Dragons [887]

Morning Tweet [2]:

Marquis [663], Ethel [673]

Not voting [2]:

Elpis [844], Enchant [890]

Mod Notes

• Joint Mod ISO

[Ethel]

I'm not sure how Ethels strange belief (728) about d1 being random excludes newbscum. I would like to challenge Ethel on having reads yet also calling D1 random like Andante does 742

Just because I think the first vote is

mostly

random (which I'm happy to change my mind about when my experiences support that) does not mean that I don't have my own opinions about this game - I just don't think they're very meaningful yet. I still mention them sometimes, both to try and explain my own votes since I feel like that's expected of me, and because I still wanna play the game after all. Anyways - I think if Morning Tweet was scum, it would seem better for her to just vote me instead of Andante (at least it seemed like that to me at the time I saw that vote), so... UNVOTE:

[Gimli]

i vibe with everyone you're all townies

[Enchant]

i vibe with everyone you're all townies

No mafia game finally

VOTE: Moderator

[Elpis]

I didn't vibe with NSG's gameplay and I already do not enjoy Enchant's opener as a replacement, so I feel confident about voting that slot.

VOTE: Enchant

[Firebringer]

I have no idea what youre talking about

is this because of 'yall so bad' line? so like you think thats tmi?

i think the immediate thinking of seeing him say it was scapegoating then the yall bad reads to me like not one is scum easy pushing him and thats his perspective because if he thought there was a scum pushing him as town he would point it out and instead took it as town was playing bad which to me is like how do u come up with that unless u think its genuine town and i go how does enchant townread people this fast with nothing looking like he read

[Elpis]

Also, just caught up again, some notes:

I still townread Cephy, I don't think he'd say some of the things he has if he was scum, but I'm going off a strong vibe here mostly.

Ethel COULD be scum, and if she was I would be probably proud of the way she's acting, personally? But I don't think she is. I think she's learning the environment here and defending takes she thinks are correct, which I truly just respect. Being new is genuinely difficult here sometimes.

NM could be fucking anything I have no clue

StD is kinda climbing my list for suspects, just asking odd questions and choosing odd targets. I'm a bit confused on your playstyle here.

Marquis is still fine in my eyes, pretty town vibes all around there.

FB feels town as hell, I hope you're not scum or I will feel very tricked and deceived.

Gimli is probably town but I feel closer to null on them than I do a lot of other TR's

Enchant feels like scum with their entrance, especially because of how NSG was.

I really like MT's entrance a lot, I want to believe they're a town slot, so I put em around full null at the moment.

Norwegian has actually sort of fallen under my radar this entire game, I might do an ISO on them later to figure out how I feel.

[Brian Skies]

You left off Andante and myself.

[Enchant]

POV: people see 3 players voting Enchant and make up reasons to fit in crowd.

[Enchant]

I am very dissapointed by you all you should knew better!

[Morning Tweet]

Enchant you havent done anything yet!

[Firebringer]

imm too widely townread
more scumreads on me pls