Mini 694 - Office Supplies Mafia [Game Over]

[Stef]

This is getting utterly ridiculous. 3 posts in 3 days.

Mod:
Have the people you have prodded answered their prods?
Can you please provide an updated Vote count?
Can you please update the first page? It doesn't show the replacement and people who are dead are in the alive column.
Please mass-prod or prod: qwints, Moratorium, Pacman, Raider and ZONEACE.

I don't yield the power to make you guys answer my questions and i can't make you guys post. I hope this game will revive itself.

[Stef]

Also.. crywolf.. you promised a post yesterday.. i'd appreciate if you posted it.

[qwints]

Stef, we're fast approaching Thanksgiving so don't be surprised if the inactivity gets worse instead of better.

As for my lack of posting, I honestly don't know what I'm supposed to react to. Stef you've bitched about a lack of content for a week without producing anything new. Admittedly there hasn't been a ton to react to, but posting just to complain doesn't really add anything. I'm also really confused by your prod list stef.

I've posted a solid case against salem and I don't particularly see anything to react to. I answered stef's question for me from 193 by summing up my case.

Porkens seems to thing I misunderstood Moratorium's criticism, so hopefully Moratorium will clarify if I've made any mistakes.

Last, did we ever get that vote count?

[Stef]

I just asked for a prod on you since you haven't posted in 3 days. That's all there is to it really. The content i haven't provided? i asked all the players in the game some questions and besides porkens and somewhat you.. nobody answered them.

[Moratorium]

i asked all the players in the game some questions and besides porkens and somewhat you.. nobody answered them.

Alright, let's see what you are talking about...

@All the others: What are your top 2-3 suspects? Why?

Yeah, I answered this. Feel free to actually read my posts in the future.

I've re-read Day 2, and the only case that has truly been pursued (salem_pc) is weak (OMGUS) and feels scum driven. I'd like to see that votecount, but right now I'm more suspicious of anyone joining the salem bandwagon than anyone else at the moment.

Please remove me from your distribution list, I no longer wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

[Stef]

I've read that post.. forgot to mention you.

[crywolf20084]

Last, did we ever get that vote count?

No, which irks me the most. SensFan hasn't been on much in the other game I'm in that he mods either....

I agree with everyone on salempc. I really didn't like the OMGUS vote, which never bode well, but at the moment thats all I really have to go off of.

I dislike Porkens too with his WIFOM defence that Stef pointed out already.

Sorry about forgetting again, i probably wouldn't've if the game had something going on.

[Stef]

I'll have to wait to see what the prod results are/were/will be.

[qwints]

This is getting pretty bad. Sensfan posted 10 times today (counting after midnight) without dealing with old requests in at least 2 games he's modding. Remind me not to join a game he's modding again.

[raider8169]

Im still here, sorry been busy. Will post something soon. Would like a vote count though.

[raider8169]

Ok I have been going through the last few pages and the only bandwagon that happened was on salempc. Salempc has 14 posts and no where did I see a real case worthy of a lynch. Looking back I do not even see why I have an FoS on him.

Can someone post a case on him otherwise I do not see it.

[qwints]

Stef - I think that there is now enough evidence to lynch salempc. His last post was extremely scummy. To sum up the case:

1) Complained about lack of content instead of producing it
2) Only makes long posts after constant prodding
3) Most of his posts lack content
4) Extremely defensive post after I pressed him.

[raider8169]

Stef - I think that there is now enough evidence to lynch salempc. His last post was extremely scummy. To sum up the case:

1) Complained about lack of content instead of producing it
2) Only makes long posts after constant prodding
3) Most of his posts lack content
4) Extremely defensive post after I pressed him.

I was hoping for a real case. This is the same thing we have on a few people in this game. I will need to look for the defensive post, I didnt see that the first time through. That may be the only thing separating a couple of people.

[qwints]

Nice reply salem.

The issue has been explained "some pages ago", with no reference to what the explanation was, who made it or pointing to the posts.

Saying that gut reasoning is unconscious reasoning.

Yet again, we have you making completely unhelpful comments.

vote: salempc

uh. Ok

Excuse me for not referring to the exact post numbers.

And that makes me mafia, together with the me always doing completely unhelpful comments, which of course is not quoting any, say "no reference" please?

I've been busy lately, so I'll begin to read what I missed until now.

[SensFan]

This is getting utterly ridiculous. 3 posts in 3 days.

Mod:
Have the people you have prodded answered their prods?
Can you please provide an updated Vote count?
Can you please update the first page? It doesn't show the replacement and people who are dead are in the alive column.
Please mass-prod or prod: qwints, Moratorium, Pacman, Raider and ZONEACE.

I don't yield the power to make you guys answer my questions and i can't make you guys post. I hope this game will revive itself.

Everyone but salempc picked up their prod.
Sure, although I believe it was only last page that I confirmed the Unofficial one was correct.
Sure, I'll prod those people, as long as they have not posted in the last 72 hours.

