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[Kowahbunga]

I appreciate y'all trying so hard out the gate but I think most of what's been argued so far isn't really alignment indicative

Also btw FoSing is out of style these days

I feel like everything is alignment indicative. Every post is made with intentions. Its not up to the poster to express this, but up to the player-base to interpret.

Both town and mafia can make contentless posts for no reason or for whatever reason really. It is a common mistake for town to assume that every post has intention.

VOTE: Greeting

Mind elaborating?

"It is a common mistake for town to assume that every post has intention."

I believe this sentence is a scumslip.

I see where you're coming from and it's reasonable enough to throw a D1 vote Greeting's way over that, but it seems a little flimsy for me -- at least for a vote at this stage where I believe there's much more solid evidence of scummy behavior among glitch, ballpoint, and curiouskarmadog.

Or maybe you should just vote Greeting so we can put a scum in the machine?

[Cephrir]

i think bub's analysis is actually fairly decent all things considered (i.e. it's page 6) but i prefer a different one of his suspects

VOTE: glitch

[ballpointpen]

stop reading too much into it bub, its obvious that my vote for hu was nothing more than a statement against anime

[ballpointpen]

VOTE: curiouskarmadog

bub noting that karma's explanation for voting kawaii was effectively bullshit is the most villager-y thing he's done all game, and karma's chances of being wolf were raised by a solid 17% because of that

[ballpointpen]

Or maybe you should just vote Greeting so we can put a scum in the machine?

you aren't doing anything by shouting this into the void
if greeting were to flip town, then what would your reads look like

[KittyTacky]

igmeoy is an old term used in place of FOS, usually to mean even less intense of a scumread than an FOS would indicate.

Ah that's why I never saw it.

[KittyTacky]

UNVOTE:

[KittyTacky]

I'll sheep the CKD case.

VOTE: CKD

[Flavor Leaf]

oh hi boon

yo

[Flavor Leaf]

Hello all. Been two years since I played but I’m excited to be back. I saw a few others are back from hiatus as well. I imagine some of us are back cause of the newsletter. I know I am. Cool deal.

Lots of talk about RVS and how useful/useless it is so far.

It's been just under a year since my last game, and really only played two games ish last year, so fun to see this for sure. I'm going to try to keep a limited pace.

I have one tinfoil 'hmm, this might be coming from scum' ping so far, but it's just a feeling, but I don't think I'm ready to share who I think it is quite yet.

[KittyTacky]

Hi FL.

[curiouskarmadog]

Hu Tao, I had the below question for you that you ignored please answer.
Also, why did you choice not to answer the question the first time?

It begins

Hello everyone

So right off the bat I'm somewhat suspicious of both Kawaii and Hu Tao here. This is admitedly somewhat weak because the game just started, but both of these posts are really fluffy, non-commital and not progressing the game. Now, is this progressing the game more than a random vote? I dunno, but the reason why "random" votes are a thing is to create an initial paper trail of some sort...they aren't really random, so it immediately puts the scum in a bit of a pick of whether or not to bus. So far, these posts are just the most flimsy, "hey I'm here but not actually advancing the game" kind of posts.

I'm, going to go ahead and VOTE: Hu Tao


Mainly because it was another post right after a fluff post by Kawaii. Kind of reads as scum thinking "okay, need to say something now to not look suspicious" while being non-comittal.

Also going to put a

finger of suspicion on Kawaii

for similar sorts of reasons, but I think it's very unlikely that both Kawaii and Hu are scum. No way a scum comes in right after their buddy to make an almost identical post.

Im sold.

However, Im going to

vote Kawaii

I hate finger of suspicions...its like getting credit for a vote without having to do anything. If Kawaii flips scum, this looks sketchy.

consider this my

finger of suspicion (any hypocrisy) on Bub

Why vote him over me if you're "sold"?

LOL.....

what exactly do you think his point was there? break it down what YOU think the point is please.

Bub,

Do you think avoiding a direct question is scummy or a townie action?

Did you thoroughly read (try to find scum) when you said the below?

I'm getting a mild townie read from Hsu but I'm not 100%. They didn't panic or immediately deflect when under some mild pressure, but did use it as opportunity to ask questions. For example, I read their post #59 questioning curiouskarmadog's vote for Kawaii over Hsu as a good faith attempt to scumhunt and not a panic deflection. Still early and I'm not married to this read, but for now in the town pile.

So instead of him looking scummy to you, you vote me?

In your “you are not scum hunting post”

You completely leave off my question to Hu Tao, why?

IN post 96 (that you did post), I am highlighting to common scum tactics there. Waiting for Andante to address.

also

unvote

[Hu Tao]

I'm glad with curious votes. I think they are the most suspicious still. No updates to my reads. I do think someone who was on my wagon is likely scum trying to put a vote down, but I can't say that is all for certain

[Hu Tao]

Also btw FoSing is out of style these days

I dont think it was ever in style.

It begins

Hello everyone

So right off the bat I'm somewhat suspicious of both Kawaii and Hu Tao here. This is admitedly somewhat weak because the game just started, but both of these posts are really fluffy, non-commital and not progressing the game. Now, is this progressing the game more than a random vote? I dunno, but the reason why "random" votes are a thing is to create an initial paper trail of some sort...they aren't really random, so it immediately puts the scum in a bit of a pick of whether or not to bus. So far, these posts are just the most flimsy, "hey I'm here but not actually advancing the game" kind of posts.

