Mini 702--Serum & Steel(The rust has settled/Game Over)

[Porkens]

I got role-cop from the serum. I do not wish to full claim at this moment.

Ok, so you confirm that you are a role-cop. So "Metal Fleet" is TE's role (but what the hell that means we still don't know). I think that was said earlier, but let's just reiterate it to be perfectly clear.

1. Why did you investigate TE?
2. Do you now think TE is town? Why or why not?

[geraintm]

Ok, back after weekend

liked CF's post 740, the part of mafia's postings about what he got at night

Porkens - someone later on asked the same question, role cup = scum why? not seen the role before in a game,s orry for beign thick
agree with ort being likely ok, glissa seems pretty good town role. still wish he hasnt come out with it

re:lynching time or mafia - if mafia turns out bad, can be serumed to be killed at some point in the future without being lynched

why did you want to myco me though porkens?

[Gremwell]

I think Role cop could easily be town in this setup, he would basically work as a metal detector without giving too much away, so we would need 2 investigations, one for metal and another for alignment.

also I am inclined to believe CF at this point, He could have easily fake claimed a cop report or something by now and no one could counter claim.

and also, why all the claiming/role fishing?

[Porkens]

I think Role cop could easily be town in this setup, he would basically work as a metal detector without giving too much away, so we would need 2 investigations, one for metal and another for alignment.

Do you think "Metal Fleet" means that person is steel? If so; then it's not really a role-cop.

[Gremwell]

good point

I doubt your pm said "you got rolecop" It probably had more flavor to it. Did it say role cop or are you just saying thats what you think it is?

[Porkens]

Porkens - someone later on asked the same question, role cup = scum why? not seen the role before in a game,s orry for beign thick

I'm not trying to make anyone feel ignorant, and I may be wrong. However, it's unusual, in my experience, for the town to have a role-cop.

First of all, a role-cop is more valuable to scum than town. It's in the town's best interest to determin alignment, so they can find the scum. It's in the scum's best interest to discover abilities, so they can murder people in the most effective way.

Moreover, in a game with such thick flavor as this (where the roles are almost unrecognizable), getting a report of "Triskelion, Metal Fleet," in which 'Metal Fleet' could be either the role, the alignment, or the metal status, I'm struggling to see how a role-cop would be valuable at all, to either side.

I think it's unreasonable to expect that the town 1. Give the Serum to a metal detector, 2. Have that metal detector check a suspects metal status, 3. Dip that suspect in mycosyth, and 4. Hang that suspect. Now we are talking 3 nights to kill one scum.

Looking at it again, I would say "Triskelion" is the Role, and "Metal-Fleet" is alignment/faction. Sadly, this does not agree with what MSSK has, himself, told us.

So I'm even more confused

[CF Riot]

As much as I don't trust TE, I would argue against that. Example: Wall-E.
Auriok Champion, town-aligned Hero. Champion is the name, town-aligned is the faction, and Hero is the role. For TE's info, Triskelion is the name, he claims town-aligned as his faction, and Metal Fleet is the role I would assume. I could see role cop going both ways in this game. I agree it is MUCH more helpful to scum than town.

SSK, I'd like to know. Was your result "Steel Fleet" or was it TE's entire PM that he quoted in thread? Or something else? And again, why did you inspect him? I know what I've said about claiming roles in thread, but I'm starting to think that for this situation, where you've already said what your role is and it's under suspicion, a PM quote is in order. If you can give a solid reason why you shouldn't without giving anything away, go ahead.

[Porkens]

For TE's info, Triskelion is the name, he claims town-aligned as his faction, and Metal Fleet is the role I would assume.

Yeah, I think you are right.

That's good, because it makes the world make more sense. I was getting hung up on "Triskelion" being more than just a name.

So, I guess at this point, I no longer see a lot of value in lynching TE straight away. MSSK has claimed role-cop, and that's what I was balancing my ideas on. Let's just wait and see how this pans out.

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1. SSK, I'd like to know. Was your result "Steel Fleet" or was it TE's entire PM that he quoted in thread? Or something else?

2. And again, why did you inspect him?

3. I know what I've said about claiming roles in thread, but I'm starting to think that for this situation, where you've already said what your role is and it's under suspicion, a PM quote is in order. If you can give a solid reason why you shouldn't without giving anything away, go ahead.

[Nicol Bolas]

For the record, you do not vote by saying "Lynch: Player".

