Xyl's Relative Chaos - Game over!

[MafiaSSK]

What I'm getting at is what does wanting a claim have to do with lynching scum? You vote because you think they are scum and in rare occurrences should the claim itself be what makes you change your mind - normally because it makes some of the behavior fit better.

My last vote was to get him to claim, not as much so to lynch. Since I now believe he is lying, he's the most scummy to me and that earns the vote to stay.

How much more of a difference was his scumminess to you from when you wanted him to claim and now?

Pushing people simply for the claims themselves is scummy. Scummy enough to

Vote: DoomCow

No, the reason I choose for a wagon, is to force a reaction from the one who it's on. That reaches to a general agreeable conclusion of the day.

Didn't you say that you wanted a claim on the person?

Vote Doomcow

The thing is he didn't say -anything- about what he could do. He could have claimed some hybrid hider/cop or a myriad of things that would have drawn out something instead of just going down in flames. Thats the reason why I think he's telling the truth.

And it's the exact reason I think he's lying.

How could that be lying?

[MafiaSSK]

on CC: if we lynch him, then at best we catch a lying scum. at worst, we catch a non-aligned banana which isn't helping the town. i see no reason why we shouldn't lynch him today.

How is CC being scummy?

-SSK

[MafiaSSK]

I must be retarded. I am missing it entirely.

DGB alluded to previous agreement with the DC case, but having gone back through her posts, no such support is expressed. When this is pointed out, she promptly unvotes, instead of keeping the vote on DC and saying that she probably forgot to agree with the case expicitly. To top that, she tries to tie me to DC when I vote her for the 180 stunt.
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From my understanding of DGB's meta, that points to her not being mafia.

[Crazy]

Posting this message in Open 95 and Relative Chaos.

Sorry for the inactivity; I thought I'd get caught up tonight, but at this point it's almost 1 a.m. and I am leaving for a trip tomorrow. Unfortunately:

V/LA until Thursday

I still want to be in this game; don't replace me please.

[ZazieR]

Sorry, but I'll respond some other time. I'm going to finish some things in RL which will take some time, probably two days. So I'll be LA. If there's anything you need from me just post it as I might see it as I'll probably be around and watch my games a bit.

[CoheedCambria09]

@Vi: So I'm assuming you don't believe the claim?

vote:DoomCow

for joinging a wagon for the sole sake of seeing a claim, and not for finding the wagonee scummy.

And I've asked this before but havent seen an answer, what was DGB's slip?

[Vi]

@Vi: So I'm assuming you don't believe the claim?

As of this time, I believe you are generic third-party.
You said things to the effect of "I have no interest in helping the Town" and "I will not (for whatever reason) tell you how much of a threat I can be".
Therefore I endorse your death for effectively being an anti-Town element, but also believe that there is a higher payoff in hitting DoomCow-scum, as SpyreX said.

[DrippingGoofball]

OK. I'm satisfied that Vi is town.

[farside22]

DC is at L-2. A claim would be a good idea at this point.

[Korts]

mod: condsider me pseudo-V/LA until next Friday. I got some exams and experiments and such.

I'm willing to vote DC pending a claim.

[Xylthixlm]

Vote Count

CoheedCambria09 -

5

(dahill1, farside22, tubby216, DoomCow, Natirasha)
DoomCow -

5

(hasdgfas, SpyreX, animorpherv1, Vi, CoheedCambria09)
DrippingGoofball -

1

(Korts)
tubby216 -

1

(ZazieR)
Korts -

1

(Crazy)

Not voting: MafiaSSK, DrippingGoofball

With 15 alive, it will take 8 to lynch. The deadline for day 1 will be Saturday, December 13.

The mass V/LA until

Friday

Sunday is noted. The deadline date was wrong, and has been corrected.

