Mini 709 - Musical Mafia - (Game Over!)

[Wall-E]

Top two: corporate and nekka

I'm going with

Vote: Nekka-Lucifer

for being lucifer

and wow i might get my way 100% this day

no pressure right

Vote Count:
Atlas - (0)
Budja - (0)
corporate - (0)
Gamma - (1) jerseygoomba
jerseygoomba - (2) Tolmides, Atlas
JordanA24 - (0)
My Milked Eek - (0) Gamma
Nekka-Lucifer - (2) zachattack, Wall-E
Tolmides - (0)
Wall-E - (5) Nekka-Lucifer, My Milked Eek, corporate, WhereIsTony, Budja
WhereIsTony - (0)
zachattack - (0)

With 12 alive, 7 votes will end the day.

[zachattack]

Can we not lynch Wall-E just yet? He's at L-2, we haven't really discussed who Gamma should kill tonight, I think corporate is more suspicious then Wall-E, and think if those are our top two suspects corporate should be lynched and Wall-E nightkilled. I'm not changing my vote until Nekka gets here, I really want to see him answer my question, and I suggest if everyone is so insistent on getting rid of Wall-E at least wait for Nekka to get here.

[Wall-E]

Can we not lynch Wall-E just yet? He's at L-2, we haven't really discussed who Gamma should kill tonight, I think corporate is more suspicious then Wall-E, and think if those are our top two suspects corporate should be lynched and Wall-E nightkilled. I'm not changing my vote until Nekka gets here, I really want to see him answer my question, and I suggest if everyone is so insistent on getting rid of Wall-E at least wait for Nekka to get here.

Did you see all of MY questions for Nekka? I hope he answers those as well before I am lynched.

Can we not lynch Wall-E just yet? He's at L-2, we haven't really discussed who Gamma should kill tonight, I think corporate is more suspicious then Wall-E, and think if those are our top two suspects corporate should be lynched and Wall-E nightkilled. I'm not changing my vote until Nekka gets here, I really want to see him answer my question, and I suggest if everyone is so insistent on getting rid of Wall-E at least wait for Nekka to get here.

Did you see all of MY questions for Nekka? I hope he answers those as well before I am lynched.

All your posts seems to do is occasionally state an idea, refuse to listen to any alternatives and then attack the people who point this out.

Well, it seems we're both biased against each other. I wonder what it was that I said that started this line of questioning, Brudja. Can you enlighten me?

[Wall-E]

Dear Nekka-Lucifer:

In your post 60, Nekka, you say that you think Milk is just parroting what everyone else has already said. Can you show a quoted example of each thing Milk said followed by an example of someone else saying it previously?

Nekka-Lucifer's OMGUS attack is noted.

What OMGUS attack?

Unvote

and

Vote: Wally

I was wondering why you're on Gamma's side and not find him suspicious?

That's not a question. It's bad grammar. If you're wondering why I don't find Gamma's claim suspicious, it's because his wagon was suspicious. He acted quite appropriately, in my opinion, in the face of a wagon on him for his random vote (wtf people?). His claim is provable, and if he ever crosses my scumdar it will be a snap to get the momentum to lynch him.

I want some reasoning behind it and I feel you avoided this.

Nope. Avoided would be if I was asked a question and didn't answer. You seem eager to spread blame and suspicion. I've noticed you called four people scum since the game began.

Are we to assume you're A) really good at this game or B) to be largely ignored?

Can you answer the bolded questions?

[zachattack]

Wall-E, what makes you think Nekka is scummier than corporate?

[Gamma]

Do I get any say in who I kill, or is it decided?

(probably a stupid question, but whatever)

[zachattack]

We haven't decided anything yet, feel free to give your opinion on who you think you should use it on. I don't think that anyone is saying your mafia, a lot of people myself included think your an SK, but the SK wants the mafia gone as well so your thoughts are worth hearing.

[Wall-E]

I think, in light of things that have been brought to my attention by people, Gamma should claim his kill after night is over. What say anyone?

[Wall-E]

Wall-E, what makes you think Nekka is scummier than corporate?

Guts.

[zachattack]

Brought to your attention by who?

[Wall-E]

Read my posts in isolation. I've already said whom.

[Budja]

@Gamma, yes of course you have a say. The only reason that we are trying to control you is that you could be a SK.

@Wall-E. I didn't start attacking you, you were already been attacked by MME and others. Look at posts 190 for my initial suspicions and your post at 193 (and most after too) seem to follow this.

This attack on Nekka seems like a distraction but I am still interested in Nekka's response as he did seem scummy.

@zach, you make a good point. Lets hear Nekka before we lynch anyone.

[zachattack]

Can't you ever answer a question? It's almost as if your acting scummy on purpose.

[zachattack]

Wall-E not Budja,

[jerseygoomba]

Wall-E, what makes you think Nekka is scummier than corporate?

Guts.

Umm...I don't exactly feel comfortable with making life or death decisions based solely on guts. I actually prefer some logic go behind things. If that is truly your answer Wall-E, I have to say the band might be better without you. I don't want to bring you to L-1 until we hear from Nekka, so I will refrain for now.

