Open 873: PYP: Anime Music & Memes - Game Over!

[unwnd]

Yes taly I am ignoring you but it's not to discredit it's like 'wtf do I do with you'

[Dunnstral]

I'm chewing on Dunnstral's selectivity, but I'm not going to do anything with it.

I'm not sure what you're referring to

[Cephrir]

i think it is fair to suggest that you've interacted with a very small fraction of the game's content and the things you choose to be interested in are somewhat surprising in a void

[Dunnstral]

We were down for 5 minutes

How telling do you think activity is? I've always been of opinion a fraction of townies will make up the present conversation, and that finding scum is sort of sifting through that. I think it's especially rare these days for scum to be at the forefront, as scum behavior has mostly trended with just trying to blend in. When a scum does have a high postcount, it's out of necessity. Or plainly-- they think it's something they could be townread for. Nobody who is active is really pinging me for 'necessity' but I also wouldn't say that I feel entirely comfortable. I'm just a natural skeptic.

FWIW I'm not just alluding to you in coded language it's just what I think about. I think this game in particular I can give a bit more heady analysis for the things you were talking about. I'm around friends and maybe to them a lot of that is just 'unwnd doing unwnd things'

I think players ebb and flow on activity and I'm less into reading them on how active they are but what they do with their time? If they're active a lot, and fuck around a lot but then pull out reads and do shit, it feels like they're progressing the game state. It's not different to someone who is barely around, but when they post they similarly progress the game state.

I think activity is a good way to look at see if people are ducking away from hard conversations and hoping things blows over but again that's like... intentful action and "why is X doing Y" which is... pretty standard?

Where does this put notty then? I mentioned it earlier that I am not his defender but to me he is the most present thing I can think of in terms of activity and being talked about

From my PoV, I voted Notty under cover of a joke about the Whopperx4 stuff to apply some pressure, and it spawned a wagon I wasn't even really a part of, but was really grateful for, because it let me see some of the Ceph v Notty stuff that Notty was deflecting and Ceph was playing coy/cheeky about in the limelight.

What I think is that Notty played this very poorly if they are scum. They did very little to prevent this pressure from growing, the reactions were not great and they have to know it, and I had half a mind to come in today and reinforce my vote with extra pressure and see if I couldn't get notty to crack, because it's either an act to be too scummy to be scum or it's notty playing shit off and I was wondering if I could possibly differentiate.

But my first crack at Notty this morning, the one where I made Notty go through his reads? Having scum reads on ONLY people on his wagon and going "huh that's kinda bad" but posting it anyway fit with the same duality I was afraid of. It's either intentional on Notty's part, or it's just town.

And I was leaning possibly intentional until I literaly decided "huh that bell post was really weird lemme poke at Bell too" and Notty had the EXACT same post and thought as me. I got ninja'd by Notty while making my bell question and grabbing quotes.

So to me, at this point, that felt like a townie solving attempt, because I followed that same path, which leads me to think Notty is being genuine over an act, which leaves me at Notty town for the moment.

OK, I find this convincing

[Lukewarm]

also

luke

, my eyes glaze over when i read most of your posts, give me a TL;DR of your POV rn

taly

Why hello and how do you do too.

To be fair, I kinda end up skipping past most of your posts too, because I don't really find your posting style all that easy to engage with most of the time :/

My PoV of this game is kinda skewed by not liking getting pressured early, I find it hard to walk away when people really really think that I am scum, because I have an unstoppable desire to prove to them that they are wrong, and to point out why the reasons they think I am scum are wrong. And it warps my perspective, and now I need to stop doing that this game I think. I kinda want to do a reset, which was my plan with doing a reads list once I am caught up.

Outside of that, I spend some time out of thread wondering if I was going to end up a bartering chip used by LLD to gain thread control or not.

I was going to do isos before I did a reads list but, a *vibes* reads that I have atm:

I still think that Notty is town. I still think that unwnd is town. I still think that Marci is town, but that read is weakening because she seems to have largely faded into the back ground of the thread after the opening bits of the game

I kinda liked that Ydra's reads list was unique at least, but I also liked her response. I will also say that I *think* that this really low energy from her is more likely to come from her as town, just because I think she has been town every time I have encountered this flavor of Ydra (but I also have not done any homework on that)

-Bell I was leaning scum more for lack of slots proded, because he seemed to be playing it safe by almost exclusively poking at you and Notty, but even notty was wrapped up in a partner read with you -- but then i liked that he seemed to have a fairly similar reaction to LLD's reach out to Peta and Unwnd. Was going to look at him more when I did isos.