[farside22]

Vote Count

CoheedCambria09 -

5

(dahill1, farside22, tubby216, DoomCow, Natirasha)
DoomCow -

5

(hasdgfas, SpyreX, animorpherv1, Vi, CoheedCambria09)
DrippingGoofball -

1

(Korts)
tubby216 -

1

(ZazieR)
Korts -

1

(Crazy)

Not voting: MafiaSSK, DrippingGoofball

With 15 alive, it will take 8 to lynch. The deadline for day 1 will be Saturday, December 13.

The mass V/LA until Friday is noted. The deadline date was wrong, and has been corrected.

I take it MafiaSSK vote didn't count because of where he placed it?
Since I don't know when he will be around again and I endorse a DC lynch.

unvote:
vote: doomcow

[Korts]

Ok, that's L-1 now. I suggest that MafiaSSK shouldn't revote until a claim.

[farside22]

Ok, that's L-1 now. I suggest that MafiaSSK shouldn't revote until a claim.

Look at the vote count. It is L-2 with my vote.

[Korts]

Gah, that's what I meant...

[hasdgfas]

how perceptive dahill, your missing the point

i have no incentive to help anyone.

Think of me as a freelance vote, I go with the cases I feel are the strongest.

I can't believe I missed this. Anyone mind explaining why people are jumping

off

the wagon after this.

Mod: I will have little, if any, access, from wednesday through sunday

[SpyreX]

I can't believe I missed this. Anyone mind explaining why people are jumping off the wagon after this.

Because it fits with CC not knowing his alignment. It makes no sense for him to be lying (and these little gems reaffirm that).

He is in essence third-party. I would rather hit scum - and since its so easy to string up a third-party it makes sense that scum would be on that wagon. DC is the one that stood out for that.

[tubby216]

ok so doomcow is at L-2

and CC is at L-3

i would be willing to change my vote pending a claim,, but for now i'll leave my vote where it stands

[dahill1]

Meanwhile, I do endorse other people realizing DGB's slip.

That's all you have to say in a post? Really?? Where have you posted a full-blown, good case whereas you can say that?

lol @ dis irony

on CC: if we lynch him, then at best we catch a lying scum. at worst, we catch a non-aligned banana which isn't helping the town. i see no reason why we shouldn't lynch him today.

How is CC being scummy?

-SSK

read the (multiple) cases i wrote on him. in short: CC placed an opportunistic vote and admitted his only reason was to join the largest bandwagon. that's pretty scummy. also, you may have missed that HE ADMITTED TO NOT BEING TOWN.

[farside22]

Seriously DC needs to come back I feel an like people are missing out on some scum versus 3rd party.

[dahill1]

farside, i can see the points people are making on why DC should claim and i agree. i just don't want to lynch him before he claims

[DoomCow]

I'm not seeing why I'm guilty for being honest. I did a blatant bandwagon vote, pushing for a claim, I confirmed my reasoning for it (twice), and in less thatn 24 hours after that (with several players not able to post during it), got from 2 votes to 6.

I'm happy with my vote where it is, and I'm not that convinced I should claim, since I was honest about my motivations. One more vote will probably force me to claim, and I probably will, but I find this a bit fast.

Again, I never made it unclear that I wanted the claim, and I wasn't willing to believe it. Also, I haven't seen any real reasoning in the votes against me, besides "he wants a claim". CC was already at 6 votes without mine, that made it cleadr he seemed scum to most of town, and thus that a claim was wanted. I merely responded to that.

And Hasdfgas, about your last post: If you're convincesd that what you quote is worthy of asking why an unvote, then why not a vote for it? From that post, it seems you want people to keep him a target, so why not put your action where your mouth is?

[Korts]

unvote, vote: DoomCow

You can claim now.

[animorpherv1]

DC, a claim

could

save you at this point, yet you fail to claim? Auto scum manuver, where I play. I say lynch him NOW.

[DoomCow]

Very well, I will claim, but just to tell, Korts voted me for the exact same reason I got bandwagonned, he just wants a claim. And I'm sure he's not the only one doing so voting for me.

I am a so called "Jack of all trades". I have several very different night abilities, all one shot, and one used per night.