Hollow Knight Mafia [game over]

[furtiveglance]

i ask because i want you to explain your thought process but also because it isn't clear at all from your posting where that change in mindset came from

During that time, if I had to have voted I would have gone Klick.

[fireisredsir]

that doesn't really tell me anything but okay

do you feel that you have to vote today

[furtiveglance]

that doesn't really tell me anything but okay

do you feel that you have to vote today

If you voted Klick I'd probably hammer within the day, although right now that seems unlikely

[fireisredsir]

and what made you feel more comfortable being the decider now compared to yesterday?

[furtiveglance]

I'm not sure. Maybe Gimli's confidence makes me think I'm right?

[fireisredsir]

that is at least some insight thank you

[Gimli]

gimli you've kinda had the narrative that klick has been following your pushes around

but im rereading and klick was the first one to back off of me and say i was town

you argued a bit at first and then followed after that

ik you'll prob just say that means it was a pocket attempt and it worked. which. okay, sure, whatever

but it is at least a much more proactive and decisive approach

and i don't think the weight of my towniness was insurmountable or anything. i think deciding im town there puts scum in a worse spot. for klick scum i think it's harder to argue that you're still within scumrange than me. and he had already just said he had furtive pretty much off the table

furtive said i was mistaking waffling for nuance but i don't think that this was waffling at all. this was making an active choice to follow a more difficult path imo

and yea i guess it's possible klick scum decided that was the way to go but idk

yeah thats true he did townread you first and the reasoning made sense, I said he was behind my pushes though which is totally the case. klick didn't push anyone as scum last gameday, only on the back of my effort, and only did it today on the guy that voted him after the fact. I don't think he'd seriously consider me as mafia in this game after how d8 went but throughout, and so far his push on me is like furtive says pure OMGUSing. I'm sure he'll case me at some point and I'm sure all my posts can be construed as something a wolf is doing, but he is calling me mafia imo without a proper justification that goes beyond 'you're pushing me for reasons I don't agree with', and it's funny cause he said I'm his solve and that his message was trying to trap me into voting furtive.

[Gimli]

guess we're waiting for klick to case me (or decide he'll case furtive?) and then we'll move on

I'm here to chat this weekend if anyone wants to

[fireisredsir]

i think finding reasons to clear people and call them town in elo is, if anything, more towny than scumcasing people

[Klick]

V/LA 2 days

Really longer than 2 days that I'll be on vacation, but I should be able to play enough after 2 days

Noted. ~D

[Gimli]

i think finding reasons to clear people and call them town in elo is, if anything, more towny than scumcasing people

yeah, but in this case I think they were pocket attempts.

[fireisredsir]

I don't think he'd seriously consider me as mafia in this game after how d8 went but throughout

does the fact that i am town and am also seriously considering you as mafia change your opinion at all

[Gimli]

I don't think he'd seriously consider me as mafia in this game after how d8 went but throughout

does the fact that i am town and am also seriously considering you as mafia change your opinion at all

thats not the only reason why I think it's klick

[Gimli]

@fireisred look at the reactions klick is having to your furtive case, in this gameday. furtive has softed traitor a few times, wanted no-elim last gameday when it looks like we're dealing with an odd night, and has a role that fits with game's flavour as a scum role. do you think klick doesn't understand that? I think he does, so when he quotes you in #6201, for instance, to go 'i dont see what you're seeing', this is meant to persuade you into elaborating so that you become the pusher so that he doesn't have to.

[Gimli]

I'd be willing to consider furtive and not tunneled if he didn't behave like a wolf, and I think from the end of d8 forward klick stopped making sense as town

you don't see what I'm seeing, that's fair, but I don't think I'm wrong

[furtiveglance]

Klick is moving like Schrodinger's cat

How long til deadline? I'll probably vote Klick unless Gimli has concerns about fire

[Gimli]

I think fire's been very town

[Datisi]

VOTE COUNT 9.03

WITH 4 VOTES IN PLAY, IT TAKES 3 TO MAKE A DECISION. DAY 9 ENDS IN (expired on 2023-03-24 22:15:00).

execution

KLICK [1]:

Gimli

GIMLI [1]:

Klick

NOT VOTING [2]:

fireisredsir, furtiveglance

mod notes

All vote counters have been borked by the newest update, so please let me know if there are mistakes in the VC.
This is a mod note.

[furtiveglance]

Klick, why shouldn't I vote for you?

[fireisredsir]

i reread a bit but im not sure how much it's helping me tbh

[Gimli]

prod dodge

still pretty much here to chat, am done with reading the game at this point tho

[furtiveglance]

Well

I'll see what Klick says

[Datisi]

Prodding Klick.

[Klick]

Hi I'm here I exist. We're on vacation back in America to see my family.

I should have some time to dive in tonight. Main goal is decisively sorting between Gimli and furtive, and expressing my reasoning.

[Gimli]

Hi I'm here I exist. We're on vacation back in America to see my family.

Nice, Hope youre having Fun!