Mini 709 - Musical Mafia - (Game Over!)

[WhereIsTony]

WhereIsTony: Why did you say the mafia have a blocker?

I was making what we in the industry call assumption. in most games mafia have a blocker, especially if other power roles exist. which most likely a vig or sk do.

Wally - are you assuming they don't

Vote Count:
Atlas - (0)
Budja - (1) corporate
corporate - (1) Wall-E
Gamma - (2) Budja, jerseygoomba
jerseygoomba - (2) Tolmides, Atlas
JordanA24 - (0)
My Milked Eek - (0) Gamma
Nekka-Lucifer - (1) zachattack
Tolmides - (0)
Wall-E - (3) Nekka-Lucifer, My Milked Eek, JordanA24
WhereIsTony - (0)
zachattack - (0)

With 12 alive, 7 votes will end the day.

[Wall-E]

Tony: Why do you insist the mafia have a blocker?

[Wall-E]

Sorry, ninja'd.

[Wall-E]

in most games mafia have a blocker,

Really? Hm. Can you provide some evidence? Show me three games where the mafia had a blocker.

Any three.

I will show you two for every one of yours that don't without breaking a sweat.

Again, why the assurance that the mafia have a blocker?

[corporate]

unvote vote wall e

[b/]

i call you out and you give yourself a nice way out by saying youll come back when people stop repeating things I've already addressed. nice.

that sounds like youre opening a door for yourself to sit in the back seat and possibly lurk for a minute untill the heat comes off of you.

i dont like this.

[corporate]

ebwop

unvote vote wall e

[WhereIsTony]

look up "assumption" did i say they definitely have a blocker, no.

But it is a risk.

and pointing out specific games is retarded logic.

[Wall-E]

NEver really explained why you are such a fan. It does however make snse if you are Scum, and are hoping that when and if Gamma buys it you can go "see i told you". Only scum would be so SURE another player is town.

I've already addressed this, too.

jumps on
nekka for asking hy the allegiance. says it is "provable" puts the flawed number 2 argument in play....why flawed?

because if he is a vig (or a SK) than the mafia know his target they block him if its mafia, and don't if he's town. Effectively supplying the mafia with an extra townkill potential a night.

I don't understand this and whatever it is, it's probably stupid. Or you're a mafia blocker (or know who is).

[Wall-E]

unvote vote wall e

[b/]

i call you out and you give yourself a nice way out by saying youll come back when people stop repeating things I've already addressed. nice.

that sounds like youre opening a door for yourself to sit in the back seat and possibly lurk for a minute untill the heat comes off of you.

i dont like this.

So now you're voting me for lurking when I'm not.

Nice.

[My Milked Eek]

2) I believe you still haven't answered;
- the question of why you directly believe gamma without any doubt.
Already answered that.

Sure.

- my request of replying to the sk theory
You can't force me to join you in shitty conjecture.

I didn't say join. I asked for your opinion on the case and suggestions. Surely, it can't be that hard to do?

- how on earth Gamma can prove anything without being killed in the process
He can't, except that he's a killer. And if, as Tony pointed out, the mafia "block" his night kill, we know who the scum are, so WHY KILL GAMMA?

Scenario: Gamma is told to focus on townie. Mafia RB Gamma. Townie is found "guilty". Townie lynched. Keeping him alive leads to too many wifom, even if he plays by our rules.

Why is it wrong to assume a mafia RB? Why are you trying to push around the need for evidence.

No set-up is equal to another. Trying to prove this game does not have a RoleBlocker by another game is a very empty point.

[Wall-E]

EBWOP: You're voting me for your assumption that I'll now lurk. Double nice.

[My Milked Eek]

EBWOP;
Apparantly I overwrote;

Why is it wrong to assume a mafia RB?

I try to approach games from a worst case scenario and act from there

. Why ...

[Wall-E]

Milk said: - my request of replying to the sk theory

I said: You can't force me to join you in shitty conjecture.

Milk said: I didn't say join. I asked for your opinion on the case and suggestions. Surely, it can't be that hard to do?

I said: Ok: Here's my opinion: Your idea is dumb conjecture. I suggest you start scumhunting.

Milk said: Why is it wrong to assume a mafia RB? Why are you trying to push around the need for evidence. No set-up is equal to another. Trying to prove this game does not have a RoleBlocker by another game is a very empty point.

I said: We're saying the same thing. Tony's language made it clear he believes there is a blocker for NO REASON. If he'd said "Kill the vig" rather than block I wouldn't have a problem. Are you playing dumb? I'm not trying to prove there is no blocker, I'm calling Tony out as scum.

[corporate]

no wall e i did NOT vote for you for lurking. i voted for you for preparing a easy exit. stop putting words in my mouth.

confirm vote

[Wall-E]

But your easy exit involves me lurking.

Which I'm not.

So... why are you voting for me?

[Wall-E]

THREAD EXPLOSION

anyone else want to stand up to my Irrefutable Logic?

[WhereIsTony]

NEver really explained why you are such a fan. It does however make snse if you are Scum, and are hoping that when and if Gamma buys it you can go "see i told you". Only scum would be so SURE another player is town.

I've already addressed this, too.

jumps on
nekka for asking hy the allegiance. says it is "provable" puts the flawed number 2 argument in play....why flawed?

because if he is a vig (or a SK) than the mafia know his target they block him if its mafia, and don't if he's town. Effectively supplying the mafia with an extra townkill potential a night.

I don't understand this and whatever it is, it's probably stupid. Or you're a mafia blocker (or know who is).

1. not to anyone i have seen's satisfaction.

2. wow more sarcasminstead of presenting arguments. If the mafia has a blocker (they may they may not) but IF they do your idea ensures them two nightkills.

If we believe gamma is pro-town we should not leash him in a way that is very possibly bad for the town.

If we believe he is not we should vote for him.

I have gone from the latter camp to the former.

[corporate]

tony knows RB exist in theory and wants to protect the town from such possibilities.

what a asshole huh wall e?

i think its pretty anti town to NOT consider a RB as a option. so.... kudos to tony.

[Wall-E]

I agree with your points 100%!!

I'm just wondering where blocker suddenly joined the terminology in this game.

It started with you.

Relax! I'm not going to switch my vote from corporate's scumbutt.

Understand: I've caught scum through their slips about the setup before. It's actually more common than you might think.

[Wall-E]

yeah buddy up to him corporate

[Atlas]

im moving my FoS to a

FoS wall e and atlas

atlas has backed down since i called him out and it looks like wall e has picked up where he left off. i feel like they are working together.

and jordan, yes i can. did you read his 44?

What the heck are you talking about?

Where have I backed down?

More coming later.

CONFIRM VOTE: CORPORATE

[corporate]

lol @ omgus

[Wall-E]

But your easy exit involves me lurking.

Which I'm not.

So... why are you voting for me?

CONFIRM VOTE: CORPORATE

[WhereIsTony]

Corporates actions are suspicios, they are overshadowed by Wally's

but Cor, I will be watcing you more closely.

(lol, i feel almost bad after the kudos)

@atlas was your "more to come" just your vote being confirmed, or is there still more coming?

[corporate]

i think the mobs trying to lynch me today so they dont have to look suspicious at night. im onto you atlas and wall e and you guys dont like it. "YOU HAVE BACKED DOWN" in my opinion alot in the past pages. or maybe you just came on strong in the first few. but now with the thread explosion i think you tow are acting shakey.

and wall e im not buddying up to anyone, but i think his actions are more pro town then yours getting on someones case for looking out for us.