I'm, going to go ahead and VOTE: Hu Tao


Mainly because it was another post right after a fluff post by Kawaii. Kind of reads as scum thinking "okay, need to say something now to not look suspicious" while being non-comittal.

Also going to put a

finger of suspicion on Kawaii

for similar sorts of reasons, but I think it's very unlikely that both Kawaii and Hu are scum. No way a scum comes in right after their buddy to make an almost identical post.

Im sold.

However, Im going to

vote Kawaii

I hate finger of suspicions...its like getting credit for a vote without having to do anything. If Kawaii flips scum, this looks sketchy.

consider this my

finger of suspicion (any hypocrisy) on Bub

Why vote him over me if you're "sold"?

LOL.....

what exactly do you think his point was there? break it down what YOU think the point is please.

You are basically saying you're sold on his cases but voted the one he has a scumread on that he didn't vote. Because you think it could he a soft bus? But if you think that why would you agree with the cases in the first place. I think you should be answering it, not having others answer for you.

[NJAC]

I think Hu Tao can go to my town pile.

@Hu Tao: what's your experience with Mafia games?

Why?

I liked his response to the pressure.

Bub explained it better in 118.

This also answers Hu Tao's 109.

[NJAC]

I think Bub can go to my town pile too. I kind of like his cases, except maybe the case on ballpointpen, who I think is putting some effort into the game.

[Save The Dragons]

I appreciate y'all trying so hard out the gate but I think most of what's been argued so far isn't really alignment indicative

Also btw FoSing is out of style these days

I feel like everything is alignment indicative. Every post is made with intentions. Its not up to the poster to express this, but up to the player-base to interpret.

Both town and mafia can make contentless posts for no reason or for whatever reason really. It is a common mistake for town to assume that every post has intention.

VOTE: Greeting

Mind elaborating?

"It is a common mistake for town to assume that every post has intention."

I believe this sentence is a scumslip.

I see where you're coming from and it's reasonable enough to throw a D1 vote Greeting's way over that, but it seems a little flimsy for me -- at least for a vote at this stage where I believe there's much more solid evidence of scummy behavior among glitch, ballpoint, and curiouskarmadog.

Or maybe you should just vote Greeting so we can put a scum in the machine?

don't go chasing waterfalls
stick to the...uh...rivers...and lakes...or something

[Andante]

Making some vague allusions to the idea that Andate is scummy with no follow-up or serious pursuit. Just trying to sow generally mistrust on people in low-cost ways is scummy. This makes me think Andate is town

I agree, the other dog should've just full sent a scumread, like, I could scumcase myself better than dog's weak push, also I thought that "sarcasm font" comment was weird, like, they think I showed up just to tell jokes? I genuinely didn't catch on? I put the igmeoy letters in the wiki search, nothing came up, but, as a slot who hasn't started playing the game as of that point (sorry, real life was INSANE) that's really just a weird comment, like, might as well full send the "andante isn't doing shit" angle

also, agree with that last point I also think Andante town!

[Andante]

Waiting for Andante to address.

What am I addressing? I didn't specifically say I was going to address anything? You say this like I was all "I will give yall a 17p reads list right after my exams!!" which I did not in fact say.

also lol I', laughing cause the 123 thing was on dog being scum, and here's dog trying to pick on me solely for not being around. lmaooo ohh good luck with this "fight" dog cause I am back. Stress be gone. You want me here? oh I'm here, no longer that easy push cause I had no posts...

[Andante]

VOTE: curiouskarmadog

I don't have many reads, but this is just "I'm pushing a low poster cause I can" and it's "here's a push, but I can't push too much just cause there's nothing for the slot, but if I shade her enough, I can get votes there"

sorry, only enough room for 1 dog in this town.

[Flavor Leaf]

Making some vague allusions to the idea that Andate is scummy with no follow-up or serious pursuit. Just trying to sow generally mistrust on people in low-cost ways is scummy. This makes me think Andate is town

I agree, the other dog should've just full sent a scumread, like,

I could scumcase myself better than dog's weak push

also I thought that "sarcasm font" comment was weird, like, they think I showed up just to tell jokes? I genuinely didn't catch on? I put the igmeoy letters in the wiki search, nothing came up, but, as a slot who hasn't started playing the game as of that point (sorry, real life was INSANE) that's really just a weird comment, like, might as well full send the "andante isn't doing shit" angle

also, agree with that last point I also think Andante town!

Can you do this? Legitimately curious and would like you to.

[ballpointpen]

I'll sheep the CKD case.

VOTE: CKD

do you have any other thoughts about the game so far

[ballpointpen]

I think Hu Tao can go to my town pile.

@Hu Tao: what's your experience with Mafia games?

Why?

I liked his response to the pressure.

Bub explained it better in 118.

This also answers Hu Tao's 109.

ironically i see hu tao's aggressive responses as their playstyle instead of ai behavior
i do agree with most of their takes, but i don't trust mindmelds

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