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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 11:46 am

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In post 598, Black wrote:
In post 596, HighPrincessErinys wrote: UNVOTE: Lorne Malvo
Thinking it can semi-safely write off Lorne as just being a goofball townie here now that he's given SOME form of explanation to his actions. Its on the fence about if it wants to slap even a pressure vote onto Gimli because his push is bad but his persistence is intriguing and this one feels like even followers would have more self-preservation than to keep pushing a wagon that is teetering on the edge of backfiring and killing them.
Well even if I'm wrong about Lorne at least I got him to do something

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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:07 pm

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Cmon Gimli just let a man have anopinion
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:24 pm

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In post 417, KawaiiKame wrote:
In post 409, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 385, Black wrote: Do we really think kawaii is Kira because they said they would act a certain way as Kira and then acted that way? That just doesn't seem like something scum would do. To assume Kawaii is Kira we have to assume they would just out themselves D1 for no reason

Also Kokichi brought up a Gimli meta analysis that everyone just overlooked. Gimli is definitely acting more confident in his reads this game and it's not just exclusive to the Kokichi read. All of his reads have felt definitive. Just feels weird
I'm not voting Kawaii because I'm sheeping their own read on themselves, I'm voting Kawaii because the content they have posted has felt awkward and I don't like how little they've engaged with anyone.
That's a completely valid reason to be voting me, I failed to engage with anyone up into this point
With the last question you asked, I wanted to know how Black knew the Kira skill mechanic
As to why I'm disengaged with this game, this is intentional, I want people to think I'm Kira to see how Kira/followers react to me, though I was tempted to ask why Black is 0% follower with Gimli being 100% town, I held back to attempt this gambit

It's possible followers exist in Kokichi/HPE, though I'm not finding saying I should not be eliminated to be sufficient evidence, it doesn't make total sense to defend me as followers if their genuine belief is I am town
I'm not sure I buy you intentionally trying to look like Kira.
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:27 pm

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In post 429, Black wrote:
In post 426, Gimli wrote: I started getting heat by black after I was set with the kawaii flip and whatnot.
That's incorrect. I was already suspicious of you in and
I also think it's funny that koki is saying people are sheeping me when everyone that's scumreading kawaii is doing so independently, clearly. it's just a blatantly scum play so far and defending it from the angle of 'gimli is sus' doesn't feel right.
Vander has been sheeping you all game and the vote on kawaii is no different. I don't think kawaii is acting scummy. They weren't posting in the newbie game you linked while they were lurking here so to me that suggests they were busy this weekend. The rest of the points against kawaii are weak imo
I'm not sheeping Gimli, I just have agreed with basically everything he's said which is why I'm townreading him.
I'm also pretty sure I voted Kawaii before anyone was scumreading them.
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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:27 pm

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In post 429, Black wrote:
In post 426, Gimli wrote: I started getting heat by black after I was set with the kawaii flip and whatnot.
That's incorrect. I was already suspicious of you in and
I also think it's funny that koki is saying people are sheeping me when everyone that's scumreading kawaii is doing so independently, clearly. it's just a blatantly scum play so far and defending it from the angle of 'gimli is sus' doesn't feel right.
Vander has been sheeping you all game and the vote on kawaii is no different. I don't think kawaii is acting scummy. They weren't posting in the newbie game you linked while they were lurking here so to me that suggests they were busy this weekend. The rest of the points against kawaii are weak imo
Also, if you don't think Kawaii is acting scummy, what do you think of them saying they're intentionally trying to look like Kira?
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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:28 pm

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In post 432, Gimli wrote: if i'm detective or assistant then I still want props from getting the rest of it right:

1. Detective - mala
2. Assistant - STD
3. Taskforce Member - vander
4. Taskforce Member - meg
5. Taskforce Member - gimli
6. Taskforce Member - lorne
7. Taskforce Member - HPE
8. Kira Follower - black
9. Kira Follower - kokichi
10. Kira - kawaii
I strongly believe black is not a follower, I think the initial post about not understanding what followers know was genuine.
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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:30 pm

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In post 604, Vanderscamp wrote: Also, if you don't think Kawaii is acting scummy, what do you think of them saying they're intentionally trying to look like Kira?
I don't buy it either. At the time of that post I didn't even realize kawaii had said it
I scumread Alianna.

ALL HAIL THE SCUM QUEEN!
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:39 pm

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In post 461, Black wrote: I was one of your strongest TRs. Wild how me saying I don't think kawaii is Kira can completely flip that. Your tunnel is really long with no end in sight
I agree with this btw, Gimli flipping on you for you defending Kawaii is the only thing I really haven't liked from him this game, it feels like a really level 1 read.
I don't care about the detective speculation post.
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:40 pm

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In post 464, Black wrote: You think Kira and followers would feel this bold to be the only people on a Gimli wagon? Also it won't stop when you flip Kawaii because we won't know what his alignment is. Once you flip him you will gun for me and Kokichi next. Your tunnel will last until the end of the game and by that point you will have mislimmed enough to win
Why are you convinced Kawaii isn't Kira?
Like Gimli can be wrong about you with Kawaii being Kira and the game ending.
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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:45 pm

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In post 608, Vanderscamp wrote: Why are you convinced Kawaii isn't Kira?
Like Gimli can be wrong about you with Kawaii being Kira and the game ending.
I didn't see anything that pointed to kawaii being Kira. I didn't like the case and how it was pushed. I realize I could be wrong though
I scumread Alianna.

