Hollow Knight Mafia [game over]

[Gimli]

you know what's really funny? there's nothing about multitasking in my role PM! it doesn't state anywhere that my nail could be used alongside someone else's abilities. all it implies is that my nail needs to be used that following night by the player I'm giving it to.

[Gimli]

@aristeia I understand when you had my nail you could no longer multitask, but when you received the nail was it stated by the mod that you could multitask it? I wanna know if this is a nail feature or a furtive's role feature.

[Aristeia]

the nail itself is multitasking

[Gimli]

I see, well that makes sense

[Firebringer]

Morning/Afternoon/W/e it is wherever u all are.
Anyone have anything to do or say.

FireR?
Ari?
mr Klick?

[Firebringer]

Considering he was widely townread i don't see why he wouldn't have performed kill over Shea.
So unlikely group scum.

well I think the reason they had Cakes perform the night 1 kill was because they thought nobody would suspect there'd be two scum in the hood - that's why I tracked Cakes because I thought if he was scum he was likely to make the kill because of that logic.

Once they get burned by that logic backfiring in their face, I think they are worried I might track in the hood again and then decided to send tsq instead.

i think they had cakez do it because he was widely townread and 1 of hood mates got burned yes, but he was also multitasking.

we are going to argue that scum would think town u would check the final hood mate over Shea. I don't know where u were with shea after Cakez flip, but i assume u werne't with Klick scum or anywhere close with that. Klick would have been obvious choice and not to mention we have to assume Klick scum has Multitask because theres still announcementsi n game with peta death.

i know shea role is useless to scum basically, but i still think Klick is wiser move to make kill after those 2 dead. In fact if we are going to argue who was better to make kill Klick or Cakez night 1, i would probably say Klick. Who suspects him was going to target him with investigation?

so i disagree with ur analysis on this but we should focus on day play i guess.

[Datisi]

VOTE COUNT 6.07

WITH 7 VOTES IN PLAY, IT TAKES 4 TO MAKE A DECISION. DAY 6 ENDS IN (expired on 2023-03-06 15:45:00).

execution

FIREBRINGER [2]:

furtiveglance, Gimli

MORNING TWEET [1]:

Firebringer

NOT VOTING [4]:

Aristeia, fireisredsir, Klick, Morning Tweet

mod notes

All vote counters have been borked by the newest update, so please let me know if there are mistakes in the VC.
This is a mod note.

[Datisi]

Prodding Klick.

[Klick]

Oops
I'm a bit checked out here I feel like most of the mental work has been done at this point

I both think the last scum is Firebringer and feel like eliminating him today is probably poor play

There's basically zero chance that Aristeia or furtive are scum
Gimli doesn't feel like scum at all today?
MT has felt like town today but not to a level where I'd outright clear her
And then fireisredsir has still not really done anything that makes me think he couldn't be scum but he also hasn't had a huge opportunity to

I'd vote Firebringer>fireisred>MT at the moment without considering roles
It feels bad to vote people that I don't think are scum for mechanical purposes tho
So I'm not sure what I want to do

[Aristeia]

what do tweet & fireisred want?

[Firebringer]

ari just ignores my demands.
How rude of her.

[Morning Tweet]

Lim me then lim Firebringer

let's say that Ari dies and Klick gets inno'ed by Firebringer

Furtive - town
Klick - innoed
fireisred - innoed
Gimli - ?
Firebringer - ?

That's auto assuming just furtive town. So scum has to no kill I assume.


no one gets killed so firebringer can't investigate

Ari - town
furtive - town
fireisred- innoed
Klick - ?
Gimli - ?
Fire - ?

say you lim Klick. scum still doesn't kill.

Ari - town
furtive - town
fireisred- innoed
Gimli - ?
Fire - ?

You can just keep executing the rest of the game, pretty sure

So it doesnt become optimal to kill Fire until at the end

But Fire individually seems the most likely to me

Maybe Fire can do something to make him win when if he buys himself enough time with this? Very hard to explain the WIM of everyone here besides ari/fireisred, it seems unwinnable for one of us. He coul dhave a really cool trick or something.

I really don't think it's Klick or Gimli, I think it kinda has to be Fire, I might favour outright elimming firebringer. If he's town we'd open the door to losing but not a lot of other clear contradictions in the setup

If you vote out me in favour of keeping Firebringer's claim alive, the same reasoning can be extended to klick and Gimli also being executed because scum will not be able to kill anyone the following nights without being boxed in as far as i can tell. So then it'd just be Firebringer, furtive, Ari, and fireisred. You could then lastly vote out Fire assuming he hasn't won the game from a mystery condition or something else i havent considered

[Morning Tweet]

what do tweet & fireisred want?

Lim me->Gimli->Klick-Firebringer (scum can't kill probably)

OR

lim firebringer right now (he might be playing to survive to Xylo for mystery reason, which would explain why his claim mechanically makes him only get eliminated at Xylo. But it's an inherent risk)

Idrk which is better

[furtiveglance]

I want to play the actual game of Mafia and vote out my scumread

Firebringer's role claim doesn't make sense in this setup or just in general

[Aristeia]

I'm sorry Firebringer what did you want?

[furtiveglance]

Aristeia what are you thinking at the moment

[Aristeia]

whether I should stop procrastinating and actually re-read the game

[Firebringer]

MT,
Go into why u don't think its Klick or Gimli.
Everything else u just said is basically stuff we know and is annoying to hear repeated.
Ignore mechanics focus gameplay.

[Aristeia]

Gimli:

Townie stuff:

Early pressure on VPB d1261 263 1147 1157

Interaction with SirCakes 1161 <actually everyone on this wagon has flipped town – only myself and Klick are left alive
1475 1476 – fight with Cakes about there being scum on his wagon doesn’t feel like theatre.

It’s weird for a player to tunnel one scumteammate[vpb] while saying like the other two teammates are town?[sircakes, lycanfire] which is what gimli did during d1.

didn't see anything really weird in his thought process.

Also feels like he's very willing to self-sacrifice himself multiple times throughout the game and is impatient to get this over which feels like what town!gimli did in our micro that just finished.

I don't think he's that likely to be last scum.

scummy stuff:

he is the last person on the bottom row of CSF's last readlist that is un-flipped.

nightkills conveniently restarted after he ran out of nails.

[Aristeia]

if we do sort by post count is it just Tweetie

[Aristeia]

she has the same number of posts as Misty and Misty's been dead for 2 weeks

[furtiveglance]

if we do sort by post count is it just Tweetie

How do you explain Fireisredsir's inno check in that case?

[Firebringer]

if we do sort by post count is it just Tweetie

How do you explain Fireisredsir's inno check in that case?

Traitor
We been over this a dozen times.

[furtiveglance]

Meh...Traitor inheriting the nightkill isn't something I've seen before.

[Gimli]

I want to play the actual game of Mafia and vote out my scumread

Firebringer's role claim doesn't make sense in this setup or just in general

this is where I'm at

everybody thinks it's firebringer

the game died and no one can come up with a better flip

I have no intention of moving my vote to klick at this point, maybe MT? but I still like her posting this gameday and she can't be groupscum