[SensFan]

Salempc (3) - Porkens, qwints, ZONEACE
Porkens (1) - Stef

Not Voting (5) - crywolf20084, Moratorium, pacman281292, raider8169, Salempc

[SensFan]

This is getting pretty bad. Sensfan posted 10 times today (counting after midnight) without dealing with old requests in at least 2 games he's modding. Remind me not to join a game he's modding again.

With an attitude like that, you will not be welcome in another SensFan game. For fuck's sake, I've been busy this past weekish, and my sig even says that. I also did not have any outstading requests in ANY fucking games I am running. None. Check your facts next time, and I suggest you be a little more respectful, considering how many hours have gone into this game, and you're too impatient to appreciate it.

Any further complaints about my modding capability, since I am obviously so terrible, can be sent via PM.

[qwints]

Sensfan, I apologize if I caused offense. I know real life trumps mafia and I've got no problem with that. I didn't notice your signature when I posted my comment and I apologize for not realizing what was happening. I was angry because I saw you participating in other threads and not the two games I was in that you were modding. I greatly enjoyed the first game I played on mafiascum with you and hope the real life issue were nothing serious.
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With that out of the way, let's focus on the game. I had read salem_pc's silence as scum sensing they were caught and trying to get out of the spotlight, but the failure to pick up the prod may point to a different cause. The fact that he only recently joined the site makes simple flaking an obvious possibility. Even if he truly has left the site, I see his actions thus far as scummy with the chief evidence being his responses to my attacks (see my last post).

Mod, what are the rules on replacements?

[SensFan]

Mod, what are the rules on replacements?

As of now, I am once again, looking for a replacement. He has until I find one to join us or PM me.

Apology accepted.

[SensFan]

Gurgi replaces salem_pc, effective immediately.

[Lord Gurgi]

Hi guys, I will forcibly inject life into this game. If you refuse to show up to answer my questions, I will bandwagon you come heck or high water. If you refuse to answer my questions to my satisfaction, I will bandwagon you come heck or high water. I have already re-read.

The results of my reread were this:

There is a

massively

strong connection between Porkens and qwints. Porkens should be lynched first, as he is obviously scum. qwints can go second, pending Pork alignment. Both of these two also had strong connections to charter, without strongly doing anything. Porkens and charter were quite obviously distancing.

There is a second pairing that I noticed in my reread and it was the Pacman and Moratorium pairing, they tended to drop suspicion for near arbitrary reasons, and tended to vote in a block. I would only fall to these two if one of them managed to do something worse than the Pork/qwints pairing has.

On another note: If you are looking for something out of me concerning the actions of my predecessor, I cannot help you. I will not account for his actions, as I am not him. If you fail to find anything wrong with me beyond the planned lynching above, which for the record, I don't buy as a tell, then please get off my wagon.

Vote: Porkens

Questions?

[Stef]

WOO

Finally get to play a game with you! Welcome.

Any game related posts will come later.

[Porkens]

Welcome.

I outright defy you to present evidence to back up the claim that there's a line to draw between me and quints.

[raider8169]

Nice reply salem.

The issue has been explained "some pages ago", with no reference to what the explanation was, who made it or pointing to the posts.

Saying that gut reasoning is unconscious reasoning.

Yet again, we have you making completely unhelpful comments.

vote: salempc

uh. Ok

Excuse me for not referring to the exact post numbers.

And that makes me mafia, together with the me always doing completely unhelpful comments, which of course is not quoting any, say "no reference" please?

I've been busy lately, so I'll begin to read what I missed until now.

Im not see anything that I would qualify as overly defensive. Maybe its just me.

[Moratorium]

There is a second pairing that I noticed in my reread and it was the Pacman and Moratorium pairing, they tended to drop suspicion for near arbitrary reasons, and

tended to vote in a block.

Looked this up since it came as a surprise, but it appears to just be made up bullshit.

Moratorium Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:51 pm -> voted pacman281292
Moratorium Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:03 am -> Unvoted
Moratorium Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 1:37 pm -> voted charter

pacman281292 Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:08 pm -> voted charter, unvoted, voted crywolf20084, all in same post.
pacman281292 Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 4:15 pm -> unvoted, voted stef
pacman281292 Posted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:05 pm -> unvoted
pacman281292 Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:00 pm -> "Heavy FoS: qwints"

Please elaborate on "tended to vote in a block".

Then please elaborate on...

Both of these two also had strong connections to charter, without strongly doing anything. Porkens and charter were quite obviously distancing.

...not because I don't believe it could be possible, but because obviously your stated opinions aren't to be believed without stated empirical evidence.

If you refuse to show up to answer my questions, I will bandwagon you come heck or high water. If you refuse to answer my questions to my satisfaction, I will bandwagon you come heck or high water.

I'm sorry, was this supposed to come off as impressive and threatening? Were you aiming for "Fired-up football coach"? I had the same reaction reading it as I would to a small basket of kittens.