[Wall-E]

@Wall-E. I didn't start attacking you, you were already been attacked by MME and others. Look at posts 190 for my initial suspicions and your post at 193 (and most after too) seem to follow this.

OK, my 2 cents.

Wall-E and corporate are clearly the most suspicious (aside from gamma).
I know I am repeating the general opinion of the town here but these are my views and I will explain them

First, Wall-E's blatent refusal to listen to anyone elses ideas and disregarding MME's serial killer theory without real reason makes him scummy in my book. All of his replys are basically attacks or invalid defence. Why can't the mafia have a roleblocker? , why can't Gamma be a SK?, your posts fails to explain this and simply denounced it without any logic.

Fos Wall-E

But corporate seems to be following Nekka lead with the dodgy explanations, I could forgive the early vote for Atlas, but even your attacks on Wall-E (who is scummy ) are scummy, devoid of any valid/likely explanations. You are either scum or a very paranoid townie and I doubt the latter.

vote corporate

OK, my 2 cents.

Wall-E and corporate are clearly the most suspicious (aside from gamma).
I know I am repeating the general opinion of the town here but these are my views and I will explain them

You have zero case against me.

First, Wall-E's blatent refusal to listen to anyone elses ideas

Provably wrong.

and disregarding MME's serial killer theory without real reason

You have not been reading my posts. I have said exactly why, but I'll REPEAT myself now.

Setup conjecture, especially assumptions with NO precident, are a distraction the scum use to avoid lurking.

Stop giving them room to do so.

makes him scummy in my book. All of his replys are basically attacks or invalid defence. Why can't the mafia have a roleblocker? , why can't Gamma be a SK?, your posts fails to explain this and simply denounced it without any logic.

I've also addressed this, but I don't care to keep my friends awake typing an angry rejoinder, plus it's hard to fake, so if you feel I'm lying, I'll quote myself. Maybe.

its convienent that when the attention was on wall e, you guys immediatley threw it onto me.

Right. I called mad attention to myself so I could throw it all on you. Or maybe you'd like to defend against my specific attacks rather than imagining ones.

I don't understand. What about these two posts? Quote this post and edit it to illustrate, please.

This attack on Nekka seems like a distraction but I am still interested in Nekka's response as he did seem scummy.

It's either a tell or it's not.

[Wall-E]

Wall-E, what makes you think Nekka is scummier than corporate?

Guts.

Umm...I don't exactly feel comfortable with making life or death decisions based solely on guts. I actually prefer some logic go behind things. If that is truly your answer Wall-E, I have to say the band might be better without you. I don't want to bring you to L-1 until we hear from Nekka, so I will refrain for now.

Because one tiny part of my case is supposition I'm scum?

Do you know what WIFOM means?

Everything we do in mafia is subject to WIFOM. I choose to believe the more obvious of two minor aspects of my positions on things that are happening and I'm scum for it?

Faugh. That's garbage.

[My Milked Eek]

First, Wall-E's blatent refusal to listen to anyone elses ideas

Provably wrong.

and disregarding MME's serial killer theory without real reason

You have not been reading my posts. I have said exactly why, but I'll REPEAT myself now.

Setup conjecture, especially assumptions with NO precident, are a distraction the scum use to avoid lurking.

Stop giving them room to do so.

I was reading Wall-E's posts and read something I must've skipped.

Stupid setup conjecture is not what the case is. I deducted nothing from the setup in that case, but purely from the actions of Gamma and the context.

If you say that suspecting Gamma to be an sk is setup conjecture, then I'll hit the ball right back by saying that saying he is a vig is setup conjecture as well. See how easy it is?

Now seriously, stop acting like a freaking idiot and reply to the case.

I think, in light of things that have been brought to my attention by people, Gamma should claim his kill after night is over. What say anyone?

How on earth is this a good idea? It is better than claiming up front, yes, but seriously now? No one is doubting that he has killing abilities. The only thing that is up for discussion is his alignment. Which is not provable.

Stop trying to force us into plans that prove things we already know.

I still feel it's better to either not nk anyone or to nk himself.


I need to do some studying right now, but I'll post more tonight ^^

[WhereIsTony]

I think, in light of things that have been brought to my attention by people, Gamma should claim his kill after night is over. What say anyone?

we will know by the time night is over?

do you mean after the day is over?

won't the thread be locked.

I don't think he should announce it but if he does he should do it when someone is L-1

[Gamma]

I think, in light of things that have been brought to my attention by people, Gamma should claim his kill after night is over. What say anyone?

we will know by the time night is over?

do you mean after the day is over?

won't the thread be locked.

I don't think he should announce it but if he does he should do it when someone is L-1

He means the next day, I say who i nightkilled the previous night.

[WhereIsTony]

won't the dialogue tell us.

I have never played a game on this forum, with a vigilante.

Does it just tell us who is dead and not the role that killed him?

[zachattack]

Can we prod nekka? It's been 72 hours.

[jerseygoomba]

Speaking of, are we going to relax the 72 hour rule for the holiday weekend? A lot of folks are traveling.

[Tolmides]

I'm not travelling but I've been really busy last couple of days, so sorry I haven't been posting much. I'm reading over what I've missed now and I'll be posting in a bit.

[Riceballtail]

Prodding Nekka-Lucifer.