ALL HAIL THE SCUM QUEEN!
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:45 pm

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In post 526, Kokichi Oma wrote: Mostly aimed at StD since he has a history of quick hammering.
Grow up
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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:47 pm

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StD! How nice of you to join us! Say, while you're here, mind participating in the game you have posted in since post #370? Maybe, give us your thoughts on the wagons at play?
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:51 pm

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I have an appointment but after I can
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:52 pm

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In post 500, Black wrote:
In post 56, Lorne Malvo wrote: Kira will play like a normal person, just hang the followers, read their ISO and hang Kira later, it's not that complicated
In post 172, Lorne Malvo wrote: I want to hang Kira day 5 so we get maximum playing time
Wanting to hunt followers and keep Kira around is weird
These posts are fine imo
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:52 pm

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370 was also literally yesterday
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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 12:58 pm

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In post 577, Lorne Malvo wrote:
In post 575, MegAzumarill wrote: Counterpoint: Lorne is town

Source: Trust me
Honestly I think this kind of reasoning is much more towny than people trying to come up with some bullshit and put some mafia terms in it lol
I agree haha
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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:10 pm

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I think we should just stay the course on Kawaii, I ultimately just don't really believe that trying to act scummy was a play.
If it were a play I would have expected some kind of deeper analysis of what reactions Kawaii got from it, but that didn't happen.
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:24 pm

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In post 605, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 432, Gimli wrote: if i'm detective or assistant then I still want props from getting the rest of it right:

1. Detective - mala
2. Assistant - STD
3. Taskforce Member - vander
4. Taskforce Member - meg
5. Taskforce Member - gimli
6. Taskforce Member - lorne
7. Taskforce Member - HPE
8. Kira Follower - black
9. Kira Follower - kokichi
10. Kira - kawaii
I strongly believe black is not a follower, I think the initial post about not understanding what followers know was genuine.
ur probably right

im mad at myself for not putting HPE there instead of black
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:25 pm

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In post 616, Vanderscamp wrote: I think we should just stay the course on Kawaii, I ultimately just don't really believe that trying to act scummy was a play.
If it were a play I would have expected some kind of deeper analysis of what reactions Kawaii got from it, but that didn't happen.
agree w this and everything else vander posted rn (including criticism of my bad plays)
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:25 pm

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In post 610, Save The Dragons wrote:
In post 526, Kokichi Oma wrote: Mostly aimed at StD since he has a history of quick hammering.
Grow up
Sure, only for you though

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How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:26 pm

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In post 611, HighPrincessErinys wrote: StD! How nice of you to join us! Say, while you're here, mind participating in the game you have posted in since post #370? Maybe, give us your thoughts on the wagons at play?
What are your thoughts on Kawaii/Gimli?
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:29 pm

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In post 617, Gimli wrote:
In post 605, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 432, Gimli wrote: if i'm detective or assistant then I still want props from getting the rest of it right:

1. Detective - mala
2. Assistant - STD
3. Taskforce Member - vander
4. Taskforce Member - meg
5. Taskforce Member - gimli
6. Taskforce Member - lorne
7. Taskforce Member - HPE
8. Kira Follower - black
9. Kira Follower - kokichi
10. Kira - kawaii
I strongly believe black is not a follower, I think the initial post about not understanding what followers know was genuine.
ur probably right

im mad at myself for not putting HPE there instead of black
I've been trying to get you to look at HPE forever and now all of a sudden you want to. When i don't want to vote HPE anymore
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:31 pm

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Is it weird that I disagree with all of Vander's takes but I think he's town just cause of the way he's going about them.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:35 pm

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In post 617, Gimli wrote:
In post 605, Vanderscamp wrote:
In post 432, Gimli wrote: if i'm detective or assistant then I still want props from getting the rest of it right:

1. Detective - mala
2. Assistant - STD
3. Taskforce Member - vander
4. Taskforce Member - meg
5. Taskforce Member - gimli
6. Taskforce Member - lorne
7. Taskforce Member - HPE
8. Kira Follower - black
9. Kira Follower - kokichi
10. Kira - kawaii
I strongly believe black is not a follower, I think the initial post about not understanding what followers know was genuine.
ur probably right

im mad at myself for not putting HPE there instead of black
What makes you suddenly think me a follower? Because this one won't vote Kawaii with you?
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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:38 pm

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In post 623, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
What makes you suddenly think me a follower? Because this one won't vote Kawaii with you?
yeah you're weird about kawaii

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