Open 873: PYP: Anime Music & Memes - Game Over!

[Bell]

I think instead of shaking people down I'm just going to watch and wait atm. I really want to but I can't rationalize a good reason to do so.

[Dunnstral]

Make yourself comfortable Bell

[unwnd]

Just poking my head back in to say I'm willing to kill marci

[unwnd]

I'm down to be wrong if that's what people want

[fferyllt]

Who would you elim if the choice was all yours, unwnd?

[Dunnstral]

If Unwnd wants to be wrong I don't want to be right

[Firebringer]

pretty dead right now.
Whats everyone up to right now

[Bell]

Finishing up Wrath of the righteous. Working on Homework. Ruminating about the worst wednesday to end all wednesdays.

[marcistar]

i think peta/scummystral is never a thing here too ; )

What are your reasons?

i think its dumb 4 2 scum to be tunneled on the same townie. its not a cute look.
i dont think its as dumb for 1 scum to be though but idfk need to think deeply one day

[petapan]

i think peta/scummystral is never a thing here too ; )

What are your reasons?

i think its dumb 4 2 scum to be tunneled on the same townie. its not a cute look.
i dont think its as dumb for 1 scum to be though but idfk need to think deeply one day

you have seen this happen before in a game so this comes across as overly simplistic thinking on your part

and do you have an actual reason for dunnstral being scum aside from him pushing you?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

i think peta/scummystral is never a thing here too ; )

What are your reasons?

i think its dumb 4 2 scum to be tunneled on the same townie. its not a cute look.
i dont think its as dumb for 1 scum to be though but idfk need to think deeply one day

you have seen this happen before in a game so this comes across as overly simplistic thinking on your part

and do you have an actual reason for dunnstral being scum aside from him pushing you?

What game and how recently?

[petapan]

the thing game i ran, scum tripled up their votes on the same townie day 1 in a desperate attempt to not lose. i thought it was on her slot but it turns out it was a different one.

granted she may outright not remember it given how little attention she paid to the game, it's a sign of lazy thinking not necessarily scum thinking but it all feels half-baked


regardless i'm okay with kicking that can down the road one more day. i want firebringer to claim. it super sucks if the slot is town and rh9 nuked it for no good reason but i cannot ever see it getting cleared now short of a cop report

[Lady Lambdadelta]

the thing game i ran, scum tripled up their votes on the same townie day 1 in a desperate attempt to not lose. i thought it was on her slot but it turns out it was a different one.

granted she may outright not remember it given how little attention she paid to the game, it's a sign of lazy thinking not necessarily scum thinking but it all feels half-baked


regardless i'm okay with kicking that can down the road one more day. i want firebringer to claim. it super sucks if the slot is town and rh9 nuked it for no good reason but i cannot ever see it getting cleared now short of a cop report

did you think Taly was town?

[petapan]

no, and i had doubts on the read back on day 1, verifiably

[petapan]

Spoiler:

good take, unwnd

now we actually gotta sleep, fr now

oh

by the way bell.... VOTE: Bell goodnight

<3

vicky

VOTE: Taly

FOS: NOTTY.

*Petapan numbers speculation*
I just picked 2 to the 10th power.

I also scumread notty without elaborating

Your response to Taly sucked.

You called them boring instead of obvious frozen scum.

good take, unwnd

now we actually gotta sleep, fr now

oh

by the way bell.... VOTE: Bell goodnight

<3

vicky

They should just be bullshit based on your innocence right

Stake your position or something

i think you misunderstand

we're not entertaining other people's reads

because

they're true, we're discerning the motivation despite internal dissonance

interesting that the two most suspected slots were also the first slots to have semi-serious convo

vicky

I feel like if this were true you wouldn't have voted me without asking me anything.

From what I understand, you baited us into pushing you so you could

justify

your read.

You doubtcasting both

Notty

and our slot when we had resolved a read on the other is disingenuous.

I like Vicky's vote.

-Gaia +Taly

Sure.
Twice I have caught scum who called their partners boring instead of scum. Simple, boring, I know. It's just honest to goodness excuse not to put fire on them. I Also find it slightly weird that Notty put that much effort into controlling for a player's idiosyncracies this early in the game. Also they keep trying to manipulate people's feelings to get off of them and that rubs me bad. *Thumbs down*

Last game I was in Taly was either meltdowning or efforting.

I think I just carry my suspicions from game to game without any reason or logic.

I don't scum read Marci, I just don't town read them. They're always kind of weird, fake, and survivory when they play mafia. So it's pretty hard to read them.

I don't like that you've framed Taly has meltdowning/distressed as opposed to seeking information when there wasn't any present through reaction testing.

It's poor faith, Bell.

Specifically in the statement after the bolded, where you acknowledged that this is a bias you hold against him.

- Gaia

Hmmmm, we still have reservations with

Bell

but this vote is feeling like a vanity at this point.

VOTE: Ydrasse -

Yume's (yes, ours)

itching for a weighted wagon.