Vote Count
ortolan(1): CF Riot
timeater(2): Seraphim, TonyMontana
Not Voting: ortolan, timeater, MafiaSSK, Porkens, Gremwell, geraintm, Illumina

Serum Count
CF Riot(1): ortolan
Not Seruming: timeater, CF Riot, MafiaSSK, Porkens, Gremwell, Seraphim, TonyMontana, geraintm, Illumina

Mycosynth Count
MafiaSSK(2): CF Riot, Porkens
Ortolan(1): Seraphim
Not Synthing: ortolan, timeater, MafiaSSK, Gremwell, TonyMontana, geraintm, Illumina

To establish majority: Six
Deadline: Monday, December 1st

[MafiaSSK]

I got role-cop from the serum. I do not wish to full claim at this moment.

Ok, so you confirm that you are a role-cop. So "Metal Fleet" is TE's role (but what the hell that means we still don't know). I think that was said earlier, but let's just reiterate it to be perfectly clear.

1. Why did you investigate TE?
2. Do you now think TE is town? Why or why not?

1. HE was the one who had the most votes on him to remove his metal. I believed this to mean that he was the second scummiest person so I investigated him.
2. Yes. His claim was confirmed and the role sounds town enough to me. I do not believe Natirasha would be bastardly enough to include a safeclaim in scum Pms.

[MafiaSSK]

good point

I doubt your pm said "you got rolecop" It probably had more flavor to it. Did it say role cop or are you just saying thats what you think it is?

It said so in the PM. The flavor was that I could see through the near limitless records that the Vedalkens have, and learn their profession and name.

[MafiaSSK]

SSK, I'd like to know. Was your result "Steel Fleet" or was it TE's entire PM that he quoted in thread? Or something else? And again, why did you inspect him? I know what I've said about claiming roles in thread, but I'm starting to think that for this situation, where you've already said what your role is and it's under suspicion, a PM quote is in order. If you can give a solid reason why you shouldn't without giving anything away, go ahead.

PM quoting of the result?

[CF Riot]

"Questions for MSSK

1. SSK, I'd like to know. Was your result "Steel Fleet" or was it TE's entire PM that he quoted in thread? Or something else?

2. I know what I've said about claiming roles in thread, but I'm starting to think that for this situation, where you've already said what your role is and it's under suspicion, a

PM quote is in order

. If you can give a solid reason why you shouldn't without giving anything away, go ahead.

3. Did you know that TE had quoted his role in thread before you investigated him?

Underlined is very important to me now. Role and Result if you don't mind.

[MafiaSSK]

Triskellion, Metal Fleet

[Porkens]

the role sounds town enough to me.

How so? To me, it sounds neutral, at best.

The flavor was that I could see through the near limitless records that the

Vedalkens

have, and learn their profession and name

Vedalkens, huh? Now I really want to see a full claim from you.

Unsynth
Vote: MafiaSSK

[MafiaSSK]

the role sounds town enough to me.

How so? To me, it sounds neutral, at best.

Just sounds town. I don't know the theme well at all.

The flavor was that I could see through the near limitless records that the

Vedalkens

have, and learn their profession and name

Vedalkens, huh? Now I really want to see a full claim from you.

Unsynth
Vote: MafiaSSK

Neurok Prodigy, Scryer.

[Porkens]

You said this earlier;

I got role-cop from the serum. I do not wish to full claim at this moment.

Why?

[geraintm]

I'm not trying to make anyone feel ignorant, and I may be wrong. However, it's unusual, in my experience, for the town to have a role-cop.

is it at all likely there might be a 3rd party? i don't know the story well enough, could there be?

mafia - why being to reluctent to post in what Mod has said??

[MafiaSSK]

You said this earlier;

I got role-cop from the serum. I do not wish to full claim at this moment.

Why?

Felt no pressure to do so.

[Porkens]

Felt no pressure to do so.

That seems strange to me, I mean; you

said

"I don't wish to claim further." If you really felt no pressure to do so, then why mention your intention not to claim?

Do you have any thougths on the game thus far, other than "he had the most votes so I rolecopped him"? Who do you think is scum and why? Can you go through and answer CF's questions (762), too?

is it at all likely there might be a 3rd party? i don't know the story well enough, could there be?

Why do you bring this idea up?

[MafiaSSK]

Felt no pressure to do so.

That seems strange to me, I mean; you

said

"I don't wish to claim further." If you really felt no pressure to do so, then why mention your intention not to claim?

Why is there a reason not to?

Do you have any thougths on the game thus far, other than "he had the most votes so I rolecopped him"? Who do you think is scum and why? Can you go through and answer CF's questions (762), too?

Currently getting neutral reads on most everyone.

[MafiaSSK]

3. Did you know that TE had quoted his role in thread before you investigated him?[/b]
.

No. I had not done a read through at that point.

[TonyMontana]

Hindsight is 20/20... we should've really revoked the serum once Tuber was replaced...

[Porkens]

I'm actually finding it highly informative.

And I say we lynch MafiaSSK.

[Diomedes]

And I say we lynch Porkens.

Vote: Porkens

Mycosynth: CF Riot