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VC 1-X

Gimli (3 = E-2):

Aristeia, Datisi, Wavelength

Aristeia (3 = E-2):

Gimli, mykonian, Klick

Klick (1):

Andante

Datisi (1):

Alisae

Not Voting (1):

Aureal

With 9 alive, it takes 5 for an execution.

Deadline:

(expired on 2023-02-26 00:51:00)

Mod notes:

• I'm counting by hand, let me know if there is anything wrong.
  
• The combined mod ISO can be found here.

[Aristeia]

actually your scumread of me is even worse than that

you are saying that you can see why I would think Myko/Herta are aligned as a townie. But ari is scum anyway because I said so

[Aristeia]

your safe stances and FAKE THOUGHTS

more catchphrases

what are my "safe stances"?

what are my "fake thoughts"?

[Gimli]

actually your scumread of me is even worse than that

you are saying that you can see why I would think Myko/Herta are aligned as a townie. But ari is scum anyway because I said so

and now you're grabbing at something from the latter parts of my catch up, when I was simultaneously seeing where you could come from in these pages and stated that ITT at least three times, to then beat me up with it with 'oh but you think im scum' when clearly I'm taking that into account in my reads. do I have to think you wouldn't make a svs pair that makes sense as scum? is that a hard thing for you to post as scum?

[Gimli]

you're trying to clutter the thread now, I'm not participating in it.

[Wavelength]

Gimli, would you say that the method of catchup you did this game is standard for you?

(If yes, can you link some rep in games for me so I don't have to hunt for them myself?)

[Gimli]

you really don't need to meta read me. and yes this is what I do everygame as town and as scum. I catch up I do my things. IDK how metadiving me helps with that sort of thing. I'm not catching up anymore, I'm here, I'm exceedingly loud and just figure what that means wrt my alignment.

I bet aureal will come here later on with my scumgame where I did this exact same type of catch up posts, although ofc much worse than that because I was scum and here I'm town.

[Gimli]

but wave I want you to express clearly why you think I'm scummy. I don't think you did that yet, even though you seem so sure about it.

[Klick]

what are your current reads and why is gimli town

I totally buy into Gimli's read and perception of the game being a town one
I'm not going to say Gimli can't be faking his current take on the game, but if he is he's putting a lot of effort into making it look genuine AND he's sending the gamestate in a direction that I already think is largely accurate and so I'm very happy to give him a pass and a sheep vote for the moment

TOWN
Wavelength
Aureal
Gimli

LEANING TOWN
mykonian

2/4 SCUM
Aristeia
Alisae
Datisi
Andante

[Aristeia]

you're trying to clutter the thread now, I'm not participating in it.

i am not trying to clutter the thread

I am incredibly precise about exactly what I am asking from you and why i want you to answer

you have continued to obfuscate and dodge with catchphrases that are designed to frame the argument without actually producing any substance.

[Aristeia]

what are your current reads and why is gimli town

I totally buy into Gimli's read and perception of the game being a town one
I'm not going to say Gimli can't be faking his current take on the game, but if he is he's putting a lot of effort into making it look genuine AND he's sending the gamestate in a direction that I already think is largely accurate and so I'm very happy to give him a pass and a sheep vote for the moment

TOWN
Wavelength
Aureal
Gimli

LEANING TOWN
mykonian

2/4 SCUM
Aristeia
Alisae
Datisi
Andante

hardomgusing his primary pusher is literally the easiest move for a scum under pressure to do.

[Aristeia]

saying gimli is town because i think he is pushing the game in a direction i think is accurate is literally saying nothing

[Klick]

what are your current reads and why is gimli town

I totally buy into Gimli's read and perception of the game being a town one
I'm not going to say Gimli can't be faking his current take on the game, but if he is he's putting a lot of effort into making it look genuine AND he's sending the gamestate in a direction that I already think is largely accurate and so I'm very happy to give him a pass and a sheep vote for the moment

TOWN
Wavelength
Aureal
Gimli

LEANING TOWN
mykonian

2/4 SCUM
Aristeia
Alisae
Datisi
Andante

hardomgusing his primary pusher is literally the easiest move for a scum under pressure to do.

Okay good thing that's not all he's doing

[Aristeia]

what else is he doing again

[Klick]

Solving

[Aristeia]

ok which piece of his solving do you think comes exclusively from town him

[Klick]

It's a body of work

[Aristeia]

VOTE: klick

[Aristeia]

your read feels fake

[Klick]

Gimli fwiw out of Ari/Andante I have a slightly stronger opinion on Andante being a potential wolf
I'm fine with being on Aristeia regardless but if you're feeling similarly about both of them then Andante's my personal preference

[Wavelength]

I asked the question because you asked me why I thought you were scummy, and one of the reasons was that your method of catching up: the spoiler tags for a page by page catch up, where you grabbed lots and lots of quotes - seemed performative in nature especially given the size of the game at this point. I wanted to double check that it was not just a play style thing.

Because I had the time, and did not to actually wait for your response, I went and scanned through your rep in games already. I did not see that style of catch up in any game actually, although to be fair most of them were repping in much later, I did find one where you came in on page 10 of day 1 (compared to page 16 of Day 1 this game), and you responded to an average of less then 1 post per page

Spoiler:

1 quote on page 1

0 quotes on page 2

1 quote on page 3

2 quotes on page 4

0 quotes on page 5

0 quotes on page 6

1 quote on page 7

0 quotes on page 8

0 quotes on page 9

Compared to this game, where during your catch up, you grabbed an average of 9 posts per page

So yeah, your catch up looked very performative. Designed to look like a townie with lots of thoughts about the game vs the things that town you would have actually gravitated toward.

[Aristeia]

"gimli is town because he is pushing in a good direction" is circular logic

"gimlis solving is townie but i cant name a townie thing about it" is handwaving shortcut that feels informed about his alignment without any critical thought

lastly none of this implies I am mafia so your vote makes very little sense to me

[Klick]

your read feels fake

I've put a level of depth into it that's appropriate for the 15ish minutes I've had to skim since getting off work
I don't think I'm wrong though

[Aristeia]

i didnt say you were wrong about gimlis alignment

i said your read feels like one that scum makes about a townie because you have tmi

[Klick]

I know I'm thinking critically and I can show that in my own time
I don't trust your motives for wanting me to expand so I'm deliberately being a bit cagey about it
I know that's frustrating to deal with but I think I'll get something out of it!