So far our system agreed on two townreads;

peta

and

notty

, and that's a LOT more work than it sounds lmao



we gotta sleep, night

Taly

home

VOTE: unwnd

really dont vibe with the focus on luke --> PoE dunn/dragons/luke --> luke/dragons TvS pipeline

and my system mates may be be satisfied with the "i dont get you so i wont engage with you" but im not.

vicky

this is a collection of every vote/scumread taly had day 1 and the sum total is underwhelmig to say the least. i thought the bell suspicion looked genuine at the time but in hindsight it's somewhat defensive. i didn't get the sense at any real point that taly had a push she believed in and i think that fits a certain framework of expected scum play where she says things that sound reasonable but doesn't really push anywhere, and if town i'd expect a little more conviction, some feeling toward a scumread.

that lingering suspicion was partially why i pressured rh9 immediately on entry but also i just really didn't like his posts

[fferyllt]

I'm not going to be around much, if any, until tonight, and you may get ffery-under-the-influence then.

notsci, not really expecting to see much of you today because handegg. The topic I want to discuss is Dunn and his reaction to GreyICE's guilty seen through the lens of the Isekai track guilty. The interactions started here.

LLD was in this game too, and may have thoughts. though I'm not sure this is a data channel that she really uses.

[petapan]

i also think the way he spoke about marci/his progression on the slot was nonsencial

Spoiler: I liked Marci's reaction to my vote

Luke

, what do you think about the townvibes you're getting?

Do you mean, how do I feel about the people who said they think I am town?

It is early enough that I am assuming all reads are pretty weak.

I was a little surprised to see LLD's read on me as it happened, because she had not interacted with me at all, so my gut reaction to LLD's post was to ask why, before remembering that she never explains her town reads, so deleted the post lol. I don't really have a read on LLD yet

Notty and I had enough interactions with our Super Secret Hood that I could understand an early read on me, and I would call him somewhat townie too. I liked that his first read also turned out to be Marci.

I liked

Marci's

reaction to my vote, it wasn't defensive in any form.

I didn't get the same impression as

LLD

saying

Ydra

was awkward, but for

Ydra

to admit that it was seemed sincere.

UNVOTE:

bear in mind, this was during RVS. the actual vote in question:

Spoiler:

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VOTE: marcistar

I AGREE

VOTE: MARCISTAR

I've indoctrinated someone already!

Let's pivot to a rando

I spin the wheel, and then we HURT:

this feels like it's assigning way too much weight to a trivial interaction - why should marci feel remotely pressured by that vote?

then we get taly putting this vague generalized suspicion/shade of marci but not really pressuring her and putting up some dichotomy she doesn't do much with:

Spoiler:

Marci

had a good beginning vibe and has fallen into the thread's noise to us. This is also a note reminder for us to look at

Ydra's

suspicion on

Marci

.

why do i still see kingtroll hate wtf

floor is

all

yours to WK

Marci your ISO is giving stall vibes

Hmm

I don't know either of them enough to discern the significance. But it is a good note to ISO check there if there is time to deep dive.

LLD/Ceph
Marci/Ydra
Luke/unwnd/Dragons

Peta in loose association to any of these groups

Taly

Marci/Ydra

because there are solid reasons to sus

Ydra

but

Ydra

also sus'es

Marci

who is also pretty suspected, which is worth discerning

this one taken outside the spoilers because it's weirdly bare of actual commentary on marci's alignment, just that she's "pretty suspected"

oh and we're not limming

marci

, D1 PR claims always need a pass

hmmm

not track list: Luke, Bell, Peta, Notty

UNVOTE:

why does

marci

still have votes

unwnd

, you mentioned uncertainty in trust my slot?

i dont have a reply to the passivity claim, just been the mood of the week. but the conviction in questioning your intentions has faded.

ceph/ydra/notty

expressed concern or hesitation with the track list, does that make you pause?

and then suddenly she claims and it's full-on defense beause "day 1 pr claimsalways get a pass" even though it was already known to everyone that marci was a PR before that

but he said nothing about it and vaguely shaded her before the claim

doesn't make sense as an organic thought process

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm not going to be around much, if any, until tonight, and you may get ffery-under-the-influence then.

notsci, not really expecting to see much of you today because handegg. The topic I want to discuss is Dunn and his reaction to GreyICE's guilty seen through the lens of the Isekai track guilty. The interactions started here.

LLD was in this game too, and may have thoughts. though I'm not sure this is a data channel that she really uses.

thinking about my game methods as data channels makes me feel kinda funky

yeah i don't usually return to games for meta observation but if you want my Eyes on it i'll do it.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

GreyIce has been prodded

[fferyllt]

I'm not going to be around much, if any, until tonight, and you may get ffery-under-the-influence then.

notsci, not really expecting to see much of you today because handegg. The topic I want to discuss is Dunn and his reaction to GreyICE's guilty seen through the lens of the Isekai track guilty. The interactions started here.

LLD was in this game too, and may have thoughts. though I'm not sure this is a data channel that she really uses.

thinking about my game methods as data channels makes me feel kinda funky

yeah i don't usually return to games for meta observation but if you want my Eyes on it i'll do it.

I kinda do. I feel like it would be a good reality check because you focus on different data channels. But, not if you don't really feel like doing it.

notsci's meta analysis also has a different focus than mine, usually.

[GreyICE]

Yes, yes, I'm here.

What is this?


Anyway, will read and post, I was having an enjoying weekend until mafia pulled me back in. Getting drunk with my wife, moving her stuff around, watching bad TV, playing bad board games, then the mafia squad arrived.

[petapan]

oh wow that's

a bug that should probably get fixed

[Lady Lambdadelta]

uh....

the moderation team of mafiascum needs to be informed about this

[petapan]

i don't think it actually spoils anything AI luckily, just that ffery has a notes PT, but definitely something that could go very awry

[fferyllt]

Interesting.

In the meanwhile I suggest not quoting someone's post in your notes.