-Ceph has been dropping in my reads over time. I did not like his positioning around Notty, nor the way he walked away from it. I also think that his comment wrt to unwnd being hesitant to engage with LLD was weird, but I cannot figure out if it was weird in a way that means he is scum with LLD like notty said or not.

-You seem to be more *present* this game then I remember from Lost, where I had you in my "kill for being forgettable* pile.

Speaking of my *kill for being forgettable pile* KingTroll, STD, and GreyIce are all rounding out that space where I am struggling to remember much of anything that they have done this game outside of KingTrolls initial entrace, STD's meme posts, and GreyIce yelling for LLD to make him a sandwich.

[Lukewarm]

I hit send, and scrolled back up to realize that the original thing that was asked of me was a tldr

[Lukewarm]

Um

TL;DR: I feel like I got really sidetracked by the early pressure, and I am hoping to do a reset when I do isos. Paranoid about LLD's thread manipulation. followed by various gut reads from staring at the player list.

[Save The Dragons]

luke

did you ever consider unwnd could be scum trying to push you

in case it was missed amongst all me memes

[Dunnstral]

Lady Lambdadelta

notscience

Lukewarm

petapan

Cephrir

Dunnstral

Bell

KingTroll

marcistar

unwnd

Taly

Save The Dragons

GreyICE

i do not have the capacity to offer more currently.
my earliest pings have been alleviated.
my scum pile is not confident. i feel better about my town pile.

i agree.
your current posting is to the detriment of how you are being perceived (by me).

these are my reads.

it is hard for me currently to verbalize myelf well.

lld has the capacity to be scum, as i respect her play. however i have liked her overall contributions thus far. this is vague. i apologize.
marci's 351 felt wrong to me. in part i do not believe it to be a marcilike (read: coached) post and i dislike what feels like potential tmi on kingtroll. her tone is similar to town games previously but i believe that this could be a reflection of general attitude, and am not putting as much weight into it.

Going to go out on a limb and say that Ydrasse is town this game. Also I like these posts.

[Cephrir]

ngl i wish i could vote 6 players at once right now

[Save The Dragons]

they are?

[unwnd]

Name them or LAL

[Cephrir]

god i knew someone was going to ask me that boring question

notty
luke
ydra (though im getting bored of this one)
dunnstral
STD
greyice

[Lukewarm]

luke

did you ever consider unwnd could be scum trying to push you

in case it was missed amongst all me memes

Yeah, but I landed on him more likely to be town for it. Hold on Ill grab a quote

[unwnd]

notty

Interested in hearing more about this one

[Cephrir]

it's a feeling i don't have an explanation right now

[Save The Dragons]

god i knew someone was going to ask me that boring question

notty
luke
ydra (though im getting bored of this one)
dunnstral
STD
greyice

your list is like just the consensus reads and like...notty

[Cephrir]

ok maybe i do a little i thought his response to pressure felt a little caught

[Cephrir]

god i knew someone was going to ask me that boring question

notty
luke
ydra (though im getting bored of this one)
dunnstral
STD
greyice

your list is like just the consensus reads and like...notty

and?

i didn't say i wanted to kill all of you, half of those are people i'd like to see under pressure so they'll do more

[Lukewarm]

During this interaction, I have been thinking that you seem more likely to be town for it. I don't think of myself as an easy target, especially after several other people had started voicing town reads on me. So I don't feel like I am a convenient place to go. You seem reading my posts really closely for possible alignment indicators, when if you were scum I would be a fairly easy person to scum read. Both because it is common, and because of your history of confidently declaring me town in our past games. IF you were just trying to get me to town read you, it seems like you could just imitate that. Given fact that in our last game you repped in an immediately declared a read on me.

-- and it got me to town read you (is how that thought ended in my head, but it apparently did not make it to the post)

[unwnd]

I felt like him having a fit wouldn't be something he could stomach as scum

He'd want to be considered playing well

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I never did make him that sandwich. He got depressed eith the 49ers losing lol

[Lukewarm]

Basically, at the time that unwnd started pushing me, I was being town read by quite a few people. And there is a history of me town reading him for town reading me.

So it seems like the easier path as scum would be to town read me there.

It seems *less* like that is a stance that makes sense now that more people are expressing doubt on me, where it seems easier for scum to see me as a target. But at the time that he started, it felt that way

[Save The Dragons]

i get you think unwnd is town but you seem to have no doubt that you'll be able to point to this game to teach unwnd a lesson

[Save The Dragons]

god i knew someone was going to ask me that boring question

notty
luke
ydra (though im getting bored of this one)
dunnstral
STD
greyice

your list is like just the consensus reads and like...notty

and?

i didn't say i wanted to kill all of you, half of those are people i'd like to see under pressure so they'll do more

ok vote for me see what happens