Open 875 - The Kindgom of Zeal: The Queens Chosen - GAME OVER

[Detective Penguin]

I think you should since you were just at

and I think you could just be scum too.

Which would imply he's lying.

[Detective Penguin]

I think Ranger 100% claimed n1 to buy time

“I act on n1” claim unpromptedly

You can also let me know which one you think it actually is....

[Detective Penguin]

or we could just yeet korina and I would be a happy penguin

[Gimli]

LLD claimed a tell on Ranger that I think I see too. Why wouldn’t I believe LLD and think Ranger’s lying especially after self-vote and “I act on n1” claim unpromptedly

Can you tell me what the tell is?

[Detective Penguin]

no - because they're making it up

[LavosCore]

Replacement?

Sail has requested replacement.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

no - because they're making it up

maybe, but I'm not.

[Detective Penguin]

i didn't say you were, nor am i advocating for your yeet

[Cephrir]

LLD claimed a tell on Ranger that I think I see too. Why wouldn’t I believe LLD and think Ranger’s lying especially after self-vote and “I act on n1” claim unpromptedly

If this is true you have the power to tell us what it is

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i didn't say you were, nor am i advocating for your yeet

yes but you are protecting Ranger, and despite Ranger's efforts to make this personal my read on Ranger remains about her behaviour and gameplay.

So I'm really trying to shoot down all the nonsense and just kill her today.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

LLD claimed a tell on Ranger that I think I see too. Why wouldn’t I believe LLD and think Ranger’s lying especially after self-vote and “I act on n1” claim unpromptedly

If this is true you have the power to tell us what it is

I'd frankly love to hear it, because if it's the same one I see it's not contained anymore so who cares and if it's not I can break a disillusioned connection.

But given I'm not willing to share mine I'm not gonna push for it.

[Detective Penguin]

i didn't say you were, nor am i advocating for your yeet

yes but you are protecting Ranger, and despite Ranger's efforts to make this personal my read on Ranger remains about her behaviour and gameplay.

So I'm really trying to shoot down all the nonsense and just kill her today.

I mean - that's fine but despite your feelings, you aren't doing much to convince me that Ranger is scum since you are basing your read on something you don't want to discuss. I don't see it, and I think Korina's behavior is objectively scummy.

You can call everything else nonsense, but I think that's what you are peddling with your tunnel on Ranger since you won't back it up.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i didn't say you were, nor am i advocating for your yeet

yes but you are protecting Ranger, and despite Ranger's efforts to make this personal my read on Ranger remains about her behaviour and gameplay.

So I'm really trying to shoot down all the nonsense and just kill her today.

I mean - that's fine but despite your feelings, you aren't doing much to convince me that Ranger is scum since you are basing your read on something you don't want to discuss. I don't see it, and I think Korina's behavior is objectively scummy.

You can call everything else nonsense, but I think that's what you are peddling with your tunnel on Ranger since you won't back it up.

I've literally written pages about Ranger's responses in this game and why they are scummy. Why Ranger's behaviour in this game is scummy. And you're choosing to focus on the initial spark of suspicion.

Go read my ISO. Go read what I have written about the manner in which Ranger has reacted to this suspicion. She has been consistently scummy by reaction by pressure by reads.

The Ethel read that just popped up out of nowhere, the magical floating read I somehow managed to create in her as if flailing to find a way out before finally settling on this emotional attack.

The general refusal to interact with any of the points I brought up but a sudden desire to go at one she found a weakness for.

The self vote and the agrandizement of the "woe is me" to emotionally manipulate others. The seeking of refuge in absurdity that has hit others over the head.

There was a literal string of posts where I go "this is what she is doing, she is trying to make this reaction happen" and in the same breath someone posts LITERALLY THAT REACTION.

I have been doing the work and putting in my views and challening and poking and if you aren't paying attention that's not on me, Penguin.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also, 26%.

[Save The Dragons]

if ranger is a n1 doc, she protects furtive and gets killed because scum think she could be a n1 cop.

if ranger is a n1 cop, she dies because scum think she could be a n1 cop.

if ranger is mafia, we can lim her tomorrow. scum aren't going to leave a potential n1 cop alive.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

if ranger is a n1 doc, she protects furtive and gets killed because scum think she could be a n1 cop.

if ranger is a n1 cop, she dies because scum think she could be a n1 cop.

if ranger is mafia, we can lim her tomorrow. scum aren't going to leave a potential n1 cop alive.

so you're saying we do neither furtive nor Ranger today because if Ranger is a town doc, we always get a furtive result and get to evaluate them both from there

if ranger's cop, we get at least one cop check and scum have to shoot one of them.

and we get to re-evaluate tomorrow regardless.

I'm willing to accept this argument, but who are we killing today instead, then?

[Save The Dragons]

i could probably do Sail. i'm probably null on Korina at this point. i think redFF is another good slot to target. Rat is ???. i have no idea on umlaut.

wouldn't do pengy, gimly, cephy, lldy, ethely, and obv rangery and furtivy at this point

VOTE: sail

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i could probably do Sail. i'm probably null on Korina at this point. i think redFF is another good slot to target. Rat is ???. i have no idea on umlaut.

wouldn't do pengy, gimly, cephy, lldy, ethely, and obv rangery and furtivy at this point

VOTE: sail

Lemme go look at my posting from today before I turned off the part of my brain that thinks about mafia and went into kill mode, which was about post 329.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Vote: Gimli

[Lady Lambdadelta]

If we aren't doing either today and we're picking up this thread of conversation tomorrow, Gimli's the elimination. Gimli's early positioning around the Ranger wagon is bad, scummy regardless of Ranger's alignment and the more recent posting of give up feels like an apathy strike. Gimli also feels different to when they were town in 2019.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Oh but if we're not doing Ranger today, if I die tonight, you fucking merc Ranger savvy?

[Save The Dragons]

i said i wouldn't do gimly but i think i'm on the fence

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm willing to do Gimli or RedFF and that's about it if we aren't doing Ranger.

[Save The Dragons]

i guess someone could doc ranger n1 that's a potential flaw but i'd recommend not doing that

[Save The Dragons]

VOTE: redFF i'm